Obesity and Global Warming, What's Next

United States
April 26, 2009 11:45pm CST
http://www.comcast.net/video/fat-people-destroying-the-planet/1101601365 (This is not a referral link, but a video that played on Comcast News via Fox News Station. Please watch the entire video before commenting, it's worthwhile). The following video was on Fox News via our Comcast news tonight. It basically stated that a study was done stating that researchers believe those who are obese are causing global warming because of extra food production, transportation issues, and so on. I was amazed by this research. I certainly do not hold with it, and I'm amazed that they would be presenting it. I understand that we do have a problem with the rise in obesity in this country, but to blame global warming on persons who may be classified as obese seems a bit much. There is evidence that a great many people put weight on when their body goes into starvation mode upon trying the latest fad diets all of the time, which causes issues with their metabolism. What is a more proactive way to deal with obesity in this country? How does one deal with this type of journalism and these types of research studies? Have you struggled with weight? What are you doing or what does your doctor have you doing? I'm really looking for those who can share proactively rather then how this particular news cast shared it. Let's try to think of solutions, rather then accusations, and let us all try to remember to be sensitive to others. Namaste-Anora
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
27 Apr 09
OMG--This is too stupid for words! First, NOT all obese people are obese due to over eating....many are genetically obese...some have such problems with weight issue that they opt for gastric bypass surgery to hopefully get them down to a semi normal weight, but even with that, many still remain overweight. And that blonde woman I wanted to strangle as she's also implying that obese people are a burden to health care and if they need operations of any kind should pay out of pocket...oh, yeah, that makes sense doesn't it? Since I had read past articles that some geniuses believe the global warming issue is also due to flatulence of cows here in America, and Kangaroos in Australia, I'm wondering if some genius will state that obese people give off more flatulence than thin people...LOL...in fact, to be honest, before I saw the video and only read your title for this discussion, honestly, I really DID think they were going to say that...LOL As far as the weight issue in general...there has been a dramatic rapid rise of young children who are obese (and diabetic) and I can't help thinking it's all due to poor diet choices to begin with. For instance I'm a real nutcase about reading labels now on processed foods. I had written an article about High Fructose Corn Syrup...one of the worst chemical concoctions going and it's practically in everything, even in foods you wouldn't suspect to have it...People too will opt for fast food type eating which is loaded with more fat (and salt) content...as a whole most Americans don't eat as healthy as our grandparents, or great-grandparents who, despite maybe starting out their day with a egg, bacon, pancake, sausage breakfast, knew how to balance their food intake with other healthier foods such as grains, more fruits and vegetables to balance the high cholesterol type breakfast. Anyway, bottom line...who knows what all these chemical concoctions in our processed foods are triggering off and yes, may be in many ways the culprits in obesity and other health issues like diabetes. As for me...well, on and off I've gained a few pounds here and there....but I've always been a "beanpole"---LOL. I opt for homecooked meals that I make, drink fruit juices like grape (NOT blends as they have HFCS)...water, teas, try to eat as fresh as possible produce (or frozen veggies)--and don't often get too many processed foods
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
27 Apr 09
Oh another thing that woman was implying was that obese people cause more food production....HUH? No...there's more food production since there's more people on the planet
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• United States
27 Apr 09
LOL - yeah, that one got me too, but just chalked it up to a flakey excuse. I credit the other woman, she held her composure as this blonde was digging her own hole. Just completely stupid. Good to see you Pye and like the new avatar - almost didn't recognise you -
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• United States
27 Apr 09
ROFLMAO - strangle her? LOL, can't imagine she's going to be real popular after this interview. The health care issue is stupid. You look at people with eating disorders that go the other way. They can't gain weight of are afraid of eating. They have more health problems later on in life because they've never taken care of their body! Are they to be looked down on or does this need to be taken out of pocket because it was their 'choice'. I think they labeled these disorders as a disease - just like high cholesterol, thyroid and other inherited things that cause weight gain. Hmmm, that don't add up. As for the obese issue. I know there is a lot of poor choices. Fast food is one of the greatest down falls I think in our growing world today - BUT, when you look at the foods in our grocery stores. Those ready made foods are nothing but JUNK. You are right to touch base on this. LMAO - wonder if after this aired all the companies in the food industry will be looking for a bail out too?
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@kprofgames (3091)
• United States
27 Apr 09
LMAO - Not Political? Intervine? OMG it's a direct hit at taking control of the parents away through health care in the school systems. Didn't Hillary want to do this??? Can anyone say social grooming?? Wow, wonder if the 'fat' camps will be concentration camps until you're a stick thin and are doing your part. Hells bells.
