A "minority" that is sometimes overlooked

United States
July 6, 2009 11:04pm CST
There has been a few stories in political discussions that stem from people making offensive remarks towards the mentally disabled, such as Obama with his stupid Special Olympics joke, and the huffington post writer who made fun of Palins baby boy who has Down Syndrome.....I have a close friend who has DS and today she was refused service at a department store because they said they couldn't understand her when she was asking a question about a sale. I was outraged and it made me realize that people with special needs are a minority that many do have a prejudice against, but it seems to be a prejudice that does not cause widespread outrage like prejudice against a certain race does. What does everyone else think? I'm not saying that there should be less focus on racism, as anyone who knows me on here knows that I have my brother who is half black, so I understand that racism is an EXTREMELY important issue, but I look at my friend with DS, and another who has Autism, and I ask myself, why isn't America banded together to make sure that they too get treated as equals?
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@irishidid (8688)
• United States
7 Jul 09
I can't say how many times my son came home upset because someone called his sister a freak or some other name. She never cared being detached from the whole thing and being autistic she doesn't generally care what others think of her. It gets far worse. Someone came up with the bright idea that everyone, regardless of mental ability, has the right to an independent life where they make their own decisions. When it works for them great, but it doesn't always work to their benefit. I just ordered legal papers for power of attorney because of a simple meltdown when she had to talk to someone to give them permission to speak with me. I need to get guardianship of her but that costs more than power of attorney. She also hates to sign papers but if she knows she'll never have to talk on the phone again, she'll gladly sign. She has no concept of what being equal to others means. All she knows is routine.
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• United States
7 Jul 09
I know exactly what you mean, the thing that is so difficult about some people is that they cluster all people with special needs into the same category, that they are all the same. God if I could make a dollar off of every time that I had to tell people that Autism is a spectrum disease or disorder, id have a lot of money. Everyone needs to be more educated on this sort of thing so that the system and everyone can try and do what's right for each individual. Everyone needs to be treated as an equal, but anyone who needs the help to make decisions should always be given that right, it seems to me that they are forcing your daughter to make all decisions on her own because "they" think she should. I'm so sorry that you have to go through with that, and I wish that everyone in the world would wake up and realize that these issues need so much more focus on them.
@irishidid (8688)
• United States
7 Jul 09
Here's another thing. When she turned 18 we went to the social security office where they were going to decide if I should remain her representative payee. It was quickly established that she would be unable to handle her own money and I'm still her representative. They can do this without a court hearing but I have to get a lawyer and go to court to become her guardian. And I'm her mother.
• United States
7 Jul 09
I do know exactly what you mean and its all SO screwed up, I remember when I was a T.A in high school for the speciel ed. and the teachers dreaded when some of the kids turned 21 and so they couldn't go to high school anymore, because that was when many of them would face trouble. Its all so messed up, and so many parents that I have known have struggled so much just raising their kid that they don't stop and realize "whats going to happen when they turn 18 or become a legal adult?" and for people with children that cannot take care of themselves completely, these parents like you should not have to go through that, if a person can't take care of themselves, then preventing someone who loves them more than anything else from helping them in the decision in their lives is just wrong because so many could end up being harmed because they are missing the needed guidance.
@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
7 Jul 09
Here is even another minority that gets over looked, which happens to be the smallest of all the minority groups, the individual.
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@ALouie (118)
• United States
8 Jul 09
This is an inspirational answer and the key to solving issues faced by under-represented minorities. If we can run a society that respects individuals and each other's individuality then we would have no discrimination, racism, etc. There is actually an organization in Washington D.C. that promotes the idea of respecting individuality and empowering individuals, I think it is called the Ayn Rand institute. Your answer is right on target because in order for a minority group to have a voice they need to have a certain number of people (ie. enough to constitute a minority). If the individual is not protected and is part of an unrepresented minority then it is what we call "endangered".
