I am confused!

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@Theresaaiza (10528)
Australia
March 18, 2009 3:19am CST
If the plural of man is men and of woman is women How come?Human can't be humen?
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26 responses
@psyche49f (2504)
• Philippines
20 Mar 09
It's because language is so unique and so rich you can't put it in a box and make rules for everyone to follow. It's a product of a semantic evolution and it's too late to question it now. We just have to learn the rules, however irregular and intriguing they are...after all, learning a language can never be perfected unless one uses it in real life situations or in very practical terms. Meanwhile, it would be crazy to ask why the plural of ox is oxen, while fox is foxes, and so on. We just have to live with it however crazy they may sound. But this discussion is good because it has never been an issue to me until you discussed it. Nice day...
@Theresaaiza (10528)
• Australia
24 Mar 09
Yeah, so right. There are more crazy stuffs out there which English can offer. You are right, you can't put it in a box.
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@mysdianait (65054)
• Italy
18 Mar 09
Why would it have to be 'humen' when 'huwomen' would be so much more descriptive of the species?
@Theresaaiza (10528)
• Australia
19 Mar 09
I'm so happy I already knew you were a girl. Otherwise I would have gotten confused as to why you keep insisting on the female gender! LOL
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@mysdianait (65054)
• Italy
19 Mar 09
Hahaha An 'old' girl Theresa just to put you completely in the picture!
@Theresaaiza (10528)
• Australia
20 Mar 09
Crap, senility has no cure. And Alzheimer's is irreversible. What sort of disease should I resort to when I'll get old?
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@James72 (26829)
• Australia
18 Mar 09
Because it implies more than one and it would be more sexist than just the "man" at the end of it! Bra burning feminists from the late 60's probably had something to do with it I reckon. Us guys may have had to give up on the men part at the time, but we at least managed to keep man there for now. We should change it to "Hupersons" just to be on the safe side in the future though. And for the record, yes, I do think that women should be allowed to drive tractors.
@Theresaaiza (10528)
• Australia
18 Mar 09
My grandmother had osteoporosis when she was driving the tractor, and nobody seemed to mind. Despite that, she was still HUMAN and not HUPERSON! How about Humus? What could be it's gender?
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@James72 (26829)
• Australia
18 Mar 09
What's the gender of humus? Well, seeing as it's decomposed animal and vegetable matter found in soil, it's arguably pretty close to BS in an indirect sense; so I'd have to say that humus is male! But then again, humus is also a master at water retention, so maybe it's female???
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@mysdianait (65054)
• Italy
18 Mar 09
Why change ot to 'hupersons'? What is wrong with 'huperdaughters'? Why leave the women out of everything???
@victorywp (3526)
• Malaysia
18 Mar 09
alright, please let me try to answer this difficult english. LOL! maybe here's how:- 1) man is for male (plural is men) 2) woman is for female (plural is women) 3) human is for either one or both (so the word "human" includes both singular & plural) can you accept my explanation? LOL! now, please answer this question of mine below, i am very confused... LOL! if horrific means to make horrible, why terrific doesn't mean to make terrible?
@zahfran (851)
• Singapore
19 Mar 09
haha.. what a question.. Some terrific things are actually terrible. Anyway, what is this? Some kind of English debate. haha..
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@Theresaaiza (10528)
• Australia
19 Mar 09
Leave the debate to the senate! We're just having so much fun! Hmmm....So if 'human' represents both male and female, why didn't they make it, HUMALE? HOrrific vs. terrific? Well here's how: horrible, horrify, horrific. Terrible, terrify, terrific terrorist! So here: if worth and price are the same, why is worthless different from priceless?
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@victorywp (3526)
• Malaysia
19 Mar 09
please allow me to try to answer this difficult english again. LOL! maybe here's how:- 1) worth have the same meaning with price 2) 'less' at the back of words means 'no', 'not', 'nothing' 3) worth + less = not worth (negative meaning, because it doesn't worth for any amount) 4) price + less = no price (positive meaning, because it doesn't have a limit for any amount) LOL! now, if i'm asking the same question of yours but comparing the word 'value' & 'price'. value has the same meaning with price, but why valueless has a contrast meaning with priceless? LOL!
