Some state law makers want to try to opt out of federal health care
By lilwonders
@lilwonders456 (8214)
United States
June 26, 2009 8:09am CST
Arizona,Indiana, Minnesota, New Mexico, North Dakota and Wyoming state lawmakers are considering trying to opt out of federal health care. They are thinking about putting in on the ballot in the 2010 ballots. That way the people of those state could decide wether or not they want to be a part of it.
Do you think this is a good idea? Should each state (or rather the voting public of each state)get to decide wether or not they want to be involved in the federal health care system?
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7 responses
@katran (585)
• United States
26 Jun 09
That would only be legal if the bill says they can right? I mean, federal laws override all state laws, so what would the point of making a federal health care system be if the states can just "opt out"? Also, shouldn't they at least wait to see what it is going to be like before they condemn it so fast? Nothing has been set in stone yet. I think it is wrong of those states to decide they don't want to participate before anyone has any idea what is going on.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
26 Jun 09
Well it won't be voted on til next year so it gives poeple a chance to find out what it is before they vote. I think it is a good idea to let the people decided for themselves.
@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
26 Jun 09
"federal laws override all state laws,"
A very widely believed misconception actualy. The federal government is subserviant to the states and people. the states are under no obligation to accept or comly with laws created by the federal government that are not defined as federal authority in the constitution. The problem is the same misconception you cited is so pervasive it is almost accepted fact by the population and so we have this happening all the time. the moment the population wakes up and realizes this again, we are going to see a drasticly different country.
@katran (585)
• United States
26 Jun 09
I think that Article IV of the Constitution says that acts of the Federal Government are the supreme law of the land. "The states have no power to impede, burden, or in any manner control the operation of federal law." That doesn't mean specifically the Constitution, because it says all acts of the Federal Government. It actually doesn't make sense if states can just disregard federal law, because what is the point of even having a federal government? It would be completely impotent and useless. I mean, I am all for states rights, but some things are just impractical.
@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
26 Jun 09
Oh, I know. I've seen the government owned medical facilities. I've been on medicare. It's sub par to most private facilities and a good health care insurance provider.
Then again, our own privatized system is so messed up it's no wonder why people want the government to step in. You may get great coverage with some insurance companies - but only if you pay an arm and a leg (and rent out your soul). Affordable health care coverage is so spotty and unreliable most of the time there's not even a point in having it.
There's no question we need to fix our system - but thanks to those money hungry insurance companies people are turning to the quick fix, which isn't necessarily the better alternative.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
26 Jun 09
personally I think the government needs to stay out of my wallet anymore than they already are. You know a federal plan is going to cost more and you get less.
@rogue13xmen13 (14402)
• United States
27 Jun 09
These people need to cut the bs, and sign it. This country needs health care reform and we need it now.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
28 Jun 09
I agree it needs to be reformed. But not this reform. Or not at least what I am reading on it so far.
@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
29 Jun 09
If there becomes a Federal public health care system I do not believe that individual state could stop the minority of that state from signing up even if the majority said no thanks. Let them try, yes that is great but let us not be confused this is just a shot across the bow.
The best way to show who is boss is just to throw this dolts out of office. What a shoot to the socialist solarplexius if in 2010 they are swept out of office.
@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
26 Jun 09
I am fairly certain the sheeple legislators in my state won't do this, so it is going to be up to us, the people of this state to do it. I would love to see the language these states plan on using for such a ballot initiative, doctor it up a bit and use it in my own state. I think this should be something each state decides for itself.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
26 Jun 09
I will try and find a copy of it for you. I am interesting in it too for my state.
@piasabird (1737)
• United States
26 Jun 09
Well, I think that would put a serious crimp in Obama's dictatorship. I think he needs every state to be in.
@connierebel (1557)
• United States
26 Jun 09
Yes, every state's citizens should be allowed to vote on whether or not to allow the federal health care system. That would be true democracy. But it seems that only a few states really care about the wishes of their people. Hopefully more states will do the same thing. Although I know this state, NY, won't, as they don't care one whit about their citizens.