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
7 Jul 09
I agree with you, mentally challanged Americans don't have a very loud voice and are often the subject of ridicule and rudeness. One of the nicest things about the little town I live in is the way folks here look out for each other on a regular basis. My youngest daughter went through all four years of high school here, in a very small school where all of the kids knew each other. One boy in her grade had Downs and everyone looked out for him. My daughter played the guitar and he took Band, too. He wanted to play the piano and she along with just about everyone else in the class helped him practice every day for his part in the Christmas program. His part was small...and very easy to play. He did well and when he was done the entire band stood up and applauded...all of us in the audience did, too...and he gave us a deep bow right before he high fived everyone on stage who he could reach. It was priceless. The following year he was able to play with other members of the band, again because he received so much help and support and, again, he received a standing ovation and hammed it up when he was done. The thought of someone treating him, or anyone like him, rudely ticks me off, too.
• United States
7 Jul 09
That story is so sweet and put a big smile on my face . And its stories like that I wish everyone could experience because mentally challenged people are not called "special" for nothing. My two "special" friends have brought more joy to my life than all of my other friends combined. And its so wonderful that your daughter and your town is so kind and understands how wonderful all individuals are.
• United States
7 Jul 09
See I never got the idea of someone not serving someone because of a disability or because of ethnicity. That is just bad business. That department store lost a sale and gained ill-will all at once. That just seems like a bad idea reguardless of decency concerns.
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@JodiLynn (1417)
• United States
7 Jul 09
Spicey, I hate to admit it, but I have been one of those insensitive people. I use the word "retard" for a multipurpose descriptive. Generally, it's not said with any malice. Like "Gawd, my husband is so retarded when it comes to horses!". I don't find that offensive, neither does he, but does it offend you? I worked for a small family biz a while back, the family has an autistic son, who was always a pleasure to be around. Then they hired a kid (16 yrs old) with Asbergers. One every level this kid was beyond annoying. Slow & sloppy worker, talked incessantly about nothing, ate and drank everyone's food/ drinks, begged for money, came late, left early...and I as his manager had deadlines & orders to meet, I was the one being held responsible. I lost it during a meeting with the boss, used the word retard in a very un PC way, but I really did mean what I said, the work product was NOT equal, therefor the pay should not have been equal. Why should the entire staff suffer to accommodate an unskilled, unemployable kid with a serious health/learning issue? I understand that come across as harsh, but I honestly believe there is a purpose for all of us, somewhere in this great world. We are all flawed in some way, we tend to forget that to often.
@irishidid (8688)
• United States
7 Jul 09
I had written a long response that got lost in internet land but I'll try again. LOL As a mom of a disabled daughter, I'm not offended. I've used the retarded word myself and actually do get flack for using it. "You're the last person who should be talking that way!" Whatever! I totally understand your frustration but I also understand the kid whose life is dictated by his asperger syndrome. He really can't help himself. I know other asperger kids who act the same exact way. I don't know what tasks he had with the job but wonder if he should have been given less to do. My daughter worked summers with the high school in a work program for special needs. When she couldn't fold papers to put in envelopes they found something else for her to do on those days. When the work is beyond the ability of the disabled person it does affect everyone. My daughter will begin professional cooking classes in August. I'm fairly sure she would not be able to handle the stress of a restaurant kitchen but I know that she could handle a small catering business. The work has to reflect the ability.
@irishidid (8688)
• United States
7 Jul 09
It didn't bother me. I get more bothered by the creepy crying parents of autistic children. Trust me, I know it's difficult but if I had to go through my child's life crying about it that accomplishes nothing. I'd rather laugh and joke while finding the humor in those "autistic" moments. I have enough serious issues to deal with her.
