Empty nest -who is right?

@mansha (6298)
India
March 17, 2009 4:58pm CST
Recently we had a party and my husband his boss started a friendy discussion on how our parents need us most in old age and we are not physically there to take care of them. His boss gave a totally different point of view that though yes kids do move away but with advent of latest technologies you have more access to your parents then before and you are just either a call away and you can ensure even from distant place that someone reaches them in time even if you can not. What is your take on this?
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• United States
17 Mar 09
Honestly I think that they are both right. With technology today you can even see your older parents everyday. But there is nothing better than being next to them.
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@mansha (6298)
• India
17 Mar 09
Yes I agree to some extent but what if moving away is the only option liek people havign jobs abroad or in arrmed forces.
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• United States
17 Mar 09
Then send money home to them and talk to them on the phone. I live 8 hours from my mom and I have a sister that lives 34 hours from her, the closest family member to her is still an hour away. (all by car). If your aging parents need care then the siblings should get together and pay for the care if it can not be done by the family.
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@cream97 (29085)
• United States
17 Mar 09
Hi, mansha! Yes, this is true! And the phone, email and wireless technologies make this possible. But, if the elder is too sick and out to use these items, then it means nothing to have them. If they can't make it to the phone in time, then they can pass out and no one will know. An medical alert device for elders or someone that can't get up to call for help is another option to consider. A nurse may have the device at home and can come to the attention of this person. They will then contact family and friends that can be notifed about this persons condition.
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@mansha (6298)
• India
17 Mar 09
Yes I agree even though his boss was right but nothing beatsd physical presence of the loved ones, I feel with changing times and as jobs demand kids to move away from their small towns, onus is on parents to understand and move in either closer to or with the kids so that they can be looked after other option remaisn then is to go to old age home which is a sad thing but at times necessary.
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@cream97 (29085)
• United States
17 Mar 09
Yes, being there, is totally different, from not being, able to be there. A person may not make it in time to save or help their elderly loved one..
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@Ithink (10106)
• United States
18 Mar 09
I think they are both basically right. With todays technology we can check up and talk to our parents and other people for that matter. It also depends on the parents if they need the help or not and how often. We get wood for my parents and are close enough that if we got a call we could be there within 20 minutes or less. I know that seems like a long time if something is wrong but I don't think most people live right next door to their parents for the most part. In the end I think that we love our parents and are there for them when they need us or even just want to talk to us. We all move out (well most of us) and make our own lives. It doesn't mean that we aren't there for our parents.
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@mansha (6298)
• India
19 Mar 09
Yes you just said it, when we move away, it never necessarily means we are not there for our parents when they need us and I think that is the bottom line.
@Ithink (10106)
• United States
20 Mar 09
Thank you for BR. ? This got me thinking, that as I get older, do I want to have my kids basically end their lives to take care of me and I have to say no. We raise them to get on their own and make their own way in life and I would feel guilty expecting them to drop their live to take care of mine. Anyways thanks again.
@Ithink (10106)
• United States
20 Mar 09
Hmm this board changed my heart to a ? mark .. lol
@sanuanu (11235)
• India
18 Mar 09
I have a little live experience of it. It has happened two years earlier. My uncle lives in a metropolitan city "Mumbai". He has a son and two daughters. All of them are married. The daughters of course moved along with their husbands. The son got married just then and moved to the new city Pune which is only 3 hours away from Mumbai. Now, my uncle and aunt were alone at their house. Although their son could manage to come home every weekends and could talk to them every now and then, they looked to me as a sad parents. When I went their, my aunt was all broken up. They wanted their son to live in their own house but the son didn't want to live with them. He has the same excuse that "If I can come every weekend and you can tlk to me every day then what is the need for me to come live with you guys?". I didn't see them happy at all!
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@mansha (6298)
• India
18 Mar 09
Sounds like my inlaws too, but you see parents have to let go of their kids at some point if they want them to behave like adults and make something f their life too. Many states like Bihar has no lucrative oppurtunities for the youth so people do have to move out.
