What Women Want - A Venusian Perspective
By hellcord
@hellcord (673)
Romania
May 7, 2009 9:34am CST
I remember a few years ago, I was watching a seminar from Ross Jeffries that I had bootlegged off the net, and was unimpressed with most of it, thought that it just wasted some good hours of my life.
But some time after, one thing he said came up in my head and stayed with me to this very day.
I think if you know nothing about women, this piece of knowledge can save your a$$ in most situations, and also can put you on the right way, to learn everything you need to know.
Here is the bit, as I remember it:
Who cares what women want ? Really, who cares ? They won't tell you what they really want, and even if they do, they're lying.
Here's the deeper explanation:
There are 3 distinct answers to what women want, that is, 3 levels of understanding this question, and its answer:
1. What women tell YOU, as a man, that they want. This is most of the time the furthest from the truth as you can possibly get.
2. What they believe in their head, that they want. And finally, and most important,
3. What they respond to.
Then from that point on Ross goes on to say that you can positively IGNORE the first 2, as they are truly meaningless. I'm sure many of you ladies out there can relate to this, to all those times you liked the very very wrong guy, even though you didn't WANT to (Level 2) and guys that just pissed you off all the time, as they just ignored levels 1 and 2 and didn't play nice, or polite, but the attraction was nevertheless so ON with them, that it was just amazing. The heat was there, the fun, the feeling. Right ? :D
So from here, with some study, much stuff can be deduced, things like why and how talking to women for 2 hours at a bar has minimal effect, where one hug or a kiss might just do wonders, what to aim for on a date, how to take with a grain of salt anything that a girl says especially when the body responses are telling a different story, and finally, how, no matter what a girl says, you simply CANNOT, as a guy, believe she truly likes you, until you actually GET the goods :D
I would add, how the skills that various geeks and nerds are lacking, the reasons they get no action, are not that much intellectual skills, from the mind, learnable from a book, but skills of the body, of posture, voice, breathing and so on, creating an attitude, energy and responses around them, not text and clever talking.
Oppinions, ladies ? Guys ?
All the best,
- hellcord
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3 responses
@arkansos (545)
• India
7 May 09
Well, I remember a line from P.S I love you that I will quote here.
This is the scene where a guy asks the protagonist about what exactly women want?
She says "I'll let you in on a secret....We have no idea what we want"
Women and men don't think similarly in all cases. While women prefer to be subjective , men are more objective in their choices. So a girl might say "Oh my God he speaks like an angel...such a sweet voice.... He's my guy" A guy thinks "Nice face, flat tummy, nice figure and she's showing cleavage. ya I think I'll go with her"
You need to figure out what works. You will however figure out over the net what doesn't work
@arkansos (545)
• India
7 May 09
Okay don't scold me. I agree with you completely. Quality girls never say what they want. They expect men to figure that out for themselves. Wich most people don't. Which is why you'll often see girls going around with jerks, making you wonder what she saw in him
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@hellcord (673)
• Romania
7 May 09
yes of course we look at different things :D
the post is taking it a bit further and does this:
you ask a girl what's her idea of a great guy, what they like in a man, and then you get a description, a list of things they like.
physical, mental, emotional etc. then you come back in a few years and ask her who she was happiest with, in her relationships, and she will point out a few guys
now here's the thing: some of those guys might have few or even NONE of the things that were on the list she initially gave you. does that make sense ?
Furthermore if you look closer it can be shown (or is obvious to begin with) that the description she gives you when you ask is NOT necessarily the description she knows / believes in her head.
So the one she gives you is level 1, the one she thinks about is level 2, and the actual guys she was happy with, that's the truth, level 3.
While the distinction between 1 and 2 is obvious, I think the one between 2 and 3 is way harder to notice, and it will give birth to all sorts of contradictory behavior sometimes.
Anyway do you agree that staying open and aware to this sort of thing, verbal response versus body language response from a girl, is a very useful thing?
I find that if you spot differences, between 1,2 and 3, if you can point out to a girl where she responded very nice to something (3), but believes it in her head to be bad (2), once you notice contradictory behavior, you have a choice of what to do with it, go one way or the other, and simplify things quite a bit, so there's less stress and misunderstandings happening :D
@luvandpower (2048)
• United States
7 May 09
I am not sure I fully agree with all of that to be honest.
Even though I am a male, hence I could never fully understand the female anatomy. However, females and males do think a lot alike. We all go for the wrong person at points our life. And sometimes, even maybe, after your married it happens again through an affair.
@hellcord (673)
• Romania
7 May 09
hi, and thanks for the response :D
with what part don't you agree specifically ?
The main point of the post is just pointing at that 'tip of the iceberg' model, that many of our motivations and drives are hidden, even from ourselves. It's not about the right or wrong person, it's more about the fact that we don't really know what we like, and what we think in our heads about ourselves in not always what actually happens in the field.
For example a girl might tell you on a first conversation that she's looking for a man with stability, but in fact in her head she might just be dreaming about a manly man with dark hair and strong looks and convictions, and then she might fall in love with a funny short guy that's very open and not very impressive financially, but makes her feel exceptionally great.
I'm saying that women, perhaps more than men, do not know what they will actually love until they see it
@luvandpower (2048)
• United States
7 May 09
I think it just is the factor that it is designated at females more than men.
As a male I can clarify that we are the very same way( we just don't like to admit it, so we mask it behind stubborness.) For example, a male might go up to a female and be like " I want a girl who likes to have some actions" yet, in their mind they are looking fro some fat chick. ( fat chicks are so hot...lol)
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@hellcord (673)
• Romania
8 May 09
Yeah so that's the difference between 1 and 2, guy says something but in his head is thinking Fat Chicks! right ?
Here's the main difference: most of the time that guy REALLY likes fat chicks, as in, his 2 and 3 (what he thinks he likes and what he really truly likes and responds to) are THE SAME.
Whereas a woman might SAY tall dark hair guy, THINK short funny bald guy, but in reality she's into redheaded midgets or something, it later turns our :P
Ok a little extreme example, but that's what I'm pointing at. We say to girls we like brains, in our head we think we like nice T1ts, and then we REALLY like t1ts, we don't play mindgames with ourselves that much :P
@Tonton01 (235)
• Philippines
8 May 09
Not all the time y'learn from videos or e-books, but it's through the experience you go through in the field.
My one rule is that: Always say things in subtlety. Even talking to a stranger for a long time, it all took subtlety and placement in words when it came to stories. Field testing helps you in massive proportions. :)
As long as you got her attention, never let go of it.
@Tonton01 (235)
• Philippines
8 May 09
And, I agree that women don't exactly imply what they say, rather something else is implied.
Like if she said she wants to meet a "gentle kind guy",but then gets the exact opposite. It' not, only their subconsciousness can tell us of what's true and such.