@JodiLynn (1417)
• United States
7 Jul 09
Thank you for your gentle reply...I thought I was gonna take a hit for this post. To me the R word is just a verb. like "fat" is just a verb. I took a ration for not being compassionate to over weight people, because I feel that if you take up two seats, you should have to pay for two seats (on aircraft/bus/train etc..). How those people (over large)equate their "inequality" with true minorities is puzzling to me.
@jb78000 (15139)
7 Jul 09
i don't really have any family or friends that suffer from autism but i do have one friend who has mild downs syndrome and she feels very self conscious about doing anything even though her iq as tested is normal. i think she gets idiotic abuse when working because she looks a little handicapped.
• United States
7 Jul 09
I know that you are from the U.K but I really hope that things work the same as here, and that if your friend is getting verbally or any kind of abuse from co-workers, then she should report them and they should be fired. This is the exact thing that I am talking about, if my brother got made fun of because he is half black, his coworkers would be fired so fast that their heads would spin....but if a disabled person is made fun of, what happens? I know that my friends have held many jobs and a few coworkers made fun of them and all the coworkers got was a few slap on the wrists. It's just all wrong to me.
@jb78000 (15139)
7 Jul 09
you're right but she is basically unhappy with the handicap she was born with, even if it didn't turn out to be that bad, and won't say whoever is coming out with stupid abuse. it's probably just customers, i think her co-workers are ok.
@jb78000 (15139)
7 Jul 09
and if i did find out who was doing it i would have to stop myself jumping in there and bashing the s**** out of them - that obviously wouldn't help but certain things get me very angry
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
7 Jul 09
If one thinks about it, we are ALL in a minority of some sort. but as Rollo said in a response below, this is a minority with out a voice, they won't protests, they won't for the most part fight the system. I despise prejudice againt any other person for any other reason but this is an area that raises my anger more than any other.
@irishidid (8688)
• United States
7 Jul 09
I've had to be my daughter's voice and while there are laws set up to help it is harder than hell to get them followed. I spent years trying to get them to provide a laptop or similar in school for my daughter because she has dysgraphia. The law in my state is that if it is a necessity the school has to provide it. Finally, they provided an Alpha Smart in the 8th grade when the teachers started complaining they could no longer read her writing. I've dealt with IEPs not being followed, school officials deciding they knew better than I did as to what her needs were, and social security itself, that at one time deemed her miraculously cured.
@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
7 Jul 09
I had forgotten about that Special Olympics joke. You'd think anyone who figured they were smart enough to be president would be smart enough not to say anything like that. The problem is that they are the minority without a voice. They aren't going to march through Washington, they aren't going to stage protests. No one views them as a voting bloc that must be courted. As much as people disliked Sarah Palin talking about her son Trig, she was a voice for the disabled on a national stage that everyone could hear. If we want to truly call ourselves human beings, our concern for others must extend beyond those who can articulate their needs, we must be extra sensitive to those whose voice may never be heard without careful listening. Those with special needs must be given the opportunity to succeed where they can and support in the areas where they can't succeed on their own. Those who are involved in their lives - family, friends, employers, social workers - whoever they are, must be the ones to speak up and be a voice that demands to be heard. People need exposure to the problems faced by those with developmental disabilities and mental challenges. Otherwise, there will always be this gap in understanding and prejudice against them may never be overcome.
• China
8 Jul 09
Can you tell me about Special Olympic joke of Obama? What's that?
• United States
8 Jul 09
He said that he was so bad at bowling that a person at the Special Olympics could beat him.
• United States
7 Jul 09
I hadn't heard of Obama's comment. Wow. I bet if it had been George Bush who had said something that we'd be hearing it over and over again and he'd be under fire! It nearly enrages me to hear of that store refusing service to your friend. Does that store refuse service to everyone they can't understand? How ridiculous and cruel. Disabilities, whether mental or physical, are not as big of an issue as they should be when it comes to minorities. Perhaps because they are not as immediately noticeable. That doesn't make it right, of course. I agree with you that it is an issue as important as race and racism. People just don't seem to be as aware of it.