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@mansha (6298)
• India
9 Sep 09
why not move in with them for few days and see if youcan adjust to their routine
@sanuanu (11235)
• India
19 Mar 09
Very true and that is sad too but the best thing is that they always leave their wife with their parents. That is the best way of doing it. You need to go that is alrigt but we need someone here who can take care of us!
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@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
18 Mar 09
The boss was both right and wrong. Right because when the kids are in the distant places surely if somebody does the job the purpose is served but the thing is that old parents need the physical presence of their children than the precious 'nectar'.His version is too materialistic and mechanical.
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@mansha (6298)
• India
19 Mar 09
Yes but isn't world is getting more materialistic day by day and his thing as far as I understood was that if a kid has to move out neither the parnets nor the kid should feel the guilt but make the best of situation with help of technology.
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@vu3nnn (85)
• India
18 Mar 09
Your husband is right. Your mother has taken the pain to carry you in her womb for ten months, suffered delivery pangs, took care of you when you were an infant, endured your bratty behavior as a kid, probably scarified a lot to raise you up to what you are.... and now when they are old and really need you, you are not around!
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@mansha (6298)
• India
19 Mar 09
yes but if my job is as such that I can not be there do they have a right to stop me from going. My brother in law went to Banglore to work almost five years back but he was called bakc to saty with his parents after a year. In Bihar, India there is no industry , no development and no lucrative oppurtunities too. He kept working ther for meagre sum of salary and then got married had two kids but was still partially dependent on the parents to take care of his family. He now had to move away because he got another excellent job but away from them in a new city. He is growing old too every year, he also has to raise his family and on his salary he can not make a good life for his own kids. Now if someone tells him to go back and take care of parents, do you think that is justified?
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
18 Mar 09
Being empty nesters, even though our sons can email us, and telephone us, we would want them to come over and visit or bring something over for supper because my husband is disabled and I do not drive. I miss seeing my granddaughter and since my sons both work, the only time we can have over here is on the weekends. So an email or a phone call or having someone else come over in place if something goes wrong is not the same. We're rather have them here physically at least once every two weeks.
@mansha (6298)
• India
19 Mar 09
Yes but if he is busy with his own life and has work on weekends as he also must be getting only weekends to do n number of tasks will it be fair of you to ask him to come and visit every week? May be moving closer to where they stay should be an option for you to consider, wont that be a much better option, I am just asking as everyone has a busy schedule and with the day gone in office it is difficult managing everything in the week itself sometimes.Do let me know your opinion, I ma not trying to get personal here.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
20 Mar 09
We want to stay in our own house. And if we move there would be changing banks, etc. I do wish that they could see us at least once a month. The only time we keep in touch is by facebook and by email and phone. And they will have to come and fix up our basement because when the weather gets warmer, we will be getting a contractor in to build a ramp and my husband is looking for a scooter chair. And I do miss seeing my granddaughter.
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@cher913 (25781)
• Canada
18 Mar 09
i have to agree with both of them but there is nothing like the personal touch when it comes to people. i find because my dad just passed away, my mom is sort of lost, so what would you do in a case like that?
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@sid556 (30953)
• United States
18 Mar 09
i'm not convinced that he is 100% right on that. it all depends on the parents and if they have the latest technology and use it. I don't know really. I'm 52... just last year, I spent months caring for my mom who even tho she had the phone was not able to communicate well with it. 3 of my 4 girls are grown and moved on...sort of...they always keep bouncing back which I don't mind at all. Still...it is hard for me to imagine them taking care of me altho I know they would. Over the internet?...nope....I have internet and they do not.
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@mansha (6298)
• India
18 Mar 09
yes parents do get hassled at times with new technology but that alsois true if your kids have a job that demands him to move in a different city then may be as a parent you should not emotionally blackmail the kids too.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
18 Mar 09
While I do communicate with my mom every day, either in email, chat or over the phone...it's not the same as being there. My parents are 1,000 miles away and it sometimes makes me miss them more when I hear their voices on the phone. I'm glad that my sisters and brother are nearby to help them when they need it.
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@mansha (6298)
• India
19 Mar 09
Yes I know that we stay awayy from my hubby's parents too and recently his brother also moved out so he talks to them daily and feels really bad about leaving them alone but they refuse to move in with us and are probably scared that it will be a hassle for me and we shall not get along that well though it would not be any problem for me though.
