Imaginary Victims

United States
May 15, 2009 7:47am CST
I see it all the time, here at mylot and out in the world, somebody does something bad to innocent people and when they are caught they cry that they are victims who are "under fire" unjustly. A person goes and LIES about somebody, and when they are called out on their LIES, suddenly it's "Oh, poor me, I'm getting picked on!" A person for no reason that is apparent goes and hurts somebody who has done nothing to them and when folks rightfully express their outrage, the aggressor cries, "Boo hoo, everyone is so mean!" If you walk up to somebody, perhaps even a friend, and punch them in the face (or stab them in the back) and that person turns around and kicks your butt, whose fault is it? If you go around spreading outrageous lies and vicious slander and people figure out that you are LYING, whose fault is it that people now have a problem with you?
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• United States
15 May 09
*standing ovation!* this HAS to be the greatest and truest piece I've seen written on mylot!!! EVER! I've not only had the chance to see such people.... but I've been attacked by them for no apparent reason.. THANK GOD I have friends that stand up for me and knew the accusations were lies. *hugs Mare tightly* I would be lost without you, girl! I would!
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• United States
15 May 09
I feel the same way about you! the day I stumbled on this site and found you was one of the biggest blessings I've ever stumbled upon. You have always been more than a friend to me.... you are my hero :)
• Canada
15 May 09
I think you are a pretty darn cool chick, too, Stormy. I haven't known you that long, but I have ALWAYS enjoyed reading what you write. You are one of the REAL people, not a fake. And you have the most AWESOME sense of humour.
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• United States
15 May 09
I would go through hell and back for you if you needed me to! You mean a whole lot to me and my life is better with you in it, I hope you never forget that.
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@rebelmel (1386)
• United States
15 May 09
I am actually in kind of a similar situation right now. I was a victim of home invasion a week before christmas, and ever since, I have not forgotten what the mysterious man looked like. Since then, I have seen him twice, and both times he intimidingly taunted me on the street. The second time I had him arrested and I am supposed to testify. But he is saying it wasn't him and he doesn't understand why an innocent man is going to be on trial. Not to mention he had priors. Also, not to mention he gave me dirty looks and pointed me out to his friends right before he was arrested. It's like, Don't whine that you're being treated unfairly, because YOU treated ME unfairly. He stole a LOT of money and valuable things when he robbed me, of course I am going to remember his face!
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@mysdianait (66005)
• Italy
15 May 09
It's bad enough when it happens online but your story of an offline situation must be so distressing to have to live with I hope this person gets what he deserves!
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• United States
15 May 09
Oh my gosh! I am so sorry that happened to you! What a sick cruel SOB to then taunt you and point you out to his friends. I hope that you get your justice and that miscreant is put away for a long time. You will be in my thoughts, stay safe. Thank you for sharing your story.
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@rebelmel (1386)
• United States
15 May 09
That's okay. I am awaiting trial. I have not yet been threatened or anything, but I am surely watching my back at all times. Thank you for wishing the best for me!
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@mysdianait (66005)
• Italy
15 May 09
I see it too Kitty, and here I see it a lot I have been a victim of it too but as I believe in people and right and wrong and karma and all the good things I just carry on convinced that all eventually goes back to where it started from and things get set straight. If that doesn't happen then I'm fine just the same because I know that the lies that were told were untruths and I live happily ever after with no problems at all Those who do this kind of stuff have problems, big problems, and probably are too sick or too proud to admit it. I feel sad for them but only up to a point. I do not help their mission, claiming innocent victims and upsetting the lives of others just to get their kicks or get their name mentioned more often. I see the outcome of the deeds, the damage they do and it is so so sad that, just because they have the loudest voice, they get heard. Those people only read what they want to read, only see what they want to see and hear what they want to hear. They wouldn't understand this post just as they didn't/don't understand that their actions are evil - the others are 'bad' not them. I don't get your notifiers
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@mysdianait (66005)
• Italy
15 May 09
Sadly there are some who, once they get caught in their 'web', treat them as heroes... until they then get hurt themselves when the real situation comes out in the open.
