Locking up the Wrong Kids, For the Wrong Reasons

@ParaTed2k (22972)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
June 1, 2009 4:09pm CST
It's ironic... even hypocritical... We condemn the Catholic Church for moving pedophile priests around from one parish to another when they are caught. Of course, that is a terrible policy that only leads to more abuse, more ruined lives and more victims. However, our schools do the same exact thing! When a student gets kicked out of one school, what happens? They are just sent to another school. Why do we have schools that are so dangerous we need metal detectors, bars on the windows, cops and other "protections"? Who are we trying to protect our kids from anyway? We are trying to protect them from the violent elements in their neighborhoods... but aren't we forcing that "element" into our kids' schools in the first place? Why do our prisons have education systems? Because we have learned that ex-cons who come out with an education or trade are less of a threat to society than those who we just locked up for years, then cut loose with "gate money". If we can educate adult convicts in prison, why can't we imprison violent kids, then let them go to school on the inside. It makes more sense than running schools like prisons... and I bet it would help schools actually accomplish their jobs.
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@meandmy3 (2228)
• United States
1 Jun 09
Where I live if a child is considered to violent or to be a troubled student they are sent to alternative schools, that well is full of other students with the same issues. The class sizes are smaller and the school is more of a home school type environment, different grades in the same class, you all work on your work alone in cubicle like environments. There fore eliminating the problem students, the ones that cause the violence and risk to the school. They have security at these schools and the majority of the teachers have to be men, as most the kids are kids that cause trouble, fight etc. Resulting in the mainstream schools being safer, and the teachers are more able to teach.
@ParaTed2k (22972)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
1 Jun 09
That is why there is very little violence at your regular schools. Go to the areas where the schools are very violent tell them to start the alternative schools. You'll be hit with accusations of racism, and given some crap about "separate but equal". We had an alternative school too, it was for us "JD's" but it wasn't a place to hide violent people. Violent kids were put where violent offenders belong.. in jail. I was a borderline case for the alternative school myself.
@meandmy3 (2228)
• United States
1 Jun 09
I agree that if a child commits a crime that he or she belongs in JD, however if no crime has been committed we need to have another solution for these children. Some way to rehab them, some way to get them therapy that they need, and their parents the help that they need as well. It started somewhere and parents need to be more involved in this. Children have no consequences for their actions, they are allowed to do what ever they want and parents either look the other way or they bail their child out and walk around saying not my child, my child was innocent he or she would never do that. WRONG your child would and your child did, now step up to the freaking plate and make sure your child pays the consequences for their actions instead of blaming his or her friends, and instead of not allowing them to have any consequences for their actions.
@ParaTed2k (22972)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
2 Jun 09
The kids that are causing the need for bars on the windows, metal detectors and shool cops are all violent.
• Philippines
2 Jun 09
I don't think it's a good idea to lock up a kid since he/she is too young for that isolation in the Bars. in my country they send it to social service to educate the right into the right doing. Priest are transferred to ensure that they won't do it again and stay that person away from the neighborhood. well, there's a lacking in the priest in the world, so locking them up could also be an increase in decreasing the priesthood. since the priesthood is voluntary, only few are coming in to learn being priest..
@spalladino (17921)
• United States
2 Jun 09
The dangers in some of these schools are not limited to students for one thing. Gang members and non-students used to routinely enter schools in D.C. to settle a score with a student which is why precautions are now taken to ensure that only people who belong on school property are on school property. Yes, there are violent students but, in Maryland as well and in our school district here in Florida, if you are expelled for violence, you are out...you're not relocated to another regular school. There's an alternative school that you can attend and, if you complete the program, you won't have a criminal record but the juvenile can opt out of that and be on probation instead. The reason that you can't imprison a violent juvenile and force an education down his throat can be summed up in one word...lawyers. Unless the crime itself is punishable by prison time across the board, juveniles can't be sentenced more severely than adults.
@jonesy123 (3949)
• United States
2 Jun 09
We have a school in town for those kids, but unfortunately, it's not big enough to take them all. And they, too, rather keep those kids who simply have scholastic problems due to some mental issue rather than those who are violent. Those stay mainstreamed and it can get tough. Some kids think they are untouchable because we have to school them and there is no other option for them to go to.
@Adoniah (7515)
• United States
1 Jun 09
Juvenile Detention Centers here used to force kids to attend classes while they were locked up. Then some idiot decided that it was against the kids rights to "force" them to do anything in lock up so they didn't have to go to school anymore. Good program. Some of them stay until they are 21. They get out illiterate and too old to go back to school. I used to do substitue teaching. It was frightening to sub at any of the high schools and even some of the junior highs. The kids roamed the halls between classes and went where ever they wanted. If you sent them to the office, they were just sent back to class because they were so and so's kid and you could not touch them or the school would be in deep water.You could not even suspend certain kids much less expel them. There are "bootcamp style" schools that kids can be sent to where they go to school and do a "bootcamp type workout" everyday. These are expensive and it is hard to get a kid into them. They have about a 70% success rate which is really good. Not enough people seem to care to do anything else about the violent kids. Some schools call the cops, but that does not seem to work because the teachers and heads of the school are afraid of their "friends". Shalom~Adoniah