@lynnemg (4529)
• United States
18 Mar 09
Yes, technology can help us to be closer to our parents in some ways, but not as much as actually living near them. Sure, I can call my parents, and I could even call a friend or relative to go over there if something happened, but it is not the same as if I were right there and able to go myself. I may be able to call their local emergency number, but I would not be able to physically be there to help them, which I do think is important. Regardless of how much easier it is to get help to them, if I am not there, they are not going to feel the sae as they would if I were at there side.
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@mansha (6298)
• India
18 Mar 09
Yes though physical presence is too important but with changing times, expectations change and if a child has to make something of his life he has to move away at times. May be then it takes parents t understand the situation and probably move closer to the kid.
@emilie2300 (1882)
• United States
18 Mar 09
I don't thimk its the same even though there is tecnology its not the same we still need to be there for them as they will be there for us if something should happen. Also they were there for us as we were growing up.
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@mansha (6298)
• India
19 Mar 09
Yes and we are there for our kids too, but will you expect your kids to give up everything and theri dreams to move back in with you in future? Or will you let them go and build their own nests somewhere else?
• United States
21 Mar 09
I think if they moved out and wanted to come back in the future I would definetly let them.
@lingzi (567)
• China
18 Mar 09
hi,mansha, when our parents get older enough, call,email,or other modern product will be nothing for them . these advanced product can not lustrate loneliness from them. they need us to touch their hands or look at their eyes . call ,email can not instead of relation.
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@mansha (6298)
• India
19 Mar 09
Yes but at times technology is abest substitute if you can not be there for them , times are as such that jobs can take you anywhere in the world.
18 Mar 09
given a choice between being physically there, but spiritually absent and spiritually there, but physically absent.. I would opt for the second. our aging parents need our love more than our practical help most of the time. so if we cannot be there for them in real-time, we can ensure that they feel assured of our love and our caring for them at all times thru these technological means mentioned by that boss. physical care can be provided by any professional care agency thru homecare services, but not love.
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@mansha (6298)
• India
19 Mar 09
Yes how right you are and love is something that can go out too if going gets difficult with too much hysical closeness too.
@JoyfulOne (6231)
• United States
18 Mar 09
I'd have to agree that in part, both views are totally valid. Now that I'm older and can't do all the things I used to do, I'd be totally lost without my youngest daughter and her family to help me with things. My other daughter and family, lives around a 3 hour drive away, and while I do miss her physical presence, I realize she has her own family and responsibilities. I don't get to see her, or her family, that often, so they got me a cell phone that's listed on their family plan, and with their area code. (Which is really VERY handy because it doesn't cost a dime and it would be long distance charges otherwise!) Since the cell phone, we now are able to keep in touch as she calls each day, or every other day if she's extremely busy. Not all elders *need* to have a child close by, unless it's for health reasons. A talk on the phone is just as wonderful and still lets a parent and child keep connected, no matter what their age or distance. Computers are good, but only if the elder is willing to learn some new technology along the way :-)
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@mansha (6298)
• India
18 Mar 09
Very mature view you have that yes your daughter has her own family and responsibilities very few parents seem to see it that way.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Sep 09
hi mansha yes I see both sides and yes technology does help also it pays tohave someone who is close to the parents to' help in case the grown kids cannot get there in time. sometimes'things can not be done over the phone and require a physical presence of' some one who can help.
@bunnybon7 (50970)
• Holiday, Florida
9 Sep 09
well yes you can keep in contact through pc and phone which is what my other kids do with me. but iam very fortunate that my youngest took care of me for a while when i first became ill then disabled and now my oldest has me living with him to help us both. i've never really had to deal with no kids living with me or me living with one of them. but then i have 5. and only one i can not stand to live with
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@zhuhuifen46 (3483)
• China
10 Sep 09
Nowadays, most people prefer to live away from their parents. It is understandable, and the elderly will standby to support whenever there is the need. To show proper care for the parents, a regular call is minimum, and if possible scheduled visit is appreciated. As long as we keep the other in heart, life goes on as well.