How do I improve my writing star rating at Helium?

United States
March 3, 2009 12:48am CST
I only have one star for writing at Helium. How can I improve that? I have a lot of articles (170+) and am working on adding more. What sort of star rating do you have on Helium? How do you keep it high?
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• United States
4 Jul 09
I am confused about writing star rating. I have rating star one of them for reading and rating. Do you know how the writing stars work? I think its how many you write.
• United States
5 Jul 09
I think I get it now not just how many you write but how high they are ranked. So that means they have to be good quaility also.
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@Canellita (12029)
• United States
8 Jul 09
When you write to an empty title you are automatically ranked number 1. If no one else is intersted in adding an article to that title you will remain number 1 for that article title even if your article is not that good. The more articles you write to empty titles the more articles you will have that are ranked number 1. The more articles ranked number 1 or at least in the top 10 the better your writing score will be. Look through the sections that say "writers wanted" regularly and post articles to the ones that have been sitting a while that no one seems interested in. This will help your writing score while you work on developing your writing skills. As your writing improves you can leapfrog your older articles and you can ask helium for a mentor to help you to improve your writing.
@iakulchen (615)
• Singapore
4 Mar 09
Currently I have 36 articles at Helium and 2 writing stars with a writing score of 82.76% Just going to give my own comments on the comments. Bladestorm's just stating the not-so-obvious rules regarding writing stars Nishdan gives plenty of wrong advice. It's general consensus on the Helium boards that you should be prepared to see your writing score drop when you write to writing contests. Whether an article is a marketplace title also has no relevance on writing stars(unless your article gets sold, in which case see Bladestorm's comment) Writing score also isn't affected by how often you write. I also note that Nishdan has no writing stars and claims to be the Sub-Steward for Online Jobs channel(on her Helium profile)at Helium despite not having a steward badge. She does have an impressive number of articles written on Helium though, a total of 858 articles. Regarding Ritchelle's point that "they like personal approaches even if it is something scientific you write about", my observations differ from his. I find that which article has better ratings depends rather more heavily on which one seems to be the one with better info. It might be just me and Ritcheelle having different interpretations of the same data though. Paid2write gives some very good advice. Regarding Heartbreaker's advice about writing to titles that already have several articles, I have to say that's a new approach. I tend more towards "find titles with submissions that are terrible and don't really address the title" so I tend to find those with 1 or 2 articles since it's highly unlikely that 38 out of 50 articles are terrible (And it would be a painful experience to for me to read through all of them if that were indeed the case :P) Not saying that I think it's a wrong approach though, it's just a matter of preferences. I do agree with him on using the Helium forums for critiquing. There's a section there devoted to critquing your articles and from personal experience, I can attest that they're quite detailed.
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• United States
4 Mar 09
You won the magic pencil, although I wish I could give more than one out on this discussion. I really appreciate everyone's comments about this topic. I guess it's a matter of trying different approaches out and seeing which method works best for me. I tend to pick topics I am interested in rather than looking at other criteria like how many people have written to the title. Usually my tastes are more obscure, so I don't always write to titles with a lot of responders, but maybe I should rethink that...or even the topics I choose. I will also check out the critique forums, I haven't done that at all. Thanks for your great comments!
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• Singapore
4 Mar 09
*Edit by way of post* When I said Bladestorm's just stating the not-so-obvious regarding writing stars, I meant that in a good way. Reading back through my comments, felt that it sort of conveyed that I was dismissing her comments. Could probably have worded that better.
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@Canellita (12029)
• United States
5 Jul 09
I am just starting to get the math and understand the ratios of how you can be in the top 25% for titles that have lots of articles if yours is good, but the point I want make is that if there is a competitive title I want to write to I don't even take the time to read the existing articles because it is a waste of my time. Even if I repeat some of what has been said I will say it differently and as long as my article is gramatically correct it will rise to at least the top 10 because there are so many articles on helium with horrendous grammar and spelling. I read one recently where a woman was talking about combing her hair and she spelled the word "come." With glaring errors like this I can not believe these articles are allowed to exist on helium. My lowest ranked article is something like 10 of 57. As long as I stay in the top 10 I usually don't care but I do plan to leapfrog this one eventually. It is a reflection on how writing helps in the healing process.
@paid2write (5201)
3 Mar 09
It took me a long time to get my first star, but now I have 3 writing stars and I have maintained them for several months. I got my third star by leapfrogging older articles, and by adding a better article to titles that have only two poor quality articles. (This is a bit of a risk because being rated 2 out of 3 moves it out of the top 25% bracket). When I do a leapfrog I always rework the opening paragraph to make it more catchy, and find other ways to improve the article. If the leapfrog is accepted the article rises in the ratings and my score increases.
• United States
4 Mar 09
I think that I probably need to do this. I have never leapfrogged an article, and maybe it's time to start. When you have people rate articles, you always take the chance that they don't read the entire article. If you have a good opening paragraph, at least that's going in your favor. I tend to be more serious, and maybe I need to jazz things up. Thanks for your suggestions!!