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• United States
15 May 09
I don't get anybody's notifiers, cuz I keep 'em all off, my email box is clogged enough. I just use the "friends started" and "from my interests" here. Thanks for a great contribution to this discussion, I agree that there is something seriously wrong with those people, but I'm not about to let them get away with hurting innocent people - especially my friends.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
15 May 09
Well someone has clearly gotten your goat today! But I have a sneaking suspicion that I know who. I am not fond of folk that spread falsehoods and innuendo about others either. I have been very fortunate that in my time here I have rarely been on the receiving end of any such rubbish. However, "s/he that lives by the sword shall die by the sword" and in my view if anyone is so small minded that they need to spread such rubbish then perhaps they need to look to themselves first. Otherwise they deserve everything that they get!
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• United States
15 May 09
Thanks for you post! For the record, nobody has done anything to me (that I am aware of), people who don't like me may actually have a good reason for it, and I'm fine with that. You can't please everyone! It just irks me when I see somebody who has gone out of their way to hurt innocent people turn around and cry that they are the victim after they've been called out for their lies and slander.
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• Canada
15 May 09
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• Canada
15 May 09
Yes, I agree. When someone does something to you, you have every right to fight back. I'm pretty sure that the law is pretty clear on that. You are allowed to defend yourself. You know, people like that don't last long in circles of friends. They usually go around befriending unsuspecting people, only to brag about how many friends they have, but in reality, they have NO REAL FRIENDS at all! Since most are just there to spy on them. I'm not like that. I'm pretty open and honest about my feelings. I'm the 'heart on my sleeve' type of person. I can't seem to hide very much. Good post, MSV.
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• United States
15 May 09
I'm just me too! no one else wanted to be me... so I took the job!
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• Canada
15 May 09
Yep, us REAL people out last them in the end. We may get a bit outspoken occasionally, and get in a bit of ka ka for it, but at least it is honest ka ka, not false sympathy based on lies.
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• United States
15 May 09
Thanks! I am too lazy to be anyone other than myself. I think you make a good point, the sort of folks this discussion refers too will eventually isolate themselves as others tire of their nonsense and seek to disassociate themselves from it.
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@chillpill90 (1936)
15 May 09
i agree with you i mean surely when someone lies they should always realise there is a chance that they might get found out? but i suppose they cover it up again to try and convince people that they weren't lieing in the first place. But no your absolutely right i mean if you been spreadin rumors about someone and they find out you wont be surprised if they dont want to know you. I hate it wen people spread stuff about people and then pretend they aint done nothing wrong.
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• United States
15 May 09
Thanks for the reply, I hate it when that happens too, it is just so WRONG!
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15 May 09
i know it is can i ask what made you start this discussion?
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• United States
15 May 09
I saw some liars who got caught in their lies acting all offended and victimized because they got caught and refuse to take ownership for what they'd done.
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• United States
15 May 09
I'm keeping an eye on several people right now. There have been two other discussions - one that I'm sure this one has a relation with, & the other, on someone that was also causing trouble by spamming once someone accepted his friends request. There are those times I wish I had gotten those extra buttons, but maybe it's for the better, or it might just put a much too speedy end to whatever fun that might be had. At the same time, I ended up having more friends that seem like good people that I believe just added you as well. Oh - yeah - & with a song titled "Tomorrow" annoyingly playing in their heads. One of those friend's name had this annoyingly playing in my head ... ... tomorrow You're always A day A way! Oopsie - is it now playing in your head too? Probably not - you were probably expecting it.
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• Canada
15 May 09
HIYA! You're a pretty darn cool Klingon, if you ask me!
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• United States
15 May 09
LOL, yes I do kind of expect it form you, you KrazyKlingon!
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
16 May 09
I hate this too. I will say that I am not a mean person. Anybody who says I am misunderstands. I am not the type of person who goes about purposely trying to make other people uncomfortable, feel bad, or run over them just because they are there and I can. I AM the type of person who if provoked WILL indeed turn it back on you and whip your butt back, yell back, report you for fraud, and catch you in a lie. I will NOT allow you to get away with bullying me, someone else, or lie cheat or steal to 'get ahead' because if you did things the proper way, you would be a winner too. A victim is someone who is blameless, innocent. A VICTIM did NOTHING against someone else, didn't deserve to be slandered, lied about, or hurt. If someone walks by my driveway while I am getting my daughter into the car and threatens me and steals my purse, I AM a victim. If I beat up my neighbor and held him at gunpoint and two days later he calls the police on me and they show up as I am putting my daughter in the car, then I am NOT a victim even if it looks like I am because I was a jerk to him and what he did was payback lol. There is a huge lack of personal responsibility these days in every arena of life. Everybody wants to say 'it's not my fault' when it most clearly and obviously is.
