Are people really so sensitive? Is humour on the way out?

@Colmuc (707)
March 26, 2009 1:32pm CST
Sir David Jason, a very famous and popular British actor, was recently a guest on a private UK radio station. During the progamme he cracked a joke which it is claimed was in bad taste and could cause offense to Pakistanis. He has since been forced to apologise. Do we have any Pakistani members who could comment on this, please?. What do others think? I cannot believe that anyone could see the slightest reason to complain but.... maybe somebody thinks differently and everyone is entitled to their opinion. The "offensive" joke. What do you call a Pakistani cloakroom attendant? Answer: Mahatma Coat Well, as a Scot I have always had to face jokes about how mean my countrymen are. Examples; Why do Scots not have refrigerators? Because they cannot be sure the light will go out when the door is closed! How was copper wire invented? Two Scots fighting over a penny! Was I ever offended? Not a bit! The more we laugh the less time we have to cry!
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@peedielyn (1207)
• United States
26 Mar 09
I think that it is on it's way out. My heart is broken over that. We as a whole wide world are allowed to whine and cry over anything that has offended them at some point or another. People are allowed to create lawsuits to get back at the other guy who offended them. I would love to know what happened to letting it slide of the shoulder or "turning the other cheek". I am blonde, my mother is stupid, and we are of German decent, dutch, scottish, and Irish. Does that mean I am retarded and ride the DUI shortbus(mind you there is a joke about that). No, I don't find anything offensive unless you are cruel to my dad or my kids. People need to toughen up a bit and get over the stupid stuff. Those who cannot live life fully are often destroyers of life--I live by that quote.
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@peedielyn (1207)
• United States
26 Mar 09
Sorry if that offended but in the Dictionary term Stupid--I think her picture is there. It's part of the cruel jokes that come with our family. I have heard it all. We just laugh it off anymore. Have you heard the " your momma is so stupid...."jokes. My mom takes the cake. I didn't mean to offend, I promise, but see this is what we are talking about. Funny one it is, but then again, I am part Jewish and the rest of the family is German. Kinda ironic don't you think?
@Canellita (12029)
• United States
26 Mar 09
I'm sorry, did you actually mean to say that you're mother is stupid?
@Canellita (12029)
• United States
26 Mar 09
First, yes people can be too sensitive. The reason for it is that they have reason to be. Either they have experienced some sort of discrimination or they are carrying around some other internalized hurt that makes them behave as though they are in need of immediate anger management. Second, the comment may have seemed innocent but these is actually a very complex situation with a few different things going on. You have European colonization of other cultures and the way the indigenous people have been treated and after centuries of oppression and all the resulting conditions it is just never going to be appropriate for a "white" person to publicly make jokes at the expense of a non-white person. It isn't just about whether or not somoone is thin skinned. It is about responsibility and being accountable in the world community at large. It is about the resulting fallout that can and does occur after an incident like this happens. The people who were listening to the radio that day are going to repeat what they heard. Some will repeat the joke; some will ask their friends and relatives "is this funny?" Some will get into arguments over it and some of those arguments will be physical. Other media agencies are going to broadcast the details and rehash the incident to the enth degree and there will be further reactions to those actions. If a Pakistani comedian had told the joke almost everyone would have laughed and almost no one would have made an issue of it. It always ok for us to laugh at ourselves yet it is never ok for us to be the butt of other people's jokes. More often than not these jokes are made in a mean spirited manner and because we all know this there will always be a question in the back of our minds when someone makes a comment where we wonder if they are actually making some kind of racial slur. It will always make us look at them in a different light and wonder if they are someone we should trust. I have to admit that bit about the wire would be funny no matter who was fighting over the penny but I wouldn't want any one Scottish to be offended because I thought so. The refrigerator joke doesn't make sense to me. I am well aware of how Scots and Brits clash from time to time but if you take the think about your parents and grandparents and their experiences interacting with other cultures, would they share your ability to easily shake off those Scot jokes? I am "African-American" in the United States in the heart of the deep south where racism and bigotry are still very much alive and well and yet I have plenty of "white" friends and almost always have as weill as friends of all other cultures. I have heard all the stories from older family and community members and their peers on both sides of the color lines and while my experience has been vastly differnt from those elders I am still affected by it. They still react to life based on their perspective based on their experiences and their pain is very real. It doesn't matter that I am not affected the same way by the same occurances. I understand the reason these people feel the way they do even if I am sometimes a little impatient and wondering when things will change. Tolerence begins by being sensitive to all members of the global community and showing respect for all cultures.