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3 Mar 09
Apart from writing quality articles I would suggest writing to titles that have mnay articles. Just think if you write to an title that has only 4 articles you need to be number one to get in the top 25% whereas if you write to a title that has 50 articles or 100 articles you only need to be in the top 12 or top 25 respectively. This is what I do when I want to improve my writing score near the end of the month. You could also go onto the helium forum and ask for a critique of your article and perhaps a mentor could suggest some ways to improve. Another idea is to leapfrog your articles, perhaps add more ideas and content and see if it helps. Look at the articles rated above you and see what angle and ideas they possess. I have been quite lucky with my stars I have had a bonus star since I have been at helium but I notice the more articles I write the more my writing score decreases and puts me at risk of losing my bonus star.
• United States
4 Mar 09
I probably do need to write to more articles that have more responders. I like to write to art titles, and frequently there will only be a few of us writing. A couple of days ago, I wrote a longish article comparing two artistic movements, and got the bottom rating. I spent hours researching and writing the article, but it was very serious and long. My score really dropped because there were only two articles, and mine is at the bottom. It's discouraging, but I also need to realize that this is not an audience that is discerning when it comes to art or even wants to read a long article. I think I need to shorten things up, simplify, and make things snappier. What do you think? Thanks for your advice. I am taking it to heart.
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@Canellita (12029)
• United States
5 Jul 09
Scheng1 has been telling me the same thing about articles and rating but now I am finally beginning to understand how the percentages work.
• United States
3 Mar 09
First off, nice amount of articles. Second, there are several reasons why you might not be getting writing stars, here are the most likely: 1. Make sure all your articles rate highly on Helium. Only articles that rate above the 75th percentile mark count for stars. If a lot of your articles are lower than that, you won't get many stars. 2. Creative writing articles do NOT count for stars, so if a lot of your articles are in creative writing, they don't count sadly. 3. Articles bought by publishers in the marketplace do NOT count for stars either. This is why I only have 1 star as well, I have written a lot of articles but most were sold on the marketplace. Though I really don't care about stars that much, so I don't bother trying to keep it high.
• United States
4 Mar 09
Congratulations on selling to the Marketplace. That says more to me than a high rating, as people are putting money behind their choice! One thing I realized is that I like to write to art history titles, and these have few articles. For some there are only two, so if I don't get the top spot, that really hurts me. I appreciate the advice!
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@Ritchelle (3790)
• Philippines
3 Mar 09
i became a member there last february 4 and before they started the launching of country and language specific sites about last week (which terribly affected my logging in here in the philippines) i actually got 2 writing stars there already and became a premium writer twice already. am from the philippines so english is just my second language. i think i didn't get it quite right the first few days until i noticed that they like personal approaches even if it is something scientific you're writing about. also, it helps to exhaust yourself in proofreading everything. mistakes come up in one form or another. last one itsy bitsy bit of help read your article aloud beofre you submit it. sometimes a sentence or two would just sound totally out of sync. this will pave the way to a revision of a sentence or two that can totally change how the article comes across. this is also where the article's personal character sprouts. this is where you would rather hear a word repeated thrice and would tastefully insert three periods for effect. try it.
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• United States
4 Mar 09
I used to be an editor, so I don't think grammar is my problem, but I have wondered about the personal touch myself. When I write very detailed (sometimes long) articles on art history or investing, they seem to do less well than things I write off the top of my head (opinion pieces). The audience for Helium is an unusual bunch. It seems clear that certain people do a lot of research while others just write the first thing that comes into their head. Maybe I need to punch my writing up. Make it snappier. Thanks for your opinion, and good luck writing.
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@nishdan01 (3051)
• Singapore
3 Mar 09
To get more writing stars, you must write frequently. You must write more articles and the more articles you have, it must be highly rated. Other things to do: -Write to competetive titles. - Write to marketplace titles. - Take part in contests. If you win, your writing star score improves dramatically. - Write regularly. If you do not write for a month, the writing score drops and your stars vanish too. So if you are determined to get more writing stars, write regularly.
• United States
4 Mar 09
I don't think it's the number of articles I have (although I am trying to reach 300). In fact, the more articles I write, the more my star rating seems to shrink. I noticed that there are some folks who only have 5 or 6 articles, and if they are all rated well, they can have a much higher score. I also worry that people may not take the time to read my articles, which may tend toward the longish side because I like to write about art history, travel, and investing. None of those topics can be written in bullet points easily, although I do try and be concise. Maybe I need to focus on punchier opening paragraphs, so that even if they don't read the whole article, they are left with a favorable impression? What do you think? I see you have a lot of articles. What topics do you write to? Thanks for your response. Good luck with your writing.
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@Canellita (12029)
• United States
5 Mar 09
Have you looked at the help pages on Helium? I just signed up and I seem to remember something about rating other people? I don't know; I am still figuring it all out.
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• United States
5 Mar 09
Good suggestion, I will go over and check the help pages out.
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@Canellita (12029)
• United States
2 Jul 09
How are your articles ranked individually? Are they in the top 5? 10? What percentage is in competitive titles? Creative writing? It seems like you can up your writing score by writing to empty titles, at least that is what seems to be working for me. I am ranked 1 of 1 in several titles and most of my other titles have fewer than 20 articles posted. I noticed a slight drop in my writing score after my last post to a competitive title as well.
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@Canellita (12029)
• United States
2 Jul 09
After posting another empty title article my writing score just went up to 92.54%. I have 37% of articles in competitive titles at the moment. And I just got my third writing star! (You're the first to know! Besides me, that is, lol.)
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