Can anyone in the world explain by gas prices are so high?

United States
June 6, 2009 7:48am CST
Where I live, gas prices are as high as $2.90 a gallon, the national average is $2.60. Yesterday crude oil ended the day at $68.44 a barrel. At the peak last year, oil reached $147.00 a barrel, and the national average was $4.11. According to Valero (the largest US oil refiner), world wide supply is very high, demand is very low, and they are expecting a loss in the second quarter. There is absolutely no reason for oil or gas to be at this level right now. So why is it so high?
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
6 Jun 09
It's a prtty complicated mix of circumstances I still don't fully understand. Bottle necking at the refining process and shipping shortcommings combined with oportunists in the refining industry is my initial assesment. You seem to be our resident "oil man", I'd be very interested in hearing your take on it as well as maybe your predictions for the summer, what do you see the gas prices reaching summer? I myself don't expect to see 4 dollar a gallon gas again this summer, but I a m also pretty sure we haven't seen the top end of the price climb yet.
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• United States
6 Jun 09
X, as you know I am in this industry, and there is No reason for gas prices, or oil prices to be this high. Supply is high, demand is low, and the biggest refiner in the country says they aren't making money. Your guess is as good as mine, but Obama better step up and find out what is going on, and put a stop to this quick. High energy prices were partically to blame for the mess we are in now, and if they continue to go up, then it could send us into a depression. I was listening to CNBC on Friday and one of the oil experts made a very scary comment, "he said that we know that the $4.11 per gallon mark is where Americans stop buying, so we know it won't get that high". I think we will see the $3.00 a gallon mark, but that isn't a stretch it is already $2.86, so that isn't that far away. But we could see it go even higher, but it is all about the media, if the media notices this, and tells everyone about it, it will put pressure on who ever is doing this, and will force them back into their holes (where they belong).
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@Arkie69 (2156)
• United States
6 Jun 09
Yes there is a very good reason for the high gas prices. It's called greed. The oil companies learned that a lot of people will cut back on buying gas if the price goes over $4 a gallon. This time they are going to easy the price back up to about $3.75 a gallon and stay there a while. When we have learned to live with that they will ease it up a little more. They raised the price of gas too fast but if they raise it slowly they can get it back over $4 and the people will pay it. Why does our government allow this? Far too many of the elected are connected to the oil business in one way or the other and it is putting extra profits in their pockets. Art
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@Arkie69 (2156)
• United States
6 Jun 09
Yes and keep in mind that every cent the oil companies bribe out elected with comes out of our pockets every time we buy a gallon of gasoline. The stupid idiots are using our own money against us and this bunch of dumb A*s*s we have in Washington are letting them do it. What's worse is we are sitting on our hands letting them get away with it. When you have looked at all sides of it I must say we are getting exactly what we deserve. Art
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• United States
7 Jun 09
Arkie, you are 100% correct. The sad part is that our government is run by these criminals, and even when someone comes in talking about reform, they are quickly paid off so they never change anything. It is hard to blame people for taking all of this money when you consider most of us would do the same thing. If you were offered millions of dollars to vote a certain way, or not vote at all, then the vast majority of us would do it. I find it ironic how many people go to Washington with a modest bank account, and leave millionaires. Government shouldn't be a place where you made your fortune, but far to often this is the case.
• United States
6 Jun 09
I do agree with you Arkie, the oil companies are greedy, and that our politicans need to stand up for us. The oil companies don't mind throwing around millions of dollars at our elected officals, and we all know that our government is run by money.
@heathcliff (1415)
• United States
6 Jun 09
Your responders above are all correct, but my question is: Why are the politicians not jumping up to invetigate price gouging THIS time? Last year at this time the % profit per barrel was considerably lower but politicians scrambled to say they would ge to the bottom of it! Are they less concerned because this is such a minor election year (as opposed to last year), or are they excited to see at least one sector of the big business economy actually prospering. Do they think oil companies can drive up the economy by driving up their profits?
@Signal20 (2281)
• United States
6 Jun 09
You hit it on the head, it's not an election year. So they don't care, because they're all going to profit from it.
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@glassy1 (63)
6 Jun 09
$2.90 - consider yourself lucky, here in the Uk it is $8.60!
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@Signal20 (2281)
• United States
6 Jun 09
And that's for a litre isn't it?
