A male married Priest or a female Priest?

Singapore
April 1, 2009 10:11pm CST
For Roman Catholics out there we all know about our Priest's celibacy, however we also know that the number of priests being ordained is dropping at an alarming rate. We now face the possibility of not ordaining a new priest by 2020, who knows what will happen after that. This is the reason why Vatican initiated a massive worldwide campaign to recruit new priests, but sadly it's not picking up. To be honest I see only two scenarios where Vatican can increase the number of priest in a short amount of time. First is allow married men to be ordained as Priest, the second is to allow females to be ordained as well. It would take a VERY gutsy Pope to make that decision, one that will change the Roman Catholic Church forever. I however do believe that everything must evolve, and the church is not immune to that change no matter how they try to preserve traditions. So to all Catholics and non-Catholics out there, do you think one or both of the scenarios I listed above will come to pass? If so, which one would you prefer? Let me know your thoughts. Cheers!
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• United States
2 Apr 09
Im Catholic and Im a fan of letting married men and women become priest. We are like the only denomation that does that. Some men who are married feel the call to serve and are intersted in becoming priest but they also want a family the same for women. Alot of these men windup becoming deacons but they can't say mass by themeselves cause they cant bless the Eurchrist so you still need a priest there. If the church wants to surive they will have to start allowing men who are married and women to become priest.
@laydee (12798)
• Philippines
3 Apr 09
You know, it's not very difficult to understand if you only really take a good look at all of us. Let's take for example the single men and women. We as single people have a lot of freedom for ourselves, we can have fun all night and just do whatever we please, but when we do get married, our set of priorities change. We can't just go out every night, there's a family to feed. There are mortgages and other stuff to pay for. Bills are mounting and we have to send children to school. In short, things change when you get married. This is similar to a Single Priest, versus a married one. You can't expect a Priest to divide himself to God and family. You can't expect him to go to the communities and wherever he would be assigned to and leave his family behind because he's on a mission. The main reason why they want single Priests is the fact that they don't choose where they go, they won't stay at the parish all their lives, they'd be assign to parts of the world. Now, if there are married priests, what would happen to their families if they're away? If married men and women do want to serve God, there are many other ways, they could go on a mission together as missionaries or they could do catechisms every Sunday or something like that. Being a Priest isn't an 8-5pm job, it's 24/7. As for women Priests, well, if you start doing that, then all the Priests in the Seminary would be tempted and soon there'll be less and less Priests. This is why they are secluded when they study, they need to practice how it is to be apart from the world. They need to know that it's a vocation and a calling. Priesthood isn't something you'd just try on, it takes years to cultivate someone to decide for himself if he does want to live his life that way.
• United States
3 Apr 09
I get your point and it is all true but what about other denomations that allow marriage. My aunt married a baptist and converted cause she wanted her family to be raised in one church. Her husband always dreamt of becoming a Reverned and having his own church like his dad did. He did realise his dream, they have there church going on for 7 years now Family Unity Baptist Church. He balances the dutys of his church,his family and his community. When he has church members who are sick and in the hospital, he goes and prayes with them, when one of this church memebers needs his conusel he goes to them he sets up times to talk with them. he also does alot of communtiy outreach programs. He takes care of all of the business ends of there church as well with my aunts help all this while having a job as well. Him being a REV is a 24/7 job as well. So it can be done.Men and woman that have families and work for missionary organizations overseas sometimes take there family with them not all but some do. Men of other denomations get assigned and move to different churches accross the country and there family goes with them. They dont just stay and the man goes. Are men that have families less qualifed to preach the word? I don't think so. It is possible to still do all the duties required of a priest and still have a family. As far as male's going to the semiary and getting temped by the females going there as well if female were allowed, gosh.. we aren't giving these people alot of credit are we. Men and women who go to study together in seminaries for other denomation still come out knowing that what they have chosen is a vocation and not just a passing fancy. They can create a seminary just for women, that way the issue of being tempted can just go away and women could still be allowed to become priest. Deciding to become a priest or to go into any sort of religious way of live(like becoming a monk or a nun) isnt a decision one takes lightly and you are right it does take years to really know if this is something you want. What is wrong with having both? If it really comes down to the church not being able to continue because they aren't getting enough single males entering the seminary I would rather have a married priest or a female preist than no priest at all.