@kissieme (777)
• Philippines
18 Mar 09
lol theresa, where are all these ideas coming from? well, I think there isn't much pattern when it comes to singular and plural nouns. It's confusing for most people but since we learned all of these from childhood we get to use them without thinking much of how they had come up those words. But the most important thing to to know and learn about is the grammar and it's rules which is kinda hard to stick to sometimes when you just wanted to do pidgin English hee hee kidding... speak Taglish please wahahaha
@Theresaaiza (10528)
• Australia
18 Mar 09
Thanks for the answer "u", so happy "me". Friends "us"? Hahaha..... I got this idea from the deepest core (which isn't too deep) of my brain!
@kissieme (777)
• Philippines
19 Mar 09
hahaha. me so happy, too... so u, me, all happy... good huh? hugs sis...
@Theresaaiza (10528)
• Australia
20 Mar 09
Oh yeah, hugs....mmmmmmmmm.....and Mwah! Tsup tsup! Ew.
@savypat (20245)
• United States
18 Mar 09
Join the club, that is why English is such a difficult language, then there are all those words spelled differently with different meanings but pronounced the same. Like (there), meaning place, I am going there. And (their) meaning belonging to someone, I am their cousin. Enjoy
@savypat (20245)
• United States
18 Mar 09
I forgot the other (there) meaning to be. There are so many different meanings.
@Theresaaiza (10528)
• Australia
18 Mar 09
Uuuugh...I'm so nauseous I'm turning PAIL!...er....PALE! English isn't FARE! er....fair.
@savypat (20245)
• United States
18 Mar 09
What a fun discussion
@mansha (6301)
• India
20 Mar 09
well English is a funny language as "put" is different from "but" "do " is different from "go". If you see it that way may bepeople were not thinking when they were inventing this language. while to answer your question human has to be humane first in a group to ever think of them calling humen insteadof humans. That definately they are never and so may be thats the most reasonable answer to your question.
@Theresaaiza (10528)
• Australia
20 Mar 09
Yes, we have to be humane to make lesser mistakes but then mistakes are part of being human too! :-D
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@mansha (6301)
• India
20 Mar 09
What a paradox it is being a human that is.
@Theresaaiza (10528)
• Australia
23 Mar 09
isn't it ironic? :-D
@Loverbear (4928)
• United States
19 Mar 09
I never figured that out either. It's like the plural of sheep is sheep. My favorite that I came up with years ago is shouldn't the plural of linguists be linguine?
@Theresaaiza (10528)
• Australia
20 Mar 09
English knows so much about bending rules than adhering to them so if linguists should be linguine, then make sheeps lambchops!
@Loverbear (4928)
• United States
20 Mar 09
Yum! With those little pants on with a side of garlic roasted potatoes, Asparagus, freshly made bread sticks, mint jelly and a huge slice of cheese cake for dessert! I just gained fifteen pounds thinking about it! Another odd thought...you buy a cord of wood, but it can't play a chord of music! Sorry about that, I just went through a brain storming session for one of my classes in college and my brain is FRIED big time.
@Theresaaiza (10528)
• Australia
20 Mar 09
Weird language, I agree. But if you turn the wood into a piano or guitar, I believe we could have that task done. :-D I'm craving for a steak.
@ANTIQUELADY (36468)
• United States
18 Mar 09
maybe they are maggots.
@Theresaaiza (10528)
• Australia
20 Mar 09
Do you want a BR for this?
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@ANTIQUELADY (36468)
• United States
20 Mar 09
i don't want anything from you. i have deleted u from my friends so would appreciate u not sending me anything else. thank you.
@Theresaaiza (10528)
• Australia
20 Mar 09
Wait, if the "maggot freak" thing I said offended you, I'm sorry. It was really just a joke. It wasn't meant to offend you, alright? I didn't know you were that sensitive. And BR means BEST Response. I really checked and found out you did delete me as a friend. I respect your decision. Just for the record, I was really just kidding.
@Ritchelle (3795)
• Philippines
18 Mar 09
somebody likes the letter s so much that he insisted that if it can't be mans and womans at least make it humans. ;)
@Theresaaiza (10528)
• Australia
18 Mar 09
who could this s-lover be? I bet he wanted goose to be gooses too but just didn't win! LOL
@Ritchelle (3795)
• Philippines
18 Mar 09
no. he wanted sheep to be sheeps but didn't win!