@Arkie69 (2156)
• United States
7 Jun 09
Glassy how the heck can you afford to pay that much for gasoline to get where you must go? We couldn't do it here in the US. Art
• United States
6 Jun 09
Glassy, sorry to hear, maybe you should start looking at making your own fuel in this case.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
6 Jun 09
I would think that it's an effort by the oil companies to maximize their potential for as much profit as possible during the peak summer driving season. As you have pointed out, supply is high but demand is still low. I don't think we'll see $4 a gallon again but they'll inch it back up as much as they can get away with.
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@mommaj (23112)
• United States
6 Jun 09
As you said they are expecting a loss in the second quarter. Gas prices are going up to take advantage of the people traveling. People travel in the summer and all these rich bassturds (spelled for posting but pun is good too.)are just plain greedy. The gas prices should be around $1. Because we will pay the prices and no one will find an alternative the gas prices can continue to rise. Darn OPEC.
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• United States
6 Jun 09
Mommaj, I figured that according to past history, gas should be $1.89 a gallon, and if we don't act to stop them it will be up to the $4.00 range within a month. We do need to find an alternative fuel to run our cars, they already have one for diesel trucks. OPEC really isn't a player anymore, it really is the big oil companies that are controlling the price of oil in the world. We buy a very small amount of oil from OPEC countries, and OPEC has had alot of problems keeping members in-line. The last time they limited production, only 50% of the members did so. Which didn't do anything at all to the world pricing.
• United States
7 Jun 09
Mommaj, yes that was a couple of months ago and the price did continue to go up, but it started before that. Here is what happens in the oil market: OPEC needs oil at $60 - $90 range to make money and keep demand where they need it at. When it is to low they lose money, and when it is to high they lose money. That is right they lose money when it was at $147 a barrel because demand when down, and alternative fuels were being used more which means that they were sell less crude oil. You would be surprised to see some of the statements out of OPEC when oil was so high. Alternative fuels are out there, but the base product for these fuels are in countries that we aren't very friendly with. Countries like Cuba, and many south American countries have large amounts of sugar that we can use for ethonol, but we can't the this from them because we have trade embargos. There are other options to decrease our demand for oil. I have a customer that has a Ford Mustang that is 400 horse power and gets 87 mpg. If we for the car companies to use this technology then we can decrease our demand for oil, and lower the cost of oil.
@Signal20 (2281)
• United States
6 Jun 09
I just read that supposedly during the summer time they use a different blend of gasoline because of the higher temperatures I guess. I think it's just because they know people will travel more in the summer time, and use more gas for boating and other recreational vehicles, so they jack up the prices. And, just plain old greed as well. I expected it to happen, knew within a few months of Nobama taking office it was going to shoot back up. Driving home early this morning from work, the cheaper gas stations were at about 2.37 for E10(I'm in middle TN). We have one gas station left that still has "real gas" with no ethanol, and they're always a few cents higher, they were at 2.46. I would recommend to anyone that still has stations around that carry "real gas", and if it's just a few cents difference, fill up there. I've noticed I get much better gas mileage with real gas compared to the E10 ethanol B.S. they're touting. Why should I pay more for their "new gas" that gives me cr*ppy mileage, and I have to fill up more? Apparantly the oil companies, OPEC, and the refineries didn't learn their lesson from jacking up the prices so high last year, and maybe we need to cut back more on our usage again to send a message to them. I know I don't go out unless I absolutely have to. I'm so sick of hearing how "cheap" gas is now compared to years ago and inflation. Well, it's hitting my pocket book to the tune of 60.00 a week in gas to go to work, granted I drive 50 miles one way, but still, it's ridiculous watching it go from 20.00 to fill up my tank a few months ago to almost 30.00 a tank now. Same thing that happened last year when it was near 4.00 a gallon here. We are so screwed as a society in letting all these politicians and their rich comrades take control of our lives. Life is not going to get any easier or better anytime soon.
@Signal20 (2281)
• United States
6 Jun 09
Forgot to add, it's hurricane season now here in the US, so plan on even higher prices once the season gets into full swing. I can hardly wait to see how high the prices get when the "panic" sets in from a hurricane only "projected" to hit somewhere in the US this summer.
