Did you hear that John McCain will be facing a primary challenge?

@ladyluna (7004)
United States
April 21, 2009 3:38pm CST
Hello All, So, the news is that one of the co-founders of the Minutemen Civil Defense Corps, Chris Simcox, is resigning from the Minutemen to throw his hat in the ring to challenge John McCain in the primary race for the Arizona Senate seat. Below is the link to a blog report about the challenge, and a statement from Chris Simcox. "John McCain has failed miserably in his duty to secure this nation's borders and protect the people of Arizona from the escalating violence and lawlessness," Simcox said. "He has fought real efforts over the years at every turn, opting to hold our nation's border security hostage to his amnesty schemes. Coupled with his votes for reckless bailout spending and big government solutions to our nation's problems, John McCain is out of touch with everyday Arizonans. Enough is enough." http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0409/McCain_facing_2010_primary.html?showall Any thoughts?
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
21 Apr 09
I lived in Arizona for 28 years and I'd vote for Simcox. He's a real patriot. McCain is running again?! My God, why doesn't he know when to stop?! He's done little except be a talking head, he and Napolitano worked hard to make sure the borders were wide open and now Napolitano is harassing Sheriff Joe Arpaio (I love that guy!). I'm in Ohio now or I'd certainly vote for Chris Simcox!
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
21 Apr 09
Hello Dragon, So, you're a 'snowbird' in reverse? I love Sheriff Joe as well. I wish there were hundreds more like him in our Criminal Justice system. There is an organized move on to force Napolitano's firing over the 'secret' memo tagging certain law-abiding citizens as terrorists. So, perhaps without Ms. Napolitano spearheading the attacks on Sheriff Joe the attacks will be dismissed, as well they should. What gets me is how supportive she was of Sheriff Joe when it was politically expedient to be so. Then, when the tides shifted, she shifted with them in record speed. Hmmm, isn't that called hypocrisy? She is a duplicitous pharisaic, and it appears as though a wave is brewing against the continued acceptance of pecksniffian, duplicitous, phonies among our elected. May that wave touch each and every voter -- everywhere, eh???
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
21 Apr 09
Excellent distinction, Dragon!!!
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
21 Apr 09
I hope the voters are getting wise. We shouldn't have to put up with politicians when we need statesmen!
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• United States
21 Apr 09
Good to see McCain getting some real conservative competition. I do not live in Arizona. But I will definately keep an eye on it. I hope this is a trend. It would be good to see this happen in more states. The RINOs and Neocons need to be thinned out some.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
21 Apr 09
Hello Lilwonders, I agree with the prospect of thinning out the RINOs & the Neocons. Values cannot be compromised, and still be considered values.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
21 Apr 09
I bet McCain will relish being the media darling again during that primary. He's been playing lapdog to the incompetent press ever since they turned on him for daring to run against a Democrat for president. The fact that McCain was the best candidate during the 2008 election says nothing for him, but only proves how shallow the waters ran. It's time for John McCain to go back to Arizona and live out his retirement as gentlemen citizen.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
21 Apr 09
"A gentleman citizen...", perhaps ParaTed. No doubt John McCain has decades of invaluable experience, which I believe might be beneficially applied in any number of ways. Though, his propensity to fall in with the populist trend contradicts the vision of our Founders & Framers. It's high time to boot all of our 'wishy-washy' politicians. Sadly, I have to include John McCain among them. His back and forth about comprehensive immigration reform clearly demonstrated his unwillingness to stand firm on important issues. That susceptibility to populism is unquestionably the threshold to corruption.
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@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
21 Apr 09
McCain has polluted the conservative pool for far too long and he should have been sent home years ago. He is nothing more than another liberal RINO who would have been more honest running as a democrat. I believe that he will be one of many to fall in the next election. I know many democrats are mad at some of their people as well, and if the recent TEA Parties are any indication, the democrats have much to fear from their people as well. The revolution is just beginning.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
21 Apr 09
Hello Destiny, Based on my experience at a T.E.A. event, I'd agree that both parties have much to fear! Can McCain emerge victorious from a primary challenge??? 'Course a challenge means that the seat is open to a DNC swoop. So, there is risk involved in challenging McCain. At this point though, I believe that more Americans will be voting for integrity in 2010 than ever before. If that is so, then I believe that it's worth the risk. I suspect that I am among the majority who would prefer integrity regardless of party affiliation over more of the same 'ol backscratching corruption and political expedience.