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@Colmuc (707)
26 Mar 09
Wow! Thank you very much, Cannelita. That is a real response. I understand and appreciate your views. It is sad that our fellow men have caused so much trouble and given people cause to be sensitive. I have never thought of humour being offensive and must admit I have told very many jokes about a wide range of people including myself and my country. At no time did I feel I was criticising or showing any ill feeling or offense towards my "victim". I will continue telling uncensored jokes until I take my last breath. For wider, unidentified audiences like in internet I will be more careful, to avoid any misunderstanding. Thank you again and best wishes.
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@Canellita (12029)
• United States
26 Mar 09
Here is something that is along the lines of the light not going out in the fridge that is kind of funny yet also sad. I have a cousin who is deaf who used to unplug her phone to say on her electric bill. She could not be convinced the one didn't have to do with the other because you plugged it in just like all your other appliances and if you're old enough to remember when phones actually had a square plug with four prongs you might understand why. I always thought that was very odd. She would unplug a lot of other things too.
@smacksman (6053)
27 Mar 09
Some people just have no sense of humour and if they happen to be black or Muslim or whatever then there is hell to pay. Life must be sooooo dull without a sense of humour! My wife is from the Lothians and she took an old contraceptive back to the chemist to see if they could repair the hole in it.
@Colmuc (707)
27 Mar 09
My experience with Muslims and Black people is very positive. In Asia all the Muslims I met were very friendly and anxious to tell me they did not approve of the various terrorist acts taking place around the world. They wanted to live in peace. Like in everything else it is the minority who make the bad name for all. I live in Germany where people are very sensitive. One evening in a large International group I was telling many jokes and the Germans were all laughing until I mentioned the German who was stopped at the Pearly Gates and refused entry. He demanded an explanation and St Peter told him " We are not making sauerkraut for one." Everybody except the Germans thought it was funny. Did your wife get the contraceptive repaired? If so please provide the address for other Scottish members. Thank you.
@thezone (9394)
• Ireland
27 Mar 09
I would agree with what you say a lot of people have become way to sensitive. I would agree with what you say a lot of people have become way to sensitive. I think it is worse now after the Russell Brand, Jonathan Ross incident, the media brought that to everyone’s attention and gave viewers or listeners a certain power. After the Manuel-gate fiasco look how many things were taken way too seriously, such as Jeremy Clarkston and the trucker joke and Chris Moyles and his Will young joke. Comedians may become a dying breed if this trend continues. Humour is very subjective and will be different to everyone. I'm Irish and I do see the funny side in most situations. I am sure you have heard all the Paddy jokes. Paddy Englishman Paddy Irishman Paddy Scotsman Am I offended by any of it ? No
@Colmuc (707)
27 Mar 09
Hi, I am delighted to get an Irish response. Thank you. The wonderful Irish people were the subject of many jokes I told and my Irish friends always asked me to tell them my latest. I loved my business trips to Ireland. The humour of the people is so rich. I checked into a Dublin hotel once and when I went to my room found that the carpet was soaking wet and water still dripping from the ceiling. I called reception and a man and a lady appeared very quickly. Their comments were; The Man; "It's coming from above." The lady; "Did you ask for a room with a shower?" Priceless! I hope they never change.
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@thezone (9394)
• Ireland
27 Mar 09
That is so typical Irish about the room and the shower, seeing the funny side in a bad situation. Yes we do have very good connection with the Scots, we are all Clansmen and women. Freedom!!!!