@Theresaaiza (10528)
• Australia
18 Mar 09
I just knew now that sheep can never be sheeps! Thanks to you. Good thing there are barely any farms raising sheep here otherwise I would have sounded funny saying SHEEPS!
@Margarit (3677)
• Philippines
18 Mar 09
Hi theresaaiza, English language is a complicated words to understand like this, If the plural of tooth is teeth shouldn't the plural of phone booth be phone beeth? If a vegetarian eats vegetables, what the heck does a humanitarian eat? What do you think?
@Loverbear (4928)
• United States
19 Mar 09
I love that! How about octogenarians? Humm, maybe they can't eat until October? Like the word moose. Shouldn't the plural be meece? After all the plural of goose is geese...
@Theresaaiza (10528)
• Australia
20 Mar 09
*sigh....ENGLISH! You drive us nuts!
@ElicBxn (61143)
• United States
18 Mar 09
and mouse is mice, louse-lice, why not moose-mise?
@Theresaaiza (10528)
• Australia
19 Mar 09
Shhhh....mise is very destructive to the moose's humongous ego....
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@ElicBxn (61143)
• United States
19 Mar 09
@agrim94 (3807)
• India
28 Mar 09
:) english is really funny language and many alphabets are silent which i can never understand the logic behind them like K in know or knee or P in pneumonia.. and many words sound so different like do and go when they are two alphabet words and both ending in O. so i dont find it amazing that there are humans and not humen on the earth.
@Theresaaiza (10528)
• Australia
3 Apr 09
Well as I know it, a lot of english words were born from many languages, mostly Latin, and Greek. The sources of those words you mentioned came from languages with many silent letters especially the Greek ones.
@bamrahkirti (1824)
• India
24 Mar 09
Well English is a universal language and it has been adopted from various other languages from around the globe.There are no hard and fast rules in it except for grammar and that is why pronunciations are different for different words and singular and plural are also different .Though these sometimes look absurd but no one can really explain the reasons behind the different versions for different words,so in a way we have become habitual and known to these words and do not find them weird.
@Theresaaiza (10528)
• Australia
30 Mar 09
That is right. It takes a lot of getting used to to really master it. Native English speakers are blessed in this manner.
• Philippines
24 Mar 09
I don't know who invented the English language either and it's really very confusing sometimes to get the proper terms for a a particular action.
@Theresaaiza (10528)
• Australia
30 Mar 09
That's my problem sometimes too. Some local words or expressions just don't seem to have any English translations
• India
23 Mar 09
hi lotter your question is nice but iam sorry i dont have the answer. :)
@Theresaaiza (10528)
• Australia
24 Mar 09
Thanks for dropping by, 'swani!
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@Ysabel (1201)
• Philippines
20 Mar 09
hello Theresaaiza! You know what, i enjoy reading this thread/ discussion! he he.. i even enjoy the replies from other mylotters! truly, English is very complicated! he he
@Theresaaiza (10528)
• Australia
23 Mar 09
Hi, ysa, Im glad you're enjoying. I agree with you. :-D
@CJscott (4182)
• Canada
20 Mar 09
A while back I stopped trying to make sense of it all. It is english, it is literally derived from EVERY other language on the planet. What ever once struck someones fancy became a word. Heck, Webster's even says "D'oh" is a word. So, I looked into and found out it don't matter. Proper spelling was only introduced something like 150-200 years ago. And if you want to make up a new word or phrase you are just practicing neologism. In the end of it all I truly believe that if who ever is reading/listening, understands, that is all that is important.
@Theresaaiza (10528)
• Australia
20 Mar 09
You are right. A lot of our languages can be weird. :-D
• Philippines
20 Mar 09
Yes right
@Theresaaiza (10528)
• Australia
20 Mar 09
Uh-huh.
@kimutaku (145)
• China
19 Mar 09
uhn... someone set these rules especially for man and woman~ maybe because human can divide into "men" and "women" what about call the person who set this rule? I will give you the number...XXXXXXX
@Theresaaiza (10528)
• Australia
19 Mar 09
Thank you kimu! We've been trying to hunt down the very person, and you just gave us a very helpful lead. That's a very helpful number you got there!