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
21 Apr 09
I don't live in Arizona, but if I did, I would support Simcox in a heartbeat. This is an example of what we should be looking for in congress, someone who apreciates and is willing to abide bythe constitution and an america first menality. I admire his work on our borders, he has put himself and his reputation on the line, in the face of often venomous oposition to his efforts and has constinued in the spirit of the true and legitimate militia despite a national campaign to smear him as a right winf nut racist, this man is indeed a true patriot, something McCain used to be until he sold out to big government.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
21 Apr 09
Hello X, Constitutional adherence and an "America first mentality"; you'll get no argument from me!
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@cxm702 (11)
• United States
22 Apr 09
I want to start by saying that I am extremely encouraged to see so many people who are answering this question from a conservative point of you. having said that we conservatives are failing because we have allowed today's liberal media and society give us a candidate that is so lukewarm in the last election. a quote i found to describe what i mean is "in the republic of mediocrity, genius is dangerous". we have let society dictate to us what our beliefs ought to be for too long. and i can only hope that in 2012 we have the heart and audacity to chose a candidate who atleast is closer to our conservative values than he is close to the values of the liberals. lukewarm is far too over-rated.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
23 Apr 09
Welcome Cxm702! I always enjoy seeing new folks in discussions. Though, my enthusiasm does rise to higher levels when I'm given the opportunity to welcome a fellow Conservative. I hope that you thoroughly enjoy your time here. To be sure, we have some very keen Conservative thinkers here. I'm sure that you'll enjoy interracting among them. As well, we have a number of very committed, sharp Liberals who provide an interesting volleying opportunity. I agree that the tolerance of mediocrity, especially with regard to one's embrace of philosophy leads to an ever expanding sense of frustration and longing for real solutions and real leadership. It'll be interesting to see how Michael Steele handles this division among the ranks. Me thinks there will be a number of primary challenges in upcoming elections. The days of incumbents slumbering through elections is OVER!
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• Philippines
22 Apr 09
It must for a candidate to loose the election and move on.but loosing his edge in the senate as well with regards to making and passing laws. i feel pity for this man. but it's reasonable doubt because he is old i feel that he really needs to retire from politics at his age. I hope one day he would wake up on this. No offense but if he was young enough maybe i could have disagree..
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
22 Apr 09
Hello Mikaela_taz25, I'm confident that you're not alone in regarding John McCain's age in respect to the AZ Senate seat. I tend to place a very high value on experience, so I am not one that will discount age -- unless malady is a factor. As an aside: Throughout history, clans & tribes have always revered wisdom, and elevated their senior most members to a place of respect. Today's society is pretty much the first in our species' history to toss off our seniors like yesterday's used rags. I cannot and will not support agism, because I believe it is a terribly unsound policy. Youth has advantages, but so does seasoned wisdom. Now where I will definitely join ranks with your comment is in regard to "making and passing laws". John McCain has been a disappointment to many in that regard. His age has nothing to do with this particular shortcoming. Rather, it is his misguided notion that it is better to try to be all things to all people, than to speak one's principles with conviction. Which sadly is a misnomer that quite a few elected officials erroneously embrace. Of course, I suspect that what you were really suggesting is that old dogs have a harder time learning new tricks. And, because McCain is already in his 70s, that he is unlikely to surrender his old tricks. Is that what you meant?
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@PrarieStyle (2486)
• United States
22 Apr 09
I have heard about this. Although I voted for him, I strongly disagreed with his stance on immigration and the border. I think will Simcox will win by a land slide. It will be good to have someone there who will address the issue instead of ignoring the fact that Arizona is the kidnapping capitol of the country.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
23 Apr 09
Hello PrairieStyle, Thank you for putting it into writing. I suspect that the fact that Phoenix, AZ is the kidnapping capitol of the whole USA, and is second in the world for kidnappings only behind Mexico City is a startling statement of fact that has been glossed over by the media and the average American. Phoenix, the Snowbird capitol -- #2 in the world for kidnapping. Yup, I'd say that Arizona is in desperate need of some new leadership!!! I suspect that the biggest issue for Simcox is going to be money. John McCain has cash left in the coffers from the Presidential race that he can apply to the Senate race. Also, it'll be interesting to see which one Michael Steele seems to line up behind!
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