Can you imagine an AC writer disappointed with 20,000 page views per day?

@scheng1 (24701)
Singapore
July 9, 2009 7:31am CST
Robert Dougherty made this remark in AC forum, "For me, my standards were relatively low in the early going, but nowadays, anything below 10,000 per day- even below 20,000 a day- is kind of disappointing." It takes me a few months to reach my first 10,000 page views, and this Clout 10 writer is making this kind of comment! He has 1,765 articles, with less than 2 years in AC. At the rate of $2 per 1,000 page views, he will make $40 per day on performance bonus alone if the average page views are 20,000 per day. Wonder when I can see this kind of money! Even Clout 10 seems so far away at this moment. What is your average page views per day? How many years of writing do you think you need to reach an averge page views of 20,000 per day?
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7 responses
@peavey (16956)
• United States
9 Jul 09
I don't know how many page views I'm getting there right now, but I don't write very often for them, once a month, if that. I think some of these people consider it a full time job and spend hours each day creating content and promoting it. If I did that, I would expect 20,000 pvs each day and more. I doubt it would take as long as it may seem to start making decent money there. Just adding a link from my blog increased my page views considerably for awhile, so if I worked at getting articles linked from lots of places, the page views would definitely go up.
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@peavey (16956)
• United States
9 Jul 09
Really? From everything I've read, I assumed they promoted their work. I don't see how they can get very high page views without doing that. I had a following at one time that brought me over a million page views each month (not on AC) and I never quit promoting. It's the best tactic to gain readers that there is, along with SEO.
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@peavey (16956)
• United States
9 Jul 09
"Many of them also aim to get the articles pick up by Wall Streets Journal or other sites. As long as there is a link to AC, the page view will spike." That's exactly what I mean by promoting an article. That IS promotion. Also, they should understand that the more links you have back to the article, the higher your search engine rating will be. Search engines do send the most traffic, and having links from other sites (promoting) increases the chances of being seen on the first page of a search result.
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@Canellita (12052)
• United States
10 Jul 09
I searched my name yesterday and found some of my articles have been indexed. I am looking ahead now to write for Halloween and other holidays so that when people start searching my articles will be found. I have also been paying attention to my use of key words from the title to increase the density in my articles. This is something I would not have done before the internet.
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• United States
10 Jul 09
I have been writing for more than 2 years on A.C. and am a 9. I get around 15,000 page views a month! I was pleased to see that my monthly amount went over $25. Some people just want it all.
@scheng1 (24701)
• Singapore
10 Jul 09
Hi Susie, that is fantastic by my standard. My monthly page views never exceed 7,000 yet. I have not even reached Clout 7 yet, so the monthly performance bonus has not reached $10 yet. I will be very glad to make $10 performance bonus per month. Feel so angry to see someone not satisfied with 20,000 page views per day. I think I can take life easy if I can make 20,000 page views per day. That will work out to be $40 x 30 = $1,200 per month. Convert to the Singapore Dollars, it is slightly less than S$1,600. That will be great!
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• United States
10 Jul 09
My husband writes too, Len Slade, and he is a 6, he gets $2 and change a month. He is happy with that. It is the upfront payments that make us the money.
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@scheng1 (24701)
• Singapore
10 Jul 09
Hi Susie, the upfront payment really makes a lot of difference. I only earn upfront from Helium. At the present, it is just $1.50 per article. Fortunately Helium does not require exclusive rights, so I can repost the article in AC. If I have to rely on performance bonus alone, there is no point writing. Hardly can earn anything just on page views alone.
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@jakeb1 (562)
• United States
13 Jul 09
That comment is just amazing. I don't even have 10,000 page views yet and that guy is complaining about getting 20,000 page views per day. He has a huge library of articles and writes at least 4 a day. I joined recently this year and average about 80-100 views a day and I am satisfied.
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@scheng1 (24701)
• Singapore
13 Jul 09
Hi Jakeb, his comment really makes my blood boil for a minute! It takes me a few months to get the first 10,000 page views, and he's complaining about 20,000 daily page views! On positive note, at least we know that someone can make money in AC on page views payment alone. His performance bonus exceeded a thousand bucks every month at this rate, far more than the upfront payment that many AC writers rely on. For me, as international writer, the income is from page views only. I will be very happy to make even $20 a month from page view.
