I don't understand

@dfollin (24172)
United States
April 21, 2009 10:21pm CST
There are people killing their families and themselves because they are depressed.They are depressed because they lost their jobs and their nice house or car.I don't understand that.Since late 2001 I have been ill and had to have surgeory,my husband got cancer and died,hospitals and doctors did not treat him well,we have lost our home several times,had to give away my furniture.My sick husband slept in our car several nights and my youngest son has slept in his car as well.My daughter and I are living in a room for the past 7 months and most of our belongings are in storage.My son lost his stuff twice.I have put out hundreds of dollars($1,300 to be close) in trying to improve our situation.But,I have not tried to kill myself or even thought of it.These people are in a situation where they are going to possibly have to move to an apartment,I am in a room with my daughter.Or they will have to drive a Chevy instead of a BMW.I don't have a car.I do not have medical.I don't understand.
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@tlb0822 (1410)
• United States
22 Apr 09
My fiance and I have been in tough situations, and I have never thought of harming myself or my family. There is always hope. Thankfully we have never lost our home, or our hope. I always say it has to get better sometime, it just has to. And it has. As long as I have my family that is all that matters. We try to make it with what we have, and sometimes that isn't good enough, but we still have our health and we are still together. Sometimes we have to go without, but as long as our daughter is taken care of, and healthy and happy that is all that matters to us. I hope that people can start realizing that it isn't all about money, and life means so much more.
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@dfollin (24172)
• United States
22 Apr 09
Good for you to have not thought of hurting yourself or them.Your right there is always hope and life means so much.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
22 Apr 09
Neither do I. I can understand someone who is critically ill, temporary insane, or feels that the only way his family can survive is if he kills himself and they collect the insurance, but for someone who had a nice house, is now going in arrears, kills not just himself but his children, I feel no sympathy for. And in many cases he survives. It is as if he decided to change his mind or he never intended to do the deed, but survive anyway. To me it speaks of cowardice and greed. Or perhaps they rose from humble beginnings, they lived in that one room flat and they do not want to go from their nice six bedroom home to that flat. They think of themselves as failures so they kill themselves rather then have everyone think so. Either way, it is not a good way to go.
@dfollin (24172)
• United States
22 Apr 09
Amen! I agree.I feel sorry for the family members that they have killed.The only thing I can see that this does erase his respondsibilities.
@lingli_78 (12822)
• Australia
22 Apr 09
i think the reason why those people do that is because they do not have HOPE anymore... HOPE is the thing that can keep people going and not giving up when things are bad... it is when people lose HOPE in this life that they will start to think to take their own lives and even their family which is a sin... take care and have a nice day...
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@dfollin (24172)
• United States
22 Apr 09
Yes it is a sin.They think they had it bad here,wait till they see where they will be spending their after life.
• United States
22 Apr 09
my guess it's because they don't want to leave them in potential worse misery than if they just take themselves out.so they decided it's "better they all go". twisted way of looking at it,but severe depression messes with your mind sometimes.
@dfollin (24172)
• United States
22 Apr 09
It's twisted alright!
@Samanthavv (1380)
• United States
22 Apr 09
I can understand. I can understand wholeheartedly. I'm 20. Married. I have an almost two year old daughter, and am expecting a son in less than three weeks, and my situation money wise keeps going from bad, to worse, to worse, to unbearable. I don't even have my own place. I'm living out of a bedroom in my soon-to-be-ex-step-dad's house... and even my time there is limited. And the bills keep piling on. Makes me want to curl up under a rock and die.
@dfollin (24172)
• United States
22 Apr 09
I am 47,widowed and have a 12 year old.I don't have a place of my own either.Which is time limited.My finances keep getting worse also.My 12 year old is not understanding about it either.But,I cannot understand how someone will kill their families then themselves. Keep your head up.Things will get better.
@jellymonty (2352)
22 Apr 09
You are actually in a position that it would be justifiable to kill yourself but thank God you have a brain that works properly and you know that it is utterly stupid and selfish for one to take their life. Although I sympathise with your situation, I must commend you for being a strong fighter and being able to survive such a horrible crisis. My thoughts and prayers are with you...
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@dfollin (24172)
• United States
22 Apr 09
Thank you! I don't know about how my brain works properly,lol but I do know that it will not help and it is also a sin to kill myself and/or my family.And it won't be greater living where I will be spending my after life either.
@Polly1 (12645)
• United States
23 Apr 09
I don't understand neither. We all have stuff that happens, we can't throw in the towel. When the going gets tough, the tough get going. You know some of my story, I haven't given up neither. You just have to keep on keeping on. Some people live high on the hog and way beyond their means. We know how to live poor, we know how to tighten up the budget, we also know how to rob peter to pay paul. Good luck to you and your family, keep the faith, things will get better for you.
@deebomb (15304)
• United States
22 Apr 09
I don' think it matters what kind of house they lose or what kind of car they were driving but it is the despair that they feel with losing the job house and car. They don't see a way out at all. Some people such as yourself still have hope. Those people that kill their family and themselves see have no hope. If it weren't for hope and faith then there is nothing.
@dfollin (24172)
• United States
22 Apr 09
I don't understand why they don't have hope.At least living in a room or apartment rather then their house is better then being homeless.I am partially handicapped but have to walk places because I do not have a car.I have not had a reliable place to live in since February 2002 and I have not had a working car since August of 2007.
