Do you feel you are spending real money when you charged to credit card?

@scheng1 (24650)
Singapore
May 31, 2009 10:41am CST
Those working in financial institutions, in finance departments and other jobs that require handling and transmitting large sums of money rarely feel they are handling real money. The dollar notes and coins are real money, and feel like real money. But for the humble account clerk who keys in invoices into the system, she does not feel the invoice amount is real money. Those are just numbers. That's why she can key in $1000000 without feeling that is a lot of money. Even though mentally she knows that is money. Nick Leeson wrote Rogue Trader, a true account of his experience in shutting down a bank that had more than 150 years of history. He said that he did not feel all the million and billion dollars of debt he chalked up were real. It's just numbers, does not have the concrete feelings of money. Only the dollar notes and coins were real money, and felt like real money. Do you feel you are spending real money when you use credit card? Does the amount you charged to the credit card, seems as real as handling over the notes and coins to the cashier?
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@faisai (1138)
• Hong Kong
31 May 09
I do it the other way round. I treat my credit card as a linkage to my saving account and therefore it is the real money. Thus, whenever I use my credit card, the first question is: do I have enough remaining savings available for the extra expenses I am going to charge on my credit card? I never had "borrow" money by means of credit card by making sure that every dollar I charge to it is actually backed up by my saving account.
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@scheng1 (24650)
• Singapore
1 Jun 09
Hi Faisai, that is very prudent money manangement. Many credit card holders treat credit card as free money, that's why they get into trouble. It sounds a lot of trouble to mentally deduct the spending from your saving account, but I agree that it does save you a lot of headaches.
• United States
31 May 09
When I spend money on my credit card it absolutely feels real to me! I am a stickler for my finances, though. So I am very careful about what I spend! I used to work at a bank. The most money I ever held at once was about $500,000. In cash. It didnt seem real to me. There were days that I would literally hand out $100,000. That was all just paper to me! While I was there, it was just paper because it didnt belong to me. I do get excited whenever I have my own cash - and it has never been anywhere near that amount! I think one of the biggest differences is when it is yours.
@scheng1 (24650)
• Singapore
1 Jun 09
Hi DerliaStern, I agree with you, those money that are ours are real, though it's hard to hold the hard currency and not even feel that it's real money. If I have to carry such big sum of money, I would have fainted. So far I have not handled such big sum of money in hard currency form, it's always numbers reflected in the system. Even the checks that I prepared for the company did not seem real money.
• Philippines
1 Jun 09
Nope, I don't think I am spending real money when I am using credit card. I think it as a credit. I know that I have interest to pay because of my debt. But I keep on using it especially if I have deficit in my budget.
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@scheng1 (24650)
• Singapore
1 Jun 09
Hi Marymarj, I like and admire your candid. I think many people share your sentiment. Using hard cash to pay for purchases is painful. Somehow using credit card does not feel so painful, even when you know that you need to pay later, and often with high interest.
• United States
31 May 09
I feel as if I am going to a loan shark when I use a credit card. It is more than real money it is bondage. It is easy to get into that bondage because there is a false feeling that it is not real. Unfortunately, it is more real than the money. It has a bite that is filled with venom.
@scheng1 (24650)
• Singapore
1 Jun 09
Wow Sysdexlicwriter, you have such strong negative feelings towards credit card. Actually I feel as strongly as you, and fortunately in Singapore, we do not need to use credit cards to pay for purchases. Most of the time I used ATM card to pay for grocery shoppings. That is real money, the money is instantly deducted from my bank account.
@scheng1 (24650)
• Singapore
3 Jun 09
Hi Sysdexlicwriter, wow, that's a great idea. I have seen people giving thanks for the food before they start eating, but I have not heard of anyone giving thanks for the money they earn. It's a great idea, for Christians and non-Christians, to be thankful of our abilities to work, earn, and spend money wisely.
• United States
1 Jun 09
Yes this is what I do too. I do have to be careful to make sure I know what is in my account before I spend. I find that I even look at the cash money to make sure I am within my means. Of course, my money goes much farther than I could ever imagine. When I have a need or need to buy things like groceries, I look at my resources and ask God to bless them beyond measure. He has never let me down. Money flows to me and I hold it before God and ask Him for the wisdom with every bit of His provision. Oh, and being thankful for all is greater than anything.
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@khayshenz (1384)
• United States
31 May 09
YEAP - it's real money alright - plus interest and finance charges. So technically, it's the real cost of the product PLUS the cost of swiping. So yes - It does hurt my pockets when I use plastic. I just like to use plastic because I feel safer - in terms of not attracting too much attention if I were to pay cash.
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@scheng1 (24650)
• Singapore
1 Jun 09
Hi Khayshenz, most people know that it's real money with interest and charges, but they do not have the feel as if they are spending real money. Most people will feel pain when they hand over a bundle of hard cash to the cashier, but they do not feel the pain if they charged to the credit card. If you think of credit card as real money with interest and charges, you are not likely to get into credit card. Most people treat credit card as free money, that's the whole problem.
@jwetter (73)
• United States
1 Jun 09
I think that it does set in as money however it is easier to spend. When you spend cash you feel the effects on the spot but with a credit card you dont feel them untill you have to pay the bill later. This makes it easier to get into debt with credit cards. Its not that you dont see it as actual money but you dont feel the effects untill it is to late and you have already spent the money
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@scheng1 (24650)
• Singapore
1 Jun 09
Hi Jwetter, that's why I ask "do you feel", because knowing that it is real money when you use credit card doesn't mean that you feel you are spending real money. When we use hard cash, the money is real, and feel very real, it is very painful to part with hard cash. But the knowledge that you are spending money when using credit card doesn't translate the same pain of spending. So if you dont feel the effect of spending money at the point of charging to your credit card, the money may not feel as real as hard cash.
