If we take away a womans right to chose.....

@vellibiz (297)
United States
May 20, 2009 12:08pm CST
then we mind as well take away all of their rights. i dont get why women are fighting to limit their own rights, it does not make sense. and honestly i think this is a ploy for the catholic religion to grow and take over the world, if women cant take the pill or get abortions it only makes the catholic family larger and put more money into the religions so they can go around the world and recruit more members to wipe all religions off of the map. a very smart political machine they have set up.
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@MrPKitty (102)
• United States
20 May 09
It's just another way for the Religious Right to try to force everyone to live up to their beliefs. You know it's hard to feel superior if you don't have anyone to look down your nose at. But really so many of these people who want to tell thers how to live are nasty little buggers themselves. Take the Purity Pledge all the little Baptist girls out here take. Yeah they're virgins when the get married, virgins with rectal tears and scarring. I think if you talk a woman out of an abortion, you should become financially responsible for her during pregnancy and her child until the age of 18. Because the hardships aren't what matters, it's that human life, that the protesters don't actually want to be that involved in.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
21 May 09
"I think if you talk a woman out of an abortion, you should become financially responsible for her during pregnancy and her child until the age of 18." So it's all about money to you, is that it? Have you known any women considering abortion who actually went to pro-life groups asking for financial help so they could give birth instead of killing the child? Your "until the age of 18" bit is complete garbage. If the woman can't or doesn't want to raise her child she could put him up for adoption. Women can even arrange private adoptions where the adoptive parents cover all her medical expenses to be sure the child is born healthy. Of course, killing the child is so much easier.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
21 May 09
"It's not all about the money, it's all about living your own life and letting others live theirs." Well than let the child live their life. How hard is that? Why is it better to kill the child than let the child live with a mother that doesn't want him? If we can't guarantee a great life for that child, should we just kill it off rather than risk a difficult life?
@MrPKitty (102)
• United States
21 May 09
No, it's about interferring in another persons life and then not sticking around for the consequences. And I'd like to point out that very few people are completely alone in the world. It's easy to say "just give it up for adoption", but the fact is girls/women tend to have families, some of these families will help, some will just apply pressure. I know 2 girls whose father beg them to keep their babies because he would help out oh so much! He'd pay the bills, babysit so they could go to school, buy supplies and so on. But when the kids where born he was out of the picture. I also know a girl who was pretty much held prisoner by Life Choices. She went in pregnant and scared, she came out 12 hours later traumatized by the good christians who berated and belittled her. They convinced her to keep her baby through intimidation and swore they would help out. Now she living on welfare in public housing with a kid she doesn't want. Life is far more complicated than can be stated on any message board and it is not up to me, you, or anyone else to make major life altering decisions for another person especially if we are not willing to see them through to the end. It's not all about the money, it's all about living your own life and letting others live theirs.
@coolcoder (2018)
• United States
21 May 09
Contrary to what you've just stated, the Catholic Church does not have a political machine--groups like NARAL, NOW, and other organizations such as this are nothing but pure political activism. Your statement that the Catholic church wants large families so as to wipe all other religions off the earth is equally ridiculous. If that were the case, all other religions would have been wiped off the map eons ago, but as you can see, they're still around and doing very well for themselves. Do you actually believe that this so-called right to choose (if it really were a matter of choice, then why are so many women outraged when other women choose NOT to abort their children? The whole "pro-choice" moniker is a total misnomer.) is the holy grail of women's rights? Forget the right to vote...forget the right not to be mistreated...forget all of the other rights we have--the only right that women have is the "right" to kill a child in the womb for the sake of convenience, which is the reason that most abortions are carried out. I'll tell you why women are fighting. They're fighting against being exploited by groups which supposedly speak for them (see aforementioned NARAL and NOW), but which will automatically turn against them when the choice not to abort is made. They're fighting against a system which cares not about them, but about profits. And don't get me talking about the fact that Planned Parenthood has deliberately covered up cases of statutory rape. That's another story for another day. I'm off my soapbox now. Happy MyLotting.