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@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
22 Apr 09
hi d, it's because u are a survivor & they weren't. i don't mean to offend anyone that has gone through some of their family who has done this but it's just a coward's way out of facing the good good, bad & the ugly. i had 2 stepfather's that committed sucicide. they just never think or realize what it's going to do to their families. you have so many what if's after this happens. i'm proud of you for hanging in there like u have. i know it hasn't been easy.
@dfollin (24172)
• United States
22 Apr 09
Thank you,it is rough. Lol, that doesn't say much good about your mom having 2 step father who killed themselves It's not funny,but I had to say it and I know that you know how to laugh things off.
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@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
23 Apr 09
you are so right. i think we can both relate to mothers.
@syankee525 (6261)
• United States
22 Apr 09
yeah i really dont understand it either, to kill myself or let alone my whole family. we found ourself having money issues after i gotten hurt ten years ago, we almost lost our house and no money to feed the kids. but being bless to have family that were in the prosition to help us out. and seeing there are others who had way worst then we did for sure. but i guess some can't swollow thier pride and aske for help. or maybe it's because they got use to living the good life and they forgot where they came from or they just been handed everything thier whole life. but its crazy at least give the kids to family and then they can kill own self.. sorry to hear about your stuff and your husband.
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@dfollin (24172)
• United States
22 Apr 09
Thank you and I hope things are going good for you and your family.
@jazel_juan (15747)
• Philippines
23 Apr 09
yes, these people who were once rich and have all the luxuries they want and when the time arrived that they lost everything it maybe felt like they could not survive all of it, some of them may have big debts and they thought there is no hope at all and they were used to all those necessities to the point that they do not know anymore how to live without those cars,computers,laptops,spas etc etc...it is sad that these people became so materialistic and they did not find hope when in fact hope is always there when you seek the right refuge and for me the right refuge would be GOD. I was in a situation where i made a mistake and i lost control of my life because of my own fault, i stumbled, it was hard, i cried a thousand times, i had a baby so early in my life, my huby that time do not have stable job and yet i tried to stand up, i went back to school with pennies in pocket enough only for a fare, we barely survive, the money my huby earned was only enough for our baby's needs like her milk and diaper and meds and immunizations, we do not have spare money for other things, yet i prayed, he prayed and we were able to stand up and here we are right now back on our feet and we are able to survive and that is with God's Grace. You yourself is a fighter and good for you, i admire you for it.:)) let us just pray for those who have a hard time right now with all the things they lost.
@myth0509 (33)
• China
23 Apr 09
I am sorry to hear your story dfollin, and i appreciate your attitude to hard life, good luck to you, Jsut as Will Simth said "I am on my way in chasing up happiness" It is quite easy from poor to rich but too hard from rich to poor, i can not understand what they did also because i have never riched all my life. I heared that every person in America wiil share maturity social ensure from government when confronting difficulty in losing job or medical problems. i rebuild my imagine from your story.
• United States
23 Apr 09
It is a horrible time right now, but I more so think people who kill themselves and their families are more so embarrassed by what has happened to them in their lives. Many American's and even other societies as well but particularly ours live beyond our means, outdoing one another on everything whether its the grass being greener in the neighborhood or driving that fancy BMW instead of the chevy. When your world starts to fall all around you and like many have said there isn't an option its like this switch that goes off and you simply lose it. Some people just can't take this and rather than admiting whats done is done they "fix" their situation and not in a good way. Your pride is seriously hurt, you are no longer held up high in the eyes of your fellow friends, etc. You are a failure and people will gossip about this. You are the talk of the town for not being able to keep a job or keep your home. Your children won't look at you as the proud parental figure but again as a failure and they may even be subjected to the hateful people and kids who make fun in other people's miseries. It disgusts me these people who kill their innocent children and spouses because they can't put it past themselves that they failed and it happens. We are ALL going through tough times right now, and truly I feel if we stick together and just ride it out in the end we will all be okay. As horrible as it is to say they always claim that when the world goes through a crisis together we seem to put aside all biast and prejudices and come together as one. I only hope this one does the same for us and we learn that its not about the fancy cars or the big houses but about love for one another and sticking together through thick or thin. My thoughts are with you. I couldn't imagine what you have gone through... Someone has said it right here, you are a strong person to have gone through all you have and people should look upon your situation and just be thankful that they have their loved ones.
@MasonL (97)
• Trinidad And Tobago
22 Apr 09
I think that some people cannot deal even with the simplist problems, much more for the hardist ones, not everyone are strong.
• Philippines
22 Apr 09
I ask similar questions like that as well..The thing is these people don't have any contentment in life. They are weak and they don't have faith. When I get depressed because I have so many loans or debts to pay or when I am having trouble putting my kids to school I sometimes feel like going over the edge..but I said NO....I try harder and don't think much of my problems. I try my best to get to where I want to be and I try my best to be positive in everything.
@violeta_va (4831)
• Australia
22 Apr 09
I guess that they feel that is the right thing to do. Would I do it - NEVER. I dont care for material things at all. I know I can at least have a dicent meal because of people that I know and have around and that is all I care for. Yes I have a nice house car and all that but if that was gone I will start over with what I have left. I have done it and know it can be done in my case. One thing I hate about this things is when people take other people with them. If you want to kill your self dont take your loved once with you its not fair to do so. And when they are gone the problems are left for the living to sort out.