@maybebaby (1230)
• Canada
31 May 09
I can see how it wouldn't be like using real money when you are using a credit card or even debit card to pay for things. I mean it doesn't have the same feel of handing over real money. I find that if I also keep a written record of what I put on my card that it makes it more real and curtails my spending a bit too. I haven't had any problems with credit card debt but I know a lot of people who own so much in interest alone that it's scary.
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@scheng1 (24650)
• Singapore
1 Jun 09
Hi Mabebaby, that's a good tip to control credit card debt. Somehow keeping a written record makes spending seems real. I think those with huge credit card debt are treating credit cards as free money, and not treating every spending as real money. It's funny how forking out thousand in hard cash is so painful, yet charging the same sum to the credit card does not evoke such feelings.
@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
31 May 09
When I was young and had my first credit card, I knew it was money but I only thought of the minimum payment. I could buy a thing and only pay a few dollars a month. The interest and other fees didn't make an impression on me. After all, I had the thing I wanted and only had to pay a little every month. I got into a lot of trouble! Once I was older and hadn't had a credit card for years, I got one again. That was two years ago. I realized I couldn't fall back into the same old pattern or I would always be in debt and never get ahead. I began treating the charges like debits, subtracting them from my bank balance as I would a debit charge. I wrote them in red. I always knew how much I had in my checking account. When the bill came, I added back the red charges, then wrote a check for that much to pay the balance in full. That way, it is real money. If I cannot subtract the charge from my balance and have enough to last the month plus put a good amount in savings, I do not buy the thing on my credit card. By treating a credit card charge like a debit, I am actually dealing in cash and I control my spending. I also get cash back on the purchases and pay no monthly fee so the card is paying me to use it. They call people like me "deadbeats", as you learned from one of my previous discussions! I think if people treated charges like debits, we'd be a lot better off.
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@scheng1 (24650)
• Singapore
1 Jun 09
Hi Dragon, sorry to hear about the mismanagement of personal finance with your first credit card. Fortunately you have improved on the personal finance management and becomes a "deadbeat". It's funny how keeping a record of expenditure makes credit card spending as real as hard cash. Hope many first time credit card owners can learn from your example, and avoid credit card debt.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
31 May 09
I agree with Leeson that, when you're simply keying numbers into a program or monitoring one that does automatic invoicing, it doesn't seem like real money. I ran such a program when I worked for a railroad that invoiced well over $14 million a year and the numbers were just numbers. Tracking the expenses with another program had the same feel and the only thing that mattered was that everything balanced at the end of the month, quarter and year. As for my personal finances, though, those numbers have meaning. Yes, I feel like I'm spending real money when I use my personal credit cards and when using the credit cards we have for our business because, if the income and the expenses don't balance, it effects me personally. I have both a personal and business budget and I usually know exactly where we are financially.
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@scheng1 (24650)
• Singapore
1 Jun 09
Hi Spalladino, $14 million is a big sum of money, and if that is the number reflected in my bank account, then I will treat that as real number. Other than that, money that belongs to company (of course not my own company, it's my boss company) or others are just numbers. I think those who are able to treat credit card spending as real money, as real as hard currency, have good grasp of personal finance. I have no doubt that your business is doing well, since you are keeping a tight control on expenses.
• Singapore
31 May 09
Yes, I could sense that I'm using true money with credit cards. I will still see my bank account numbers decreasing when I pay for my credit card bills. I don't have the problem of over spending so far.
@scheng1 (24650)
• Singapore
1 Jun 09
Hi Nerissagoh, glad to see that credit card spending is as real as hard currency. Not many people view credit card spending as real money, they treat as free money, that's why they get into credit card debt. Since you are able to mentally see the money in the bank decreasing, I'm sure you will never get into credit card.
@lawana_f (326)
• United States
31 May 09
I know that I am spending real money when I use a credit card. I do not own but one card, and I only purchase on the same day I pay it at the store. I simply get a discount for using the card and I make sure I have the money to pay before I buy as I do not have any intention of paying interest. I do not carry it with me unless there is something that I need to buy at that store. When you live on a fixed income you have to be careful or you can ruin your credit. I use my debit card often and that helps you know that purchases are all spending your money. In this day and age Credit ratings are very important not just to future purchases but to be able to get a good job and promotions etc. Please keep this in mind as you spend. You have to be able to pay it off quickly. As I am guessing you are not over 30 then you may not have decided to buy a house yet, but your credit rating will even affect the interest rate on purchases like a car.
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@scheng1 (24650)
• Singapore
1 Jun 09
Hi Lawana, that is very wise personal finance management. Most people do not have such wisdom till they are painfully in debt. Fortunately the Singapore government is keeping a control on credit card applications. Only those making more than $30,000 can apply for a credit card. Most fresh school leavers are not able to get their first credit card unless they can meet the criteria. Over here, most people carry cash, even if they are carrying credit cards as well. Those coffee shops selling cooked food will not accept credit card, they want cash. Even then, it's sad to see many people in their 20s and 30s getting into debt.
@gongchhua (272)
• China
31 May 09
I think I am spending real money when I use credit card. But I always buy more things when I use credit card to charge. Maybe using credit card can make me think it is real money, numbers as well in my brain.
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@scheng1 (24650)
• Singapore
1 Jun 09
Hi Gongchhua, glad to hear that you are keeping a tight control of your personal finance, if you can keep on thinking credit card spending as real money, you will not get into credit card debt. When I ran payroll for the company, I did not feel that those numbers were real money. Only those numbers that I saw in my bank account are as real as hard currency to me.