@laydee (12798)
• Philippines
2 Apr 09
It's actually not practical for a priest to be married. Why? well, obviously when you're married you have other priorities. You'd need to feed your family, etc. so your attention would not be devoted to God and religion alone, you'd have mouth to feed so you'd be forced to do some kind of other way to earn. As for women priests, well, the main reason why Priests are single is because they need to focus, having women priests together with men priests would only be outside the point. Any organization where men and women get together will always form a relationship of some sort that causes problems in the end. Most especially if they are not supposed to fall in love with each other. It's not really alarming because though there are places where there are no more priests and many are dropping out, there are still good priests every where. I don't think having women priests nor married priests is a good idea nor an option the Roman Catholic would ever consider. There have been generations or centuries where there were shortages of priests during the persecution of the religious people. But they always bounce back. The mere thought that the Roman Catholic religion has survived many years (far more than other religions) would prove that whatever system they are doing now is effective. I guess the main thing we, as lay people could do is to avoid tempting these religious people. They too are human beings, and they're not numb. Avoid flirting with them and treat them and God with utmost respect. Women should be conscious of what they wear, or act around religious people. And of course, believe in the power of prayers. Good luck!
• Singapore
2 Apr 09
You do have good points there laydee. But statistics have shown that in countries like France and Ireland, traditionally considered the bread basket of priests, seminaries are drying up. You also have to remember that change is inevitable in this world, it's either we accept it or we rot away. It's probably not alarming in PI, but here in SG there are only 54 priest, including the bishop. 80% of them are senior citizens, and this year only 5 priest will be ordained. It has been said that in 2013 no local priest will be ordained here, so the church must look for other countries for resources, and one of them is PI. Even in most Latin American countries, this trend is true, so it is alarming and Vatican knows that. Cheers!
@urbandekay (18278)
2 Apr 09
"It's actually not practical for a priest to be married." But what about those priests that are married? We need to get rid of these inventions practised by the Roman Church and return to the way of Christ. all the best urban
@laydee (12798)
• Philippines
3 Apr 09
Yeah, that's why they tend to get priests from other countries like our country and other Asian countries as well. Having married priests won't solve the problem. Specially in these economic times. Remember that in the old days, they did allow priests to be married. So, it's not something new anymore. You could actually search that online. Plus remember, you don't need to be a Priest in order to follow God's ways, you could be a lay minister or be laymen/women to help in the mission of the church.
@urbandekay (18278)
2 Apr 09
Celibacy for priest is neither universal in the Roman Church no recommended by Christ for all. all the best urban
• United States
2 Apr 09
I am a methodist, actually I do not wear a denominational badge, only "Christian". I thought I'd mention that first because I am speaking from a protetant point of view. I do not care what the celibate nature of Catholic priests evlove into provided it does not involve into pediphilia(spelling). I do not think it is right to ask a man, or woman to adopt a behavior that is contrary to their biological make up. But, they know that going into it. Was Abraham celebate ? What about Moses ? King David ? ect.
• United States
2 Apr 09
I would be happy with either or both. At this point, the Church needs a change to continue going forward with any kind of strength. The reason for priests not marrying dates back to medieval years when priests could still marry and priesthood was an esteemed job. If a priest had a son, or sons, it would be easy for them to enter the clergy, and over time, people feared this would turn the Church into a dynastic hierarchy. The Church therefore ruled that priests could not marry, to prevent this from happening, and the rule still stands today. Of course, today they tell us priests can't marry for virtuous reasons, but if that were the case, marriage wouldn't be considered a sacrament, then, would it? By allowing priests to marry, the Church would also be allowing the opportunity for a Catholic person to receive all seven sacraments. In my mind, I can't see why that would be a bad thing. Regardless, whether they allow women to be ordained, or allow priests to marry - something's got to happen to ensure the Church's survival!
@blue65packer (11826)
• United States
2 Apr 09
I am a non-cathlolic. I believe a priest should be able to marry if he chooses! Clergy in othe christian religions can marry! So why not the priest? It is so old school and dumb! If priests were able ot marry there wouldn't be this problem! With women being able to become priests, I'm all for it! They should have the same right as a man in the Catholic church! This no way will happen until there is a realy open minded Pope! I don't see that in that any time soon!