Swine flu origin

@clrumfelt (5490)
United States
April 28, 2009 10:54am CST
This morning I did a search on Yahoo and found the bloggers are fast at work covering the swine flu. Many of them are suggesting the disease could be a form of biological warfare manufactured by someone in a lab and then released into the general population. No investigations have confirmed this, but suspicions are ignited and there is some evidence to support them. Could it be? http://www.infowars.com/is-swine-flu-a-biological-weapon/
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
28 Apr 09
No, I believe they're wrong. Just off the top of my head, hitting the subway system in several major cities would have done a lot more damage than hitting Mexico. Infecting the water supply would be a little more difficult to achieve but hundreds of thousands use mass transit throughout this country daily and, since this flu has an incubation period of a couple of days, it would have been possible to infect the public numerous times before anyone even had a clue.
@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
28 Apr 09
I hope you are right.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
28 Apr 09
OMG, has Glenn Beck gotten wind of this yet? Hasn't he already said he believes this is a liberal plot to get Kathleen Sebelius confirmed as HHS Secretary? Seriously, anything is possible and the possibility of some kind of biological warfare is scary indeed, I kind of think it would be much more deadly and would it much quicker and harder if it this were true. Annie
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
29 Apr 09
I already posted this in another discussion where you made that allegation...lol! Sometimes I get information for Countdown that I hadn't seen elsewhere but I always confirm it. http://www.thedailybeast.com/video/item/glenn-becks-swine-flu-conspiracy-theory/ Annie
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@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
28 Apr 09
I don't think the liberals would unleash a deadly virus on the USA. I don't expect they will waste a crisis as an opportunity to get her confirmed if they can.
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
29 Apr 09
"OMG, has Glenn Beck gotten wind of this yet? Hasn't he already said he believes this is a liberal plot to get Kathleen Sebelius confirmed as HHS Secretary? " annie, stop getting your Beck from Olberman.
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@uath13 (8192)
• United States
29 Apr 09
It's not dangerous enough to actually have been engineered. True bio weapons are easily transmitted & would have a higher fatality rate. If terrorists had done this they would have tried to spread it more widely before the governments could even try to act to contain it. They wouldn't do a "test" because that would let everyone know what they had & be prepared.
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@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
1 May 09
That makes a lot of sense unless they were testing the readiness of the USA to deal with that TYPE of threat by releasing a lesser threat to begin with. You're right there are a lot more lethal and quicker spreading bio. weapons already in existence and a true attack likely would be one of them.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
28 Apr 09
Who is making it then? I thought it was a disease that crossed species, and this was the result. And is this another, "blame America, they made this biological weapon?" Sounds like something out of Fringe. What would be the purpose of this, I wonder? The only beneficial one is that someone is working on a vaccine that would cure all flu disease and they had to mix all the germs together to test it out. And that someone, like a terrorist or a hate people stole it and was planning to release it into the general population and charge large sums of money for the cure that only he had. Sounds like a good science fiction movie.
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@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
29 Apr 09
I agree. Even though the possibility is out there there are just too many things about it that don't add up to link it to any kind of biological terrorism. It's amazing what the imagination will do with something like this once the can of worms is opened. You're right, it does sound like a science fiction movie.
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
29 Apr 09
I think the main thing driving the thoughts that it is engineered is that it is an unlikely, if not almost impossible hybrid of 3 distinctly different flu types and that the department of homeland security and a terrorist task force are the ones out in front right now handling this instead of the department of health and human services and the surgeon general. If it is a bio-weapon, it isn't a very good one though is it.
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@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
29 Apr 09
That makes a lot of sense. Homeland security usually doesn't handle cases of health issues. Maybe the focus will shift now that Obama's health and human services director has been confirmed.
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• United States
29 Apr 09
You are always going to have people think the government or a "lab" is behind everything bad. I don't think that. But lets be honest....people are scared. This swine flu seems to spreadly fast and in Mexico has killed a lot of people. NOw new cases here in US are popping up left and right. The health department already said they expect a few deaths to result from it but that so far everyone who has it seems to be ok and just has a mild case. But that could change. Especially in the very young or old. Depending on how bad things get....people will only get more scared and come up with wilder accusations. It surprises me no one has blamed this on Bush yet. They blame him for everything else.
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@rsa101 (37968)
• Philippines
29 Apr 09
As I said inm y previous post of this same topic it is possible to make it in a lab. But, viruses can be very much adapt easily from one host to another given certain condition they can easily mutate from animal to human infection. The theory that it is human made is yet to be proven and until then more evidence should be presented to proved that it indeed came out from a laboratory.
