Obama or Bush?

See ppl, all the people that commented on this issue, especially the first person! this, this is what i am talking about, there are actual people out there who get what i am talking about! Thanks agirnow.! :)

and yet you are unable address a single issue in my list either, thank you for confirming a few things for me.

and since you can't seem to debate with out insulting.... well, as much as I would like to blame it on your age, even my youngest daughter, who is but a year older than you, is far more politicly aware and informed and could easily identify the constitutional issues with each of the items in my list and does so with out insulting people. I have already apologized in the other thread for comming across as I did and making assumptions that I did, but I will do so again here, in the interst of civility and meaningful debate, as well as in the interst of furhtering important political and government issues....so in that light, again, I apologize the uncharicteristic and un productive manner in which I initialy adressed you. Yes, I live in the u.s. and am active in government, work with the state legislature, attend committe meetings and hearings, testify on my state house floor, help tutor constitution, have submitted legislation, am currently writing a state ballot initiative, head up a liberty and state's right advocacy group, have had on going coraspondence with congressional members, governors and others on relevent issues, even managed to cause a few to change their views and votes by showing them things even they didn't know.....in short, I have been working in government longer than you have even been alive and genuinely know what I am talking about. Anyone here, even those who disagrea with me deeply on ideology will tell you this. You mentioned in the other thread I didn't know what I was talking about when I brought up constitutional issues with Obama. SO lets continue that discusion and merge it with this one for convenience and simplicity, rather than waste time and bandwidth by thread bouncing..... I listed a bunch of constitutional issues above and each and every one is genuine and documented, yet you claim I didn't know what I was talking about, do you think I just made those up off the top of my head? Each item in that list has a corosponding portion of the constitution or founder's laws it violates, if you do not wish to do a little studying to see exactly what the issue is with each one, I can summerize it for you, but I would prefer you go and look it up your self, you have a great deal to learn and the experience would do you good. Also, I do watch the 3 major news networks, but only as a spring board for my own research, I get the vast majority of my news and information from my own studies and a ton of alternative sources and other people who are just as involved as I, including people who have been very influential in state and national legislation and policy. So here we are, on the "starting all over again" point, ....an atempt at getting off on the "right foot" so to speak. Now, go back to my original post in this particular thread, take a moment and read each issue, they are issues not only with the Obama administration but also the bush adminstration and in some cases both, as well as a few that go back even further. If you think you have facts that counter each of those issues, than please, by all means bring these facts to light and show me specificly how I am wrong or do not know what I am talking about in each issue, preferably with the relevent text from the counstitution, founding documents, etc. Good day.