Is the mind different from the thinker?
April 27, 2009 6:21am CST
Is the thinker different from his thought? Does the thinker exist without thought? Is there a thinker apart from thought? Stop thinking and where's the thinker? Is the thinker of one thought different from the thinker of another thought? Is the thinker separate fromhis thought or does thought create the thinker, who then identifies himself with thought when he finds it convenient, and separates himself when it is not convenient? That is "I" the thinker? Obviously the thinker is composed of various thoughts which have become identified as the the "me." So the thought produce the thinker, not the way round. If I have no thoughts, then there is no thinker, not that the thinker is different each time, but if there are no thoughts, then there is no thinker. So thoughts produce the thinker as action produce the actor. The actor does not produce action.
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27 Apr 09
Are you going down the path of "I think, therefore I am"? Sentience, the self-awareness thoughts divide us from what we consider to be animals. Would it rather be that a person who stops thinking degenerates into a animal? ...And if the actor does not produce the action - where does the action come from?
27 Apr 09
After thinking for several minutes the thought came into my head that I prefer to think that I can make sense of what you are trying to say but then again, maybe my own thoughts manipulate my perception of what your thinking is. ( now I'm thinking I don't understand what I am trying to say!) OK...seriously, I think the thinker does not exist without the thought. How can he? The subject of thinking, the object of thought and the action' thinking' all go together. One does not exist without the other. Its like saying ' does the thought ' exist without a thinker. NO ! The thinker is the medium through which a thought comes to life. A thought on its own cannot exist within a vacuum. and yes, the thinker is defined by his thoughts, yet vice versa the thoughts are coloured by the thinkers perception, life experience and genetic make up. so Its a symbiotic existence...one cannot exist without the other. However the questions remains whether thinking alone is enough or whether the expression of thoughts is crucial to satisfy the thinker. Does he need to have an agenda ( needing to express / self expression) or can the thinker be fulfilled without expression? ( My, this is fun!)