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@cher913 (25782)
• Canada
28 Apr 09
i highly doubt this. i think everyone is speculating and just like 9/11, the people that do the most speculating are the most wrong. besides, this is news and the spin doctors try to get every angle, even if it is fiction.
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@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
29 Apr 09
The "what ifs" can give them lots of angles but everything must be taken with a grain of salt when reading about them.
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@grammasnook (1871)
• United States
28 Apr 09
Things are flying and people are worried about bio warfare dont they realize that terrorist think on a larger scale. If they wanted to do a biological warfare I am sure they can get many more people sick at one time than one popping up here and there. They would hit the water supply to a huge city like houston where many people travel day in and day out. Although I think it should be looked into I do not believe it is bio-warfare, I believe it is a strand of the flu that has hit us once before in the 70's. No reason for a panic, just another way for the media to spit out some of the information without the rest leaving us to fill in the gaps and let the minds go crazy
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@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
28 Apr 09
I agree. It is best to stay positive and and alert and not worry unless some concrete evidence is found or the virus situation gets worse than it is now.
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@apples99 (6556)
• United States
29 Apr 09
Well whatever's going on I just hope that our government health department can get things under control becuse this whole swine flue thing is starting to give me the creeps, there has been some reports of some deaths connected to this flue, and I just pray that this thing is stopped before it gets out of control.
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@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
29 Apr 09
You, me and probably a lot of other people are praying the Lord will protect the world from this disease. We could sure use the His help in getting past this.
@eztuner (450)
• United States
28 Apr 09
Even thou everything is possible, I think people is just letting their imagination fly, when terrorist orchestrate an attack they want the world to know that they did it, that's part of the terror. This is an act of Nature itself and we need to take charge by doing what needs to be done.
@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
29 Apr 09
I agree. It's much better to concentrate on solving the problem than speculating about what caused it. Keeping people alive and well is job #1.
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• United States
28 Apr 09
As trustworthy as they might be, I'm very hesitant to trust a group of average people typing away at their computers when it comes to the swine flu origins. Especially when the investigation is, as you said, still under way. I'll wait until the investigation is complete and I hear from officials before I'll believe it started as anything like that.
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@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
28 Apr 09
Good point. Lots of conspiracy theories are launched on blogs and it's best to take everything you read with a grain of salt.
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@mimimeow (295)
• Hong Kong
29 Apr 09
haha, that's a joke. Biological weapon which is unsure to kill? That's not very efficient, is that? And kicking off from Mexico too. If I am the terrorist, I will start in New York instead. Wild imagination.
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@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
1 May 09
Good points, all of them. Somebody suggested maybe this is a test run to see how the USA would handle such a threat, but I consider that unlikely as well.
@kaleem_jr (106)
• Pakistan
1 May 09
I don't know much about this. But I think this is only because of human un-natural behaviour towards the nature. We have lost our esteen. These things are the result of human animal love making.
@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
1 May 09
No one really knows it origin. Human, swine and avian flu viruses have all contributed to the formation of the H1N1. Bestiality doesn't make a lot of sense to me on this. Thanks for commenting.
@Celanith (2327)
• United States
29 Apr 09
I am not surprised at all that this could be a possibilty. We are living in the end times. There is always men doing some evil thing to hurt someone else. Back in the 80's the Bagwan dude and his little nasty lady went in and poisoned the salad bar in the Dalles, OregonBurgerville USA a popular hamburger place. One my own family often frequented, making many people violently ill and hospitalizing them. We thankfully had not gone there that week. The governments can test biological warfare on small segements of society to see what results will occur and the effect. They have done it. Americans are some of the biggest target of trial and error ingesting tons of medications that might cause more harm than good. But we swallow it right down anyway guiena pigs for the pharmecudical companies. What's a few deaths here or there the same can be said for biological warfare. Try it in one area and see what happens. Then use it to panic the World into getting some vaccination at a high cost and equipment at a high cost, and watch the dollars roll in. The last big money maker was the might happen Bird Flu. I am not saying this is not real and cannot harm it can. But the timing, the area and the numbers sick and dying and the age all makes me wonder highly. Here is a video clip from what Senator Ron Paul has to say about it. Please visit the blog at blog.myspace.com/ronpaul to view Congressman Paul's most recently statement about the recent swine flu scare.
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@gracie04 (4549)
• Philippines
29 Apr 09
Actually, i have thought about it as well.. maybe the terrorists have something to do with it, yay! they have created a form of biological warfare and released it to harm the lives of people. The Swine Flu virus is frightening, big time! it can take away a person's life in a span of 3-5 days! let us all pray that this virus will come to an end very soon!
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@sblossom (2168)
29 Apr 09
I don't know but I will keep my eye open on the progress of the Swine flu. The world is never in peace. I still remember the SAAS that seems happend yesterday. Best regards.