Imaginary Blast from the PAST!
@redyellowblackdog (10629)
United States
March 9, 2009 10:38am CST
Yes, it is true.
During the civil rights struggles and riots of the 1960's, you never saw a headline like the following:
LBJ appeals to moderate members of the KKK and to compassionate bigots everywhere to be reasonable!
Yet, today, we have a comparable appeal from the current President of the U.S.A.! Read this link.
http://www.reuters.com/article/featuredCrisis/idUSISL492661
I say the current President's remarks are just as ridiculous as the imaginary remarks above attributed LBJ.
What do you say?
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
9 Mar 09
What with the bailouts, the petty gifts to the UK, and now this, yes, we have our proof 0bama was not ready for the big leagues.
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@lilnono (228)
• United States
9 Mar 09
If asking bigots to be reasonable is so stupid why do we have a holiday honoring Dr. Martin Luther King. How did we go from being a country where women were not allowed to vote to being a country with a woman as the Secretary of State. Any human being who does not have a serious mental illness is capable of being reasonable and compassionate. If evil people were not capable of changing their ways the entire world would be living under feudalism.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
9 Mar 09
Bigots never did willingly become reasonable. I suggest the police baton applied often to the right people in combination with years in prison for the more violent of the bigots set an example that other bigots did not want to experience. That more than anything else is what achieved civil rights.
We have a holiday honoring Dr. King because he was smart enough to keep one side in check as to violence so the forces of the law could do their work on the violent lawless side. If Dr. King had not kept the blacks mostly non violent, the nation would have supported keeping blacks down and denying them their rights. That's why we have a holiday honoring Dr. King. He made civil rights possible by helping to keep blacks non violent so the forces of bigotry within law enforcement itself had no excuse but to side with the blacks in their struggle for the law to be obeyed that gave blacks equal rights.
Anyone who thinks non violence by itself ever achieved anything does not understand how the world works.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
10 Mar 09
lilnono,
If you read closely, you will see we mostly agree. The only thing I disagree with that you have said or implied is that reason won the civil rights battle. I maintain it took intelligent non violence by the right people at the right time combined with the official threat of violence and on occaision, actual violence, against law breakers. The civil rights advocates were not breaking the law. Those opposed were. Law enforcement and the threat of force came to side with civil rights, not the bigots. The bigots lost. This is reality. I was alive at the time.
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@lilnono (228)
• United States
10 Mar 09
I understand that you don't like Obama but that doesn't change reality. Someone needs to start paying a lot more attention to PBS during black history month. A large part of the civil rights movement consisted of black people going to lunch counters and demanding service. How is that not asking bigots to be reasonable? Can you point me to some old footage of white people being attacked by the police during the civil right movement? I'm not saying it doesn't exist I just really want to see it. Any human with a functioning brain has the capacity to be reasonable. No amount of political opinion can change that. I know a lot of real life people who were active racist in their youths who grew up to perfectly well adjusted Americans who learned how to accept everybody. No one intentionally sets out to be evil. No matter how heinous a person's actions may be. Everyone who has ever done anything though themselves to be in the right at the time that they did it. People who do bad things do so because they have been given bad information and believe in things that are not true. If you can prove the truth to people you can get them to change their minds. The civil right movement worked because the people who were involved in it proved by their nonviolent actions that the stereotypes that many bigots believed about them were not true. Why do you think they call it prejudice? With all the segregation going on most of the people who thought that they hated black people had never even met a black person. Once black people got in their faces without doing any of the things the bigots expected they had no choice but to see the truth.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
10 Mar 09
Hello Red,
I have long been 'on the record' about how incredibly dangerous I believe it is to treat Afhanistan like any other terrain on the planet, from a military strategy perspective. As I have often pointed out, the Afghani mountain range is the only place on the planet where even Alexander the Great was defeated by a defending army.
Similarly, I have expressed with both outrage and incredible fear (for our troops) how incredibly lame-brained I believe it to be to try to relocate the established, infrastructure-rich Iraqi front, to the backward, zero infrastructure wild-west, opium growing, totally unforgiving mountainous region of Afghanistan.
"Moderate Taliban"??? Come on! Do the Democrats forget that it was they who called upon the world to quash the Taliban because of how violently oppressive they were? How abusive and repressive they were to women??? Now Obama is going to seek out the "moderate" among them??? Here is where Obama's arrogance and ignorance meld into one. There is no such thing as a moderate among an extremist movement. The best one could hope for is a less extreme extremist, and what are the realistic chances that the less extreme of the extremists is actually in a position of power among a group of extremists???????
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
10 Mar 09
Thank you for your comment in response number 2. Heartfelt, persuasive and convincing.
In the response above you mention the opium growing. This has probably a major impact as to what is happening. The Taliban at one time were actually ending the opium production. Many wonder how much this affected the decision to invade Afganistan and chase the Taliban out.
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@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
9 Mar 09
Not only are his remarks ridiculous and delusional... they are also indicative of his inexperience and naivety.
This is why you don't put a community organizer into the oval office. This clown has no idea what he is doing. He has no clue about national security, diplomacy, or dealing with our enemies.
He is an appeaser, much as Carter was... and Carter's policies are what led us to this point in the first place.
Not only is he alienating our allies, he is demonstrating that he is of a pro-terrorist mindset.
Neville Chamberlain comes to mind here.
The 0bamunist is just as clueless and as wrong as he was.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
9 Mar 09
I actually heard on the news today that someone said 0bama has a hard time forcing himself to even try to get interested in foreign affairs. Oh... no... here we go again.
@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
10 Mar 09
Yet Palin was dissed when she was percieved to be weak in foreign policy experience.
If Palin was not eligible to be vice president based on that criteria, then by what stretch of the imagination is this clueless moron eligible to be president... especially given the fact that Palin had more executive experience of ANY of the candidates?
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
10 Mar 09
Governor Palin is an amazing woman. Her treatment at the word processors of the media and liberal pundits surely must have given many women pause for concern.





