Presidents

@iriscot (1289)
United States
May 3, 2009 9:49am CST
These are considered by most people who consider achievements as being the best Presidents of the U.S.A. In what order do you rate them? 1. George Washington - Father of our country 2. Abraham Lincoln - A Republican... some consider the greatest 3. Franklin Delano Roosevelt - A Democrat who turned around the economy in the 1930s You will notice I have in my listing one Republican and one Democrat. I thought this survey might be interesting. George Washington who led the Colonists to victory durin the Revolutionary War and who wouldn't accept being "King" of the new republic and served only two 4 year terms. Abraham Lincoln a lawyer from Illinois who was president during the Civil War and who abolished slavery. Franklin Delano Roosevelt... some consider to be the greatest because of his "New Deal", another Wartime President who was elected after the Hoover adminstration did nothing to bring our country out of a deep depression. If you don't agree with my picks, put together you own choices to see how they stand up amongst us Mylotters. I just thought this would be very interesting and something for us to write about.
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• United States
3 May 09
I think the Lincoln was the best president. He did his best to end slavery. He did not use slaves unlike George Washington.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
4 May 09
"He wound up freeing the slaves three years into the Civil War, as a political expedient." Slaves were already free in the North which is where he was president. He couldn't very well free slaves in the south at the beginning of the civil war.
• United States
3 May 09
Well, Lincoln was not a big abolitionist. It was never his intention to end slavery. He wound up freeing the slaves three years into the Civil War, as a political expedient. It was the right thing to do, but it's not like Lincoln had made it a campaign promise or anything.
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@mlh8087 (368)
• United States
3 May 09
I think your picks were very well thought out. I noticed that these picks were from way back in the past; none of latest presidents have impressed you. I thought Reagan did okay.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
3 May 09
I think it's hard to put the latest presidents in the top three because none of them were confronted with issues like founding the nation, slavery, and the great depression. Reagan was a great president, and did have to manage the Cold War and the biggest recession since the Great Depression, but we haven't had enough time pass since then for him to be immortalized the way those listed have.
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@mlh8087 (368)
• United States
3 May 09
That sounds reasonable. I know the presidents I didn't like. They were Clinton and Carter. I was not impressed by their time in office.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
3 May 09
Well your top two are huge. They have history, major obstacles, and major accomplishments behind them, not to mention that both their birthdays became holidays before some jerk decided to combine them into president's day. Roosevelt I have to disagree with in a major way. I rank him down with Andrew Jackson as a tyrant who ignored the constitution, bullied the other branches of government, and prolonged the depression. Of course, those paled in comparison to what he did to American citizens. I'm baffled by how many people couldn't care less about the fact that he put AMERICAN CITIZENS into concentration camps based solely on their heritage. Here we have people calling Bush a war criminal, saying he should be tried for treason, and a whole rash of other things because they disagree with how he treated terrorists hell bent on destroying our nation. Many of those same people don't give a crap about what FDR did to innocent, taxpaying citizens who weren't even SUSPECTED of a crime. Nobody since Andrew Jackson had shown such callousness towards innocent civilians in our own country, or their own country for Andrew Jackson. I think it's sad the way people aren't taught the truth about FDR and he is glorified as the man who was in office when the Great Depression ended. So in his place I would put either James K. Polk or Dwight Eisenhower.
@Adoniah (7513)
• United States
3 May 09
I agree with Washington and Lincoln, but not Roosevelt. I think Reagan did a good job. It is really hard to come up with anyone else that really did a great job. There were a few that were just middle of the roaders that did no harm. I liked Teddy Roosevelt for his conservation efforts. John Quincy Adams was an interesting President. He was actually elected by the House of Representatives because there was a 3 way tie. He pushed for education. Shalom~Adoniah
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• United States
3 May 09
I would agree with your first two but would severely disagree with FDR in the number 3 spot. FDR was a very scary President. He played extremely loose and easy with the U.S. Constitution. He made severe attacks on personal freedoms, property rights, freedom of speech, and of course the placing of thousands of legal U.S. citizens and children into internment camps. I believe that he gets way too much credit in regards to the Great Depression. The Depression took longer to end under FDR than any other economic downturn including the depressions of the 1800s. European nations suffered shallower and shorter downturns than the U.S. did under FDR. His biggest achievement with the economy may be the establishment of social security which may best be described as the biggest ponzi scheme in world history. I do give FDR for being a good war time President in regards to overall management. He was also inspiring for those he was not oppressing. I would suggest Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, Ronald Reagan, Thomas Jefferson, or James Madison as possible number 3.
@iriscot (1289)
• United States
3 May 09
It's strange that so many people criticize FDR concerning the Depression. We wouldn't have been in one if the Republicans in power at that time had cared a little more about the general populise and not big business. I lived throught the depression as a depression baby being born in March of 29. I saw what it was like, our whole family moved into one house in order to have a place to live, this included my aunts, uncles, grandmother and grandfather plus 3 other kids. FDR put people back to work in government projects and those workers were thankful to have some sort of income instead of begging on the street corners and trying to sell some of their belongings in order to put food on the table for their families. Evidently most people on mylot who criticizze FDR never went through the great depression and don't have an inkling what it was like. FDR turned things around and got people working again.
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• United States
4 May 09
Iriscot, It sounds like you are very emotionally wrapped in FDR. I can respect that because you lived through the event and FDR was a great PR person for himself. But history often shows that the facts are quite different from the feelings of the time. People from the same time period in Germany thought that Hitler was the solution to all of their problems. I am not comparing FDR's problems being anywhere near the level of Hitler's but just to show that people living the events are not always the best judge in the end. The fact remains that the Depression started in 1929 and ended with WWII in 1941. So with FDR's inauguration in 1933, he presided over 8 years of depression. This is much longer than what these events usually last. This is with the destruction of the beginning of WWII leading to increased industrial production as a result of military orders from Europe. With that being the case, how can the argument be made that his policies hastened the end of the Depression. The other facts remain as well. Even though you have positive feelings about FDR, your family may have felt quite different if all of you had been thrown into an internment camp because of your race. The results of FDR's economic policies can be argued by people of good conscience but how can anyone ever defend his hideous actions of locking up thousands of innocent men, women and children. He treated the Constitution like toilet paper.
@rzrback (107)
• United States
3 May 09
1. Lincoln-Easily the best in my mind. 2. Washington-As you said the Father of our country 3. FDR-Did a great job under power.
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
3 May 09
Wahsington, good for his time, liberty minded, served his nation proudly. Lincoln, mixxed. He was probably one of our more tyranical presidents next to Bush and FDR. FDR, a guy who through trying to save the economy, prolonged things greatly, and as I said above, was a bit of a tyrant. He suspended constitutional rights on american citizens and forcefully confiscated gold as well as granted the federal reserve and world bank more power than they should have had.