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10424)
• United States
10 Jul 09
Good grief! He finds less than that disappointing? I am still waiting to reach 2,000 page views for all time lol. I would be happy happy with his views and income! I have no idea how long it would take to reach that amount for me! Karen
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@scheng1 (24701)
• Singapore
10 Jul 09
Hi Karen, maybe when you reach two thousand articles, you will be disappointed with 10,000 page views per day too. I'm still so far behind, can't even imagine average page view of a thousand a day, much less 20,000 per day. I think this writer can even make a full time living out of writing for AC.
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@mommaj (22872)
• United States
16 Jul 09
AWWW, scheng don't worry about that fool. He constantly writes articles and posts. You will get there soon. Your articles are great and entertaining. I don't know what my pv a day are. I know I make about $25 a month off of page views. I think that's pretty decent. I really want my articles to average 400 pv each so I can earn the $7 upfront payments. Right now my upfronts aren't good. Wish me luck because I have a lot of writing to do in the upcoming weeks when my kids go back to school. Keep your chin up and your pencil to the paper, my chisel is always on a rock.HAHA. I am sure you will get your income up shortly.
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@scheng1 (24701)
• Singapore
17 Jul 09
haha Mommaj, I think he will chisel your head when he sees you calling him "that fool"! Since "that fool" can make so much a day, as much as $40 in performance bonus per day, maybe we should join the rank of the "foolish", and be doubly foolish than him, I bet earning $80 per day shouldn't be too difficult then! Glad to see Mommaj pops out of Stone Age! *scratch head* did you say you are taking a holidsy from laughing? Now that you are back, you can laugh as much as you want, just dont twist your stomach oh!
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@mommaj (22872)
• United States
17 Jul 09
My poor tummy. I can't imagine making $40 a day in page views. I think $1 a day is good. LOL Guess I need to set my sights higher! Much higher! If I get to that point I will be dancing in the streets and you can all write articles about crazy woman makes money online. HAHAHA
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@scheng1 (24701)
• Singapore
18 Jul 09
haha Mommaj, by then the New York Times will put you in the front page! I think the appropriate title will be "making $40 a day makes Mommaj mad", and the editorial commentary will say that making $40 a day is not even enough to pay for room and board at the mental institution. The editors will admonish those who want to go mad to make at least $400 a day before going mad.
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@Canellita (12052)
• United States
9 Jul 09
Some people are just never satisfied. This person would likely complain if he had one million pages views. He may also be jealous of the people who get more views and make more money. Didn't you recently tell us about a woman who claims to make $500 a month?
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@Canellita (12052)
• United States
9 Jul 09
Is there a way other than the comments to find out how many page views an article receives on AC? Helium itemizes your earnings for each article which lets you know which are preforming best. I have a couple things I need to finish up and submit to AC, which I plan to do in the coming weeks.
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@Canellita (12052)
• United States
10 Jul 09
Thanks! I found the pages but I am confused about something. For two of my slideshows the status is incomplete. What does that mean? Also, what are the Daily Page View Reports? Do you have to go to the website to check them? Which days are best or worst for views?
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@scheng1 (24701)
• Singapore
10 Jul 09
Hi Canellita, I always have connecting problems with AC when uploading images. So I have to close the window, and restart AC page. Actually the incomplete slide was saved in the system, but when I started a new one with the same title, the old one would still be there, and the status "incomplete". The link to your daily page view report is found on the Account page, just beside the estimated Performance PV.
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@oscar6 (1939)
• United States
17 Jun 11
I am currently at clout level ten and I am not seeing that kind of money. However I just reached that level this week. I dont have as many articles written as he does though. I think I have a little over two hundred and fifty. I think that it will take me several more years to get that many views per day. I hope to eventually get that much.
@scheng1 (24701)
• Singapore
18 Jun 11
Hi Oscar, there are many writers in Associated Content with more than 10 million page views already. I think those are the ones who are very passionate about writing, and treat it as a full time employment. Most of us are just content with a few hundred page views per day.