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• United States
28 Apr 09
Kprof and Pyewacket- Thanks for the great responses, you both bring up excellent points. I agree that it sounds more of a political stunt then a national health concern. And yes, I think if they were to compare the deaths of anorexics/belemics they'd see there are just as many deaths with those who have eating disorders. Great points. I think we need to look at all of the things affecting this world, and not scapegoat to anyone, but rather try to help everyone. And I think you're right, I think Hilary may have been trying to get something going. I know that Richard Simmons has been approaching congress trying to get PE classes to be held every day for 1 hour in schools across America, and that I do agree with. PE classes right now in our area are cut back to twice a month in the local elementary school. That's just not right. Thanks again for the discussions. Namaste-Anora
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
27 Apr 09
How ridiculous! There's ALWAYS an angle if you look hard enough and have the savvy and reach to exploit it. If we were to agree with this scenario, then we can attribute many more obscure things to global warming as well. For the sake of silly examples..... Babies crying because of the warm air their mouth's release; dog walking because of the plastic bags used to pick up the poop (The factories output to make the baggies, delivery of the bags to supermarkets. the car's being driven TO the supermarkets to buy the baggies and then the effects from disposing of them etc); exercising with your Nintendo Wii because of the production, packaging and distribution of the actual units and the fact we sweat while we do it and raise the earth's temperature..... When you look at it this way, we can assume then that everything contributes! Maybe we should move all obese people to Antarctica, Siberia and Northern Canada so that the extremely cold temperatures can offset their devastating impact! I agree with your comments about what are some of the main causes of obesity too. The desire to be thin is actually making us fatter!
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• United States
27 Apr 09
ROFLMAO!
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• United States
28 Apr 09
James- I always look forward to your comments! I agree. Hmm, I'm not sure I could do Sibera, Antartica, or N. Canada. I don't like Minnesota winters! LOL. It's true though, there are so many more factors to global warming. The link to this one is just another way to try to target a portion of society and scapegoat. And notice the only thing they said was they should exercise and eat less. There is more to weight problems than just that. Funny that you mention the Wii fit lol. I just got one a week ago. I love mine. I still take the kids to the park in the morning, and go on walks in good weather, but I love the way the Wii fit keeps track of everything-and I'm a gamer so you know-it's a plus lol. (I play other games when not tending to kids, doing graduate work, etc lol). Namaste-Anora
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@rsa101 (37958)
• Philippines
27 Apr 09
Although Ii too am a little overweight myself, I find the reasoning a bit logical because when you eat more you tend to make you carbon footprint contribution higher than those that eat less and healthy. Although I still believe that we are all contributing towards global warning in some ways other than what we eat and all of those things.
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• India
27 Apr 09
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• United States
28 Apr 09
RSA- I will credit you with saying that we are indeed all adding to the carbon footprint. What bothers me about the presentation of the one side is that they want federal intervention. We've already seen obese people paying more for airlines, what's next? I don't like the idea of the Gestapo stopping me for being slightly overweight and making me drop and do 20, or monitoring each time I split a dessert at a Restaurant with my husband. At my lowest I got down to 125 and have fought anorexia since I was 18. I put on weight the moment I started eating again because my body was in starvation mode, which for me is horrible. I just start getting help at age 36, so this type of stereotyping bothers me. And as the one pointed out, I don't see the "skinnies" promoting eco friendly lifestyles any more than obese people. To say that obese people are the only ones who use their cars more? Come on. Many people use their cars more than they should because they choose to work far away from where they live. Thanks for participating. Namaste-Anora
@KupoSin (680)
• United States
28 Apr 09
i dont believe that obesity is the main health concern, its the eating lifestyle. people these days eat too much fatty meats in contrast to the days in which eating meat was like a privilege. i have a fast metabolism that prevents me form gaining too much weight. nonetheless, i still watch what i eat. i understand that i can eat all the mcdonalds i want and not gain weight, but it will still damage my body. we need to raise more awareness of these problems. i remember for a while there were large awareness, but in the recent year, it seems forgotten in the mist of the economic crisis
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• United States
28 Apr 09
Kupo- I have no issues with raising awareness about healthy lifestyles. I have issues with targeting a specific group and making them pay more, etc simply because they are obese. That doesn't seem fair, and it seems almost well, gestapo like. I would hope we'd not have that in this country. In terms of awareness, I think that it's more then just stop eating McDonalds. We've got healthy foods that contain HFCS that are equally as bad for us. We eat entirely too many processed foods that are deemed "healthy" in this country. It's a very complex issue indeed. Namaste-Anora
@olydove (1209)
• United States
10 May 09
I am under the impression that "the blonde lady" truly believes she is well educated when in fact she hasn't even got a clue! I can not believe the audacity, I mean really to blame this whole situation on obese people because we " eat more food " and thus it causes more aviation emissions etc... please I probably eat less than she does! I have all the odds stacked against me, Obesity, diabetes, thyroid problems all run in my family. I myself have hypothyroidism which the doctors are still trying to get under control. People just don't have any idea that when almost everyone in a family is overweight it's not usually an issue of overeating. As I teenager I would walk an average of 5 miles per day, drink lots of ice water and eat fruit and veggies yet I was still overweight. I would like to attach a fat suit to that lady and let her wear it for one week and then see if she says we should pay out of pocket??? Well at any rate Happy Mothers Day to all!