@ClassyCat (1214)
• United States
21 May 09
It isn't about "taking away the rights of a woman to choose." THAT should have been done BEFORE they entered into that s*exual union, without using birth control. We who are against abortion are trying to address the "rights" of that unborn child, that God has had a life plan for. The Catholic church is trying to stand for the rights and life of the baby as well. Notice I didn't use the word fetus here - which is nothing more than a medical term to make it easier for people to believe that it is not a human life. They'll explain that to God one day, I'm sure. 'nuff said
@MrPKitty (102)
• United States
21 May 09
People who don't exist can not have rights that supersede the rights of people who are actually here right now. At what point does a woman's rights cease in favor of a potential nonexistent person? At implantation? Conception? Ovulation? Every egg a woman produces could be a person if the circumstances are just right. If a woman does not do her best to bring every egg/potential person into life is she guilty of a denying them their right to life? Look around, life is not so simple. People who would be great parents can't always have their own children. People who are horrible parents have kids they don't care for. The right to CHOOSE is just that, a right. Like the right to practice the religion of your choice, the right to further your education, the right to raise your children as you see fit. Women aren't cattle. We're not here to produce at the command of others. Btw, convenience is being able to pick up dinner on the way home from work. If you think abortion is easy and convenient, you're not thinking.
@missybal (4490)
• United States
21 May 09
You may call it pro-choice but for pro-lifers like myself the choice has been taken away. Roe Vs. Wade will not be overturned... the bigger issue is that our government takes our tax dollars to push it's agenda... and when that agenda is paying for abortions other than for life saving or in cases of rape or incest then the government has taken away my right to choose. I'm not a Catholic. I'm not even a practicing Christian. But my grandparents were and they didn't recruit me for their agenda or try to force their kids or me to populate the world with with catholic children. If anything I've seen welfare families who vote democrat with more children then Catholic families I know but that's really not the issue here. Our government has held back funding to medical facilities that chose to be pro-life, tried to force doctors who are pro-life to preform abortions when it is against their belief. It is not the pro-life community that has taken away a woman's right to choose. It is the pro-abortion community taking away pro-life individuals rights to choose by taking their hard earned money and giving to to organizations like Planned Parenthood that tells little 14 year old girls to lie to a judge about the age of their boyfriend who got them pregnant who is twice her age. Organizations that allow parents to be left in the dark about their child's pregnancy so they do not know what is going on with the child and so they can not help them prevent it from re-occuring.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
20 May 09
I'm Catholic and female so I don't agree that the Church wants to take over the world. The Church has always been against anything that physically or medically interferes with natural reproduction but that does not mean that all Catholic women follow that doctrine. I know many Catholic women who have used artificial methods of birth control over the years. As for abortion, that is a very emotional topic and everyone has their own opinions about it. You don't have to be Catholic to object to it...or to support a woman's right to choose.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
20 May 09
Thanks for the BR!
• Malaysia
21 May 09
There should be equal rights for everyone i think.that should be better don't you think so?There should not be any difference for boys and girls as we are all humans right.and to discriminate between one another is such a bad thing to do...
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
21 May 09
I agree completely. We are all humans and so are the children killed by abortion. We shouldn't discriminate against them because they can't defend themselves.
@lelin1123 (15595)
• Puerto Rico
21 May 09
I was raised a catholic but I don't believe in most of their beliefs. I took the pill for awhile never had an abortion but I believe it's a women's right to decide for herself. Its totally ridulous that we as women don't have control over their own bodies being a Catholic. The catholic church is not raising your kids that you can't afford but they want your money on Sundays. Give me a break. When they say they will support your children as many as you have then I'm on board otherwise the Catholic Church needs to wake up or just go away. I'll probably go to hell for that one. LOL LOL LOL