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@PrarieStyle (2486)
• United States
16 May 09
When I was little I would pinch or hit my big brother if he wasn't paying enough attention to me. Then when he hit me back twice as hard I would tell on him. That only worked a couple of times, until my mother caught me. Then I was punished and got a long drawn out lecture. I learned my lesson and still feel bad to this day for treating him like that. I have seen many parents continuously blame the offender because they are their favorite child. I think many people have gotten away with childish things and never really get a chance to grow up. It's really pathetic...
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@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
15 May 09
Yeppers! I have known such situations both here and on other forums. Sad how people see themselves like that.... or tell others that YOU are playing the victim because other people stand up for what they know is the right thing. I was wronged but friends pulled me through and yet the other person still thinks I'm the spawn of all evil. I told the person that people would learn the truth through what they learn of us both. I think it's proven true. I never had to say a word about the person though they thought I did. People aren't as blind to abusive behavior as this person is to their own narrow mindedness. I hope it all works out for the best.
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• United States
15 May 09
I'm sorry you went through that, but you are right, people will generally see the truth for what it is eventually, even if you don't say a word.
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
15 May 09
I have been guilty in the past of the "victim mentality." I've come to realize, though, that if I've slit my own throat, I should not cry when I begin to bleed. It has a lot to do with accepting the consequences of our own actions, good or bad, and there are ALWAYS consequences. We should not hurt one another. Period.
• United States
15 May 09
Thank you for your post, the victim mentality does more harm than good to the person who uses it, IMHO.
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@cobra1368 (702)
• United States
15 May 09
I completely agree! The only reason that people do that is because it has worked in the past. They are master manipulators (most hard criminals are really good at this), and they think that by turning the tables away from themselves and blaming others for what happened, that people will see another point of view and let them off easier. Some people see right through it. Some don't. But by manipulating the situation by crying "whoa is me," they are hoping to get less of a punishment for their crimes/mistakes/actions. It is sick.
• United States
15 May 09
It is absolutely sick, the only cure for it is a strong and repeated dose of truth! Thanks for joining this discussion!
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• United States
15 May 09
I agree with you completely! I get so tired of people playing the victim card. The situation you described doesnt make them a victim. There is this thing called consequences that people seem to have forgotten! When you do something, you must expect there to be consquences. Sometimes they are good - like working hard at work can earn you a promotion. Sometimes they are bad - like punching someone in their face can get your butt kicked! I really wish more people would understand this! I think too many people have been protected their entire life! When someone always bails them out, they dont know how to do anything else other than play the victim. I hope that trend doesnt continue into future generations.
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• Canada
15 May 09
Yep, I ALWAYS have to pay the consequences when I am wrong, whether I like it or not, so what makes them immune? EXCELLENT POST! I just had to pop in here and tell ya that.
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• United States
15 May 09
Thank you for your excellent post! There is a huge lack of personal responsibility lately, I like you, hope it doesn't continue. Actions have consequences! The sooner people realize that and stop blaming everyone else for their own mistakes, the better off we'll all be.
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@angelsmummy (1696)
15 May 09
Yeah I hate people that lie!! and then when they have the cheek to cry about getting caught that really bothers me I get so angry, at the end of the day there is no need to lie abput anything!! apart from my partner who tells me i have a small bum lol thats a good lie
• United States
15 May 09
I'm sure your bum is lovely! Thanks for the support!
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@Citychic (4067)
• United States
20 May 09
Imaginary victims, How are you today? Well I see what you mean when you talk about imaginary victims and i think it all goes back to cause and effect. Somebody does something to someone then that one does something to get even. Whose fault is it, I would think it was the first one that drew the blood. When people do bad things to innocent children this is something that really get to me. Hope this answer your question, it was the best that I could do today, take care and walk in peace and love.
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