@thezone (9394)
• Ireland
9 Apr 09
I am not too sure if we can post jokes in a discussion. I know it says in the guidelines that we can not post jokes for starting a discussion. I am not too sure about posting jokes within a discussion. I don't want to take a chance just in case it gets Colmucs discussion deleted.
@Boofybutt (316)
• United States
26 Mar 09
I always get dumb blonde jokes. For instance, if a blonde, a red-head, and a brunette jump off a roof who would land last? The blonde, because she has to stop and ask for directions. Sorry if that joke offended any other blondes here, it's just the first example of the jokes people insist on telling me for some reason. Laughter is very healthy, keeps you young.
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@Colmuc (707)
30 Mar 09
Thanks for that one and good that you can tell it. I think that most of the blonde jokes I have heard have been from blondes!
@MAllen400 (829)
30 Mar 09
At the moment in England you have to be very careful to be "politically correct". The government is saying we should not say this or that yet the person the joke is aimed at says yes that was funny. Madness. and David Jason is one Gentleman.
@Colmuc (707)
30 Mar 09
Thank you young lady. I am a great admirer of David Jason. "Open all Hours" and "Only Fools and Horses" must be two of the best comedies ever. Maybe some lines from those shows would cause trouble today. "Love Thy Neighbour" was one that I liked and that would definitely not get past the sensors now.
@Colmuc (707)
30 Mar 09
Yes, It was really funny and old Alf spared nobody unless they were West Ham fans.
• Philippines
27 Mar 09
some people are but not all, sometimes it's hard to break a joke, because you don't know their background,which would offend them or not.
@Colmuc (707)
27 Mar 09
Thank you young lady, Yes, we need to be careful but still keep the jokes flowing.
@elmiko (6630)
• United States
27 Mar 09
I've noticed a delcine in humor from people over the years. People should lighting up.
@Colmuc (707)
27 Mar 09
Hi Elmiko, You are right. People are becoming too serious. My friends who are still in business tell me that work is no fun any more. I am glad to be retired because I enjoyed every working day laughing with colleagues and customers alike.
@iamsolucky (1241)
• Philippines
27 Mar 09
Just laugh at it, its no good to feel your heart aching because of this jokes. Every country has its own jokes too.
@Colmuc (707)
27 Mar 09
You are right , better to laugh than get annoyed. Do you have a Philippines joke for us?
@vindiku (255)
• India
27 Mar 09
Hi, Enjoying a joke always depends on who the listeners are. It must be understood that each and everyone have their own way of viewing things and when someone says something, it is always the right thing for them, cause its the way they view that particular thing. It is not necessary that a particular joke which you enjoyed will be something that much digestible to another. That happens. Things get worse when such jokes are particularly pointing to some community. Those mature people in the society are not ready to take a joke as a joke. Never mind, if you like it, just keep laughing.
@Colmuc (707)
30 Mar 09
Thank you, It saddens me that people are so sensitive though without any reason. I certainly will keep laughing.
@hehuamei (17)
• China
27 Mar 09
Since is the joke.should not be must go intentionally to offend anything! Since is the joke. that lets us joke it away. is willing the joyful health to be good! However has many friends to be very sensitive. so long as we attention in the language are good.
@Colmuc (707)
27 Mar 09
Thank you Hehuamei, Nice to have a contribution from China. I love China. Shanghai is one of my favourite cities. I adore Chinese ladies, Chinese food and Chinese massage. I can walk today without pain thanks to a Chinese lady who cured a back problem that German specialists told me I just had to live with! A friend called a company in China and when the phone was answered he said "Is that Shanghai 076337665428679431658? Somebody replied "Solly, long numba". Hope you understand and can have a laugh.
30 Mar 09
I think people are offendid too easily these days, a joke is a joke, it doesn't mean anything, it just makes you smile/laugh. That joke certainly wasn't what I would call "offensive", it didn't actually say anything racist about the Pakistani, some people need to lighten up, 'take a chill pill'.
@Colmuc (707)
30 Mar 09
You are right. As far as I know no Pakistani objected just some stupid so called "Do Gooders". They have little to do and tiny brains when they think that is offensive? I wonder if "Herr Cut" the German barber would annoy them?