which is better: associated content or helium?

@csrobins (1120)
United States
May 9, 2009 1:00am CST
I have scoured the internet for teh best writing sites for people who want to get published or are at least serious writers...fo rthe intenet. I have tried triond, bukisa, reviewstream, ciao, and others and have narrowed it down to two sites. I like helium and I like associatedcontent. Heliumk has a lot of features and things while associated content seems clear and simple yet, professional and serious. weighing in how much money each one brings in, the amount of time needed on each one, the best one to "get discovered" or published elsewhere, and other features teh sites offer, which one do you think is better?
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12 responses
9 May 09
Both are good, if that's your market. AC has the better upfront deal and it's a LOT easier to earn regularly - they don't have any requirements of reviewing content or anything, so you just publish and watch the page views. Helium is considered "higher quality", but it gets less than half the traffic of AC (if I remember right). Writers are also forced to rate other articles to get paid (10 every 30 days or something). That's annoying. The Helium Marketplace, however, is definitely worth a look: you can rake in some serious cash from there. One word of caution: I have seen it said - often - that a lot of people who pay for freelance writers look down on the article directories (AC, Helium, HubPages, Squidoo, Bukisa, Triond and others). They consider them slave labour and anyone who writes for them as lower quality. I have NOT run into this attitude myself, but I thought it best to mention the warnings I've heard. None of those sites are considered to be for "serious" writers, either. The serious folks tend to aim for better-paying marketplaces like Constant-Content, the freelancing sites (of which there are many) and direct proposals from publishers. Nice money, I would imagine - if you can get it!
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@csrobins (1120)
• United States
9 May 09
Hmm..good to know! What do you mean-people look down on freelance writers? Like it's difficult to get noticed from potential professional publishers? I am unsure how much they would like me anyways...maybe I could join AC just to get the feel of things and experiment with my success with that one, then maybe I will feel "good enough" to look at the constant-content one and others you mentioned. Professionals would never have to know I used to be on triond, ac, etc right?
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9 May 09
Like I said, I haven't run into that attitude myself, but I've conversed with people who have. I think it's more like a snobbishness, similar to the different between "real" and "tabloid" journalism, if you see what I mean. AC doesn't require any editing. It doesn't have any quality filters. You go there, you post, it's published. Anyone can do it (and if you look around a bit, there is definitely some crap on there, as well as some truly wonderful writing). Because it has no editing standards, it may be seen as sub-standard. That's my guess, anyway. You could still publish there (I have), but maybe avoid bringing it up as the best thing you've done, or use a different pen-name or something if you want to be a touch paranoid!!
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@csrobins (1120)
• United States
11 May 09
Cool, thanks that's what I wanted to know!
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@paid2write (5201)
9 May 09
You can submit to both sites. I think it depends on how productive you are as a writer. If you only write an occasional article you may do better at AC. At Helium you need to build up a good stock list and to gain stars before earnings really start to kick in. I am happy with what I've achieved, and continue to achieve, at Helium. There I sell some of my articles to other publishers as well as having a good number of articles earning daily income from page views. Both sites offer upfront payments if you are in the USA. At Helium these payments are based on number of writing stars, and you have to be active in the rating system.
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@csrobins (1120)
• United States
11 May 09
Yeah, I don't have a lot of time on my hands right now so I think it's gonna be AC. I would love to do something more involved eventually or both like you siad thanks!
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• United States
10 May 09
My personal experience is that Associated Content pays more with much less effort. By less effort, I'm not talking about the quality of the article written,I'm talking about the fact that you do not have to rate other articles and such in order to keep at a certain pay level. Your pay is based solely on what you write, how well you write and how many page views your material receives. There are also assignments you can claim and receive upfront payments. If your writing is considered of a certain high quality, you are considered for higher paying assignments which may be picked up by other news organizations, such as Reuters...etc. What I love about AC is the fact that articles I published on the site 2 years ago are still earning money for me...and some of them fairly substantial amounts. My amount increases daily, whether I have added material or not. I will go back and check my old content and it is easy to see which articles are making the most money for me. This gives me an idea of what people enjoy reading. I can see where money can be made with Helium...but it seems to be very time consuming. They have a lot of contests and various publishers who may pick up an article, but the competion is fierce and the money seems to pay out much less on regular articles than on AC
@csrobins (1120)
• United States
11 May 09
Very intersting about pages still earning money two years later..thanks for your input!
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@marcialoyd (1173)
• United States
9 May 09
Each site has their own perks. I prefer associated content. You make more in upfront payments on AC and my page views do well as well. However, if you are a very talented writer there is alot of money to be made in the helium marketplace. Many of the articles there pay upwards of $80. So I believe each one has their own uniqueness.