• United States
10 May 09
Thanks so much for sharing. I agree, that people making these claims simply don't understand what we're really going through. And I'd love to see that lady wear a fat suit for an entire day and know just what sort of bigotry occurs every day. I would think that this sort of tax could be seen as illegal and prejudice. I hope it is soon removed. Namaste-Anora
• United States
27 Apr 09
After watching that video, I can honestly say that for the first time in my life... I am struck speechless. I can only scratch my head and wonder at the things that people with way to much time on their hands can come up with. *sigh*
• United States
28 Apr 09
I have to admit I didn't know what to say that I called my husband over last night and was like "Look at this, you're not going to believe this". I think he was as speechless as I was. So, I decided to be brave and put it out there for y'all on Mylot to see if anyone else had the same feelings that I did. I have to agree, some people do sadly have too much time on their hands. Thanks for the response. Namaste-Anora
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@miamilady (4910)
• United States
28 Apr 09
Sorry. I couldn't watch the video. I'm on dial up. What is a more proactive way to deal with obesity in this country? I'm not sure what more we could do. It seems to be a complicated problem. People are overweight for different reasons. Slow metabolism, low self esteem, injuries, poor eating habits, poor excercise habits are just a few reasons, I'm sure. How does one deal with this type of journalism and these types of research studies? I think there will always be lame studies and poor journalism. Not sure what we can do other than to just not support it and perhaps speak out against it. Have you struggled with weight? Somewhat. I've never been obese, but I've only been thin in my life for about FIVE MINUTES lol. I'm the "fat sister" in my family, although I am not "fat" by most people standards, I don't think. What are you doing or what does your doctor have you doing? Every time I even THINK about going on a diet I start to eat more, so I don't believe in "dieting" but I do believe in knowing which are healthy eating choices and I just TRY to remind myself to make better choices. I have moments where I started trying to excercise more and then I eventually stop. I'm really looking for those who can share proactively rather then how this particular news cast shared it. Let's try to think of solutions, rather then accusations, and let us all try to remember to be sensitive to others. Lack of sensitivity is a major problem, isn't it? I also thing that some people put far too much emphasis on the importance of "being thing". Of course the health risks that come along with obesity are a concern, but people oftentimes are overly concerned with weight simply for apperance sake.
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• United States
28 Apr 09
Thanks for the indepth response, even though you couldn't view the video. (Been on dial up before, it's a pain lol). I think you're right that we need to take into consideration the many factors that affect weight. I know from my own eating disorder struggles that once you've started eating after being in starvation mode your body packs on the weight and it will take years to equal out. And then add in genetic problems that people cannot control, well that's just stirring the caulderon. I think we should be looking more at things like HFCS and pulling that off the market completely. My husband read an article on Reuters health not too long ago talking about how we now know that HFCS changes our genetic structure, causing us to think we're still hungry. It literally changes it on the gene level so we're passing this on to our children who are then born with it. This said, the research conclusion? That we create a pill to target the messed up gene. I'm thinking, why not just pull HFCS off of the market? Thanks again for your shared stories, I enjoy reading what you have to add. Namaste-Anora
• United States
27 Apr 09
Geez. That woman is a moron! Obese people are the blame for everything according to her . Oh and if you are thin you are a champion of the environment!..LOL.. So basically from what I've heard in this video, these claims are just based on theories about overweight people. This blond woman surly does hate obese people. Stupid of her to go on Fox TV and not be able to validate any of her claims. She obviously is a hate monger and wants to spread her ignorance like a disease and if she has her say about it, she wants the government to make a law that makes overweight people pay higher taxes. Oh people are fat because they eat too much blah blah.. You know, I have known more overweight people who are obese because of thyroid problems and other health issues then actual overweight people who do nothing that eat all the time, which is usually the most common stereotypical claim to what causes obesity. Genetics also comes into play when a person is overweight also not all people can metabolize food as well as others, FACT!. I have a good friend that is really obese and this girl eats like a rabbit,she eats nothing but baked fish and fresh veggies daily and struggles to lose weight, she fears of becoming a diabetic because diabetes runs ramped in her family, but even though she eats healthy and light she lose very little weight, but she hangs in and tries like crazy to lose.Mind you, she has thyroid problems.In my opinion this blond fascist on the Fox video clip is doing nothing but spreading disinformation and hate.I bet her ideal of a perfect American society would be full of thin anorexics and bulimics .
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• United States
28 Apr 09
Thanks for the great response. I couldn't have said it better. It's really sad that there are people in this world intent on spreading misinformation, and that they really want to place the burden of the society on one group of people, or blame one group of people for all of the world's problems. You'd think that eventually we'd learn from our mistakes in history, but perhaps we never will. Namaste-Anora
• Canada
27 Apr 09
I just want to say im all for the fat people as a matter of fact .... I LOVE FAT PEOPLE..... so get over you're insecurities and just enjoy being fat!!!
• United States
28 Apr 09
Thanks for the compliments to our beautiful persons that inhabit this world. And as someone once told me, if there is an iceage or food shortage it will be those with a bit of extra fat on them who will survive lol. Namaste-Anora