@Celanith (2327)
• United States
7 Jun 09
It is about greed and the stock market which politicians are heavily invested in one being oil. If Oil prices climb they make more money, they don't care about the rest of us. As to the person from the UK yeah you have high prices too but you have a better health system, higher wages and you don't drive as far and you have a terrific public transportation system. None of which we have here in the USA. People are losing jobs here and many are NOT going on vacation or traveling except those with incomes over $35,000. The elderly and large families and poor are not making it as it is. Obama and the rest better do something. We in USA are NO LONGER UNITED. IF EVERY employed person refused to drive or go to work just ONE day or two or three the gas prices would come down. Employers cannot fire everyone. They would scream. Or if most would NOT buy gas for a whole week. They would come down. It has to be a chain reaction for them to get the message. Enough have to say NO not anymore. Don't go to work, don't drive, don't buy gas, stay home. Send a message. The reason is pure greed. There is plenty of oil and more for years into the future. As to driving other cars how about we all go back to horse and buggy that would take care of a lot of problems world wide. Pollution, Ozone, Enviroment, Social life and more, health, more people would exercise. But well we know that is not going to happen. The government thinks carpooling or taking the bus is the answer. They have their head in the sand. USA is primarly rural with some large city tracts. But lots of people live rural. No public transportation available and most cannot car pool due to different work places, locations and schedules. It is unrealistic but they think it is real. They have nor clue. The lawmakers don't get it at all.
@Randync (544)
• United States
6 Jun 09
The Dollar has taken a hit under Obama's Socialisim thus it takes more of it to buy anything.
• United States
6 Jun 09
Randy, it is true that the dollar has taken a hit, but not enough to effect the price this much. Using your logic, exports would be through the roof, because we as a nation export oil. But, they are not. I am not happy with the fact that ALL of our politicans haven't stood up to the big oil companies and started to ask questions about what is going on.
@mommaj (23112)
• United States
6 Jun 09
Our gov't has its hands in the gas situation or they would have done something about it. Maybe the oil companies are paying the politicians and getting them into office. I think you should want to know WHY the gov't isn't asking oil companies what the heck is going on.
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@tjades (3591)
• Jamaica
7 Jun 09
One of my friends who get a ride with to and from work was lamenting the same thing here just yesterday. Motorist are paying nearly $80 Jamaican dollars per litre of oil(really less than US$1 at the moment). We keep on hearing about an increase in the US Golf reference price (or something to that effect) and that always spells bad news for us. In addition to that we are now paying a gas tax which adds to the increase in gas prices. I do not undersand it all but gas prices here are certainly climbing steadly back to the price we were paying when we were facing a worldwide crisis.
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@reckon21 (3479)
• Philippines
6 Jun 09
Funny...people were worried about gas prices that could go up in a matter of hours anytime. Some discoveries relating to other natural sources that could help us reduce our dependency on gas has been reported once in a while. My only question is...why it failed to generate governments help and interest. Maybe because gas taxes are more lucrative...I don't know the real reason. If our scientist can fly to the moon with the billions of money expenses taken from the taxpayers. How could they not do some experiments to help us get rid of being dependent in gasoline. This really sad.
@hanah87 (1835)
• Malaysia
6 Jun 09
Maybe it is hard to find the source of oil or gas and hard to produce it.So that's why the supplier take high price for it.If the price is too low,maybe rich people will use and buy it many time without worry about it and make it finish faster.Think about it deeply...thank you.
• United States
7 Jun 09
Hello, I just think it is down right pathetic to be honest, and it is just a way to make more money. I mean come on gas stations has to be the number one money makers around. Look at it this way you , don't pay for gas you don't go anywhere. Do you notice how in particur gas prices goes up during the summer months? That is because do the most traveling during the summer,so they figure they raise the gas prices the more they will be paid, it is a shame but that is how thingts are set up these days. Oh I forgot to mention earlier on that gas is $2.90 where I live. Happy My Lotting!
• United States
7 Jun 09
Onlinerep, actually the gas stations aren't making much money at all. I am a salesman and I have a few truck stops and gas stations as my customers, and they only make money on the products in the stores. The gas is a way to get people into the door, like you said we all need gas, so you have a captive audience. If you look up the news from last year you will see that companies like Exxon/Mobil sold their gas stations because they were LOSING money. If you don't have to buy your gas from someone else, and your parent company is the largest oil company in the world, then how is it that you can't make money. The companies that make all of the money are the: Oil companies, the refiners, and the oil traders (who make even more then the oil companies). This is probably more of the reason for the recent increase, these traders can't find anything else they can manipulate, and they know from last year they can do it to oil.
• Philippines
7 Jun 09
May be source pf gas now its hard to find. and the demand is increasing every year as the population is increase very fast. so i think people now must think for alternative way source of energy not only in gas
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