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@csrobins (1120)
• United States
11 May 09
Hmmm...the lazy person in me wants to do AC while the hard worker with drive wants to go for helium...ha thanks!
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@zhuhuifen46 (3483)
• China
11 May 09
I was on helium for some time, and feel it is a very good site to learn, both in language and in the respective fields. One issue for me is the difficulty to find where to post my articles. I did twice and was told in the wrong link and deleted, which is frustrating. Good to know recently that they are making improvements to help links on the front page. I would have another try. And Associated content is also attracting to me.
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@Canellita (12029)
• United States
12 May 09
You may want to sign up for a mentor on helium. That way you can show someone your article first and they can give you guidance on the proper area in which to post. Some things get lost in translation and English has a lot of words that have similar meaning but different context. I see this same kind of confusion in myLot discussions often.
@csrobins (1120)
• United States
13 May 09
Very interesting..So from what I've gathered thus far, helium is better in the long run and associated content provides immediate rewards...both are good to be informed about.
@Toofancy (548)
• United States
9 May 09
I write for both, but have done better money-wise (so far) with Helium. That is based on the fact that I put forth more effort on that site and I also have a referral that I make money from. However, I can see where AC would bring more money due to the up front payment. Most of the work I have posted on AC appears on other sites, so it is not exclusive, and did not pay an up front payment. The one exclusive article I did for AC paid a nice up front (and immediate) payment. Lately I have taken a break from writing for either site. Let's call it writer's block, I guess. The only writing I have done lately is on MyLot (discussions and tasks). I hope to get back into the swing of writing for both sites soon.
@csrobins (1120)
• United States
13 May 09
Yeah, same here just mylot thanks for responding!
@cudamani (996)
• India
13 May 09
Both are good sites.
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@amirev777 (4117)
• India
11 May 09
hi i think helium has committed grave injustice to members of some international countries like mine for example by bltantly suspending their account-i had submitted 5 articles which were accepted by helium-and one fine day i try to log into helium and i just cannot log in since the facilty is denied to members from my country-i try to contact them but am unable.but i think AC is good in that respect-i have submitted nearly 50 articles in AC and i dont make much,usually 3-4 USD, but they regularly credit my paypal account.
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@zed_k4 (17589)
• Singapore
19 May 09
I am not sure about which is better. However, I have not yet tried Associated Content. I have been paid by Helium once, but have ceased participation totally because I just don't have time for it and I am not quite 100% dedicated to the site. If you have the extra time and luxury, you could focus your time there and perhaps you can be successful like the rest. However, I am not really into it at this moment. I heard lots of good things about AC, but then again, international members aren't paid unless for page views. Hope this helps.
@zed_k4 (17589)
• Singapore
22 May 09
It works for some, but not for others. Great for those that can make it work, that's cool.
@csrobins (1120)
• United States
22 May 09
Yes, I hear the same things about helium...good to know since Idon't really have the time either
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@jakeb1 (562)
• United States
11 May 09
I have not been a member of helium but I am a member of associated content and you could earn some serious money with upfront payments and performance payments. From everyone that I have heard, AC is the better site than helium.
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@Canellita (12029)
• United States
12 May 09
I have to say that in the short time I have been a member I have found helium to be a frustrating experience often. I did not understand how things worked initially and therefore my initial experience wasn't that great. I now have a better understanding of how the site works but if I had started out at Associated Content first I might never have signed up at helium. One thing I like about Associated Content is that you can submit pictures with your article. Not being able to do so at helium is the main thing that initially delayed my posting my articles to them. My first article at Associated (my only so far) was on a local festival and I asked for upfront payment. They responded with an offer of $4 and said I could still get performance payments. I accepted and started posting photo slide shows to increase my page views. I also like the fact that AC allows for audio and video posts. I plan to start posting to those categories soon as well. I haven't had a published byline recently enough to count so helium and AC are an advantage for me to showcase my writing and posting articles regularly keeps the writing "chops" up. I didn't like the idea of posting competitive articles at helium because I thought it was a waste of time writing to titles that already had articles. You can't get rated without doing it though and it does have some advantages.
@Canellita (12029)
• United States
14 May 09
page views = performance chops = writing skills
@csrobins (1120)
• United States
13 May 09
What are performance payouts? I like the idea of getting a small amount upfront and getting paid per view as well. And also, what is “chops” up mean?
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• United States
31 Aug 09
I am a fan of ac over helium. A new site i started getting into last month was textbroker. They have articles that pay for 2-10 bucks. I made about 100 bucks in 10 days, but lately they have not had any articles up for grabs.