I raised you better then that

@TLChimes (4822)
United States
March 15, 2009 9:00pm CST
Today's kids think it's the victims fault if she's beaten. Young parents are killing their children. Older folks are stealing millions from honest people and charities. What lessons are getting lost as the world changes? What is the number one thing you think kids need to learn to become morally balanced adults? And is it a parents fault if that lesson isn't learned. My grandfather was a beat it into the child kind of guy, that turned his child into a passive parent who didn't disapline. How are the right lessons taught to the kids?
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@mummymo (23706)
16 Mar 09
Different Strokes for Different Folks I guess here Chimes - I don't think I am qualified to say what would work for everyone but I can tell you what I believe. I am a strict parent in a lot of ways, I believe that honesty and respect is very important and I also believe I am here to be a mother to my children not a best friend, I ma here to make my childrens lives the best they can be - not the easiest! Having said that I do believe it works both ways, our children deserve honesty and respect too - despite the fact that I am a strict Mum my kids can talk to me about ANYTHING and know I will listen and try to help, they are also very loving and affectionate. I don't think you can always blame parents but I do know that beating a child (apart from being reprehensible) will not work, neither will apathy and lack of interest. Sometimes a parent will do everything they possibly can and a child will 'go wrong' other times a parent who has done nothing will raise end up with a very successful and grounded child. All we can do is our best and hope and pray it is enough - I just wish every parent was as interested in their children as they should be! xxx
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@mummymo (23706)
16 Mar 09
Well apart from the fact that I have smacked my kids on the bottom in extreme circumstances I agree with all you hav said - now isn't that a surprise! xxx
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@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
16 Mar 09
*faints in shock* We agree? Wow, who woulda thunk it? A bottom pop isn't abuse or even "hitting" And I am by no means that passive. I'm sure in the seventeen years Josh has been on the earth he got a bottom smack. Like when he really tried to play in a busy road.
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@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
16 Mar 09
Yeppers! That's my view. I tell my kids I'm a mean mom because I love them. They either roll their eyes or laugh because they know I'm right. I'm strict but fair and I've never felt that I needed to hit to make my point. I work with someone for the youngest two that helps me help them. She but it this way...In order for the kids to be good adults then they need to know how to problem solve but it is our job to give them the tools. My grandfather has good kids because his wife was a good mom. My mother has a 50/50 success rate and that's because she had my father to help things go as they should. I treat them (my kids) as I would want to be treated... with steady love, respect, and interest in who they are.
@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
17 Mar 09
I think loving ways and a loving attitude is what is required...right across the board. It seems it's hard to achieve even within the family unit so maybe it will never happen.
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@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
17 Mar 09
But we keep trying even when we aren't sure we can get a third of the table to play nice with another third. It's what we do as parents. Forget world peace, I'd love Home peace.
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16 Mar 09
Hi TLChimes, You don't have to beat your children to make them a better parents themself, you can discipline them and by teaching them respect, right from wrong and above all to love them. Kids today don't get that as the parents don't have patients with them and shouts at them or swear, in turn the kids don't respct their parents and its just goes on from there, my mum would just gives us those looks and we would freeze and behave ourselves, she brought six of us up and we all did alright, even though we were all grown up and if we had to say something that my mum didn't approve of she would just give us that look. Sadly my mum has passed and we thanked her for bringin us up alone as my father passed when I was very young, he was strict with us as well but he didn't beat us up. Kids get it too easy today. Tamara
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@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
16 Mar 09
I agree.... I don't have to hit my kids. They listen because of respect, love, stability, and known rules. When they step to the left a bit, the punishment fits the crime. People don't need to be so harsh.
@1rickyme (146)
• India
16 Mar 09
That's a good discussion to start because today we can see lot of children are attracted to words the crime and easy money they don't have respect to words the elders and they don't care about the country so what i suggest is that from the childhood days they need to train their kids for making the better society.
@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
16 Mar 09
training them young to be good people is the key. But then there are some kids who just don't want to do the right things because wrong is easier and makes more money.
• United States
16 Mar 09
That's a very good question. It's one we speak about every day in education, because there is a disagreement as to if moral and ethics should be taught in school on top of what parents teach their children. I'm very much for moral/ethic education within school because I think that today's children need to be exposed to it and take it to heart. I'm not sure though if I'd say that today's kids truly believe it is the victims fault, or that we truly have all young parents killing children or even older people stealing more. I think it's that we have much more media coverage then we did say 100 years ago. Man, if we go with most culture teachings or even spiritual teachings have become corrupt at some point or another in their own culture, etc. It's not that I suscribe to men being born evil (I'm not much a believer on original sin). I do think though that men (meaning mankind here) can learn evil, corruption, etc. In the case of our children, we need to help them develop their empathy which will help them to develop their compassion. I do think to some degree the parents do need to be held accountable. We are responsible for our children until they tern 18 years old by law, but we're always a parent and they are always our child. Yes, children have free will and at some point need to be held accountable for their actions, but allowing parents to continue to raise a child in a manner in which the child is being a bully, or such then someone needs to hold the parent accountable. I can recall once seeing a video of a parent who was egging her two children to fight. The children were little too and she was there going "Go on now, fight, Pull her hair. Don't be a baby". This is dramatic but we know that there are parents out there who encourage poor behavior in their children by not accepting, or making light of situations. I think if we started offering parenting classs to parents to be and new parents we might be able to change the trend in society. It will take some time though. There are, as you said, a lot of people set in their ways. Namaste-Anora
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@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
16 Mar 09
I remember that video. I can't imagine those kids grew up all that well balanced. I think there are several core things missing from schools that there was once taught even if not as a class but through how things were done. I went outside the school and found a class for the boys that taught manners, human ethics, community care, and formal dance. It was twice a week for a school year as well one Saturday of community volunteering a month. I would love a class like that to be taught in school. Of course we don't even have music or PE here.