Is there a limit on leapfrogging for Helium? Also, what does 0/0 mean?
By AnythngArt
@AnythngArt (3302)
United States
July 9, 2009 10:29am CST
I have some questions about leapfrogging. Is there a limit on how many times you can leapfrog an article? Also when you leapfrog an article, and it says "0/0" by the leap, what does that mean? That people liked the old article better? Can anyone enlighten me?
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@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
9 Jul 09
Hi Art, so far I never hear anyone talking about limit on leapfrogging any article. There is a time limit of a week, before you can leapfrog the article again. Anyway, at any given time, we have only 20 leapfrogs. It is possible to use up all the leapfrogs, if you leapfrog ten articles per day.
When you see 0/0, that means the writers approve your leapfrog, and your new article is now showing, the old article becomes 0/0. Sometimes those stupid writers reject the better article, and accepts the old article which is full of mistakes!
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@AnythngArt (3302)
• United States
10 Jul 09
I typically don't have many mistakes; I am just trying to get the article to move up in the queue. There must be some articles you can't leapfrog. For example, I wrote an article about fashion trends for the summer and it had 2007 on it, and it would not allow me to leapfrog. (It didn't even give me that option.) That's one of those cases where I wish I could just delete it. I can't change my place in line or leapfrog.
How much do you leapfrog? Do you do it every day? I usually only do it once a week or once every two weeks.
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@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
10 Jul 09
Hi Art, I think your article happens to be in a closed title.
Helium closes some titles, especially those titles with too many articles or have dates associated with the titles.
Right now, after the title splitting campaign, they are going to close those titles with ten articles, so that no article can be added in.
Some writers were ranting in the forum about the rating system. They wrote to contest title. After submission, they found out a few typos and grammar mistakes, so they leapfrog the articles to get rid of the mistakes. However, the articles without mistakes were rejected! They were ranting because those were contest titles, they would lose out by submitting articles with typos or grammar mistakes
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@Canellita (12029)
• United States
16 Sep 09
I leapfrogged an article recently to move it up and it didn't move! I am thinking of giving it one more go as I am convinced I can make it reach number 1. This is the only one I have leapfrogged and there are maybe two others I want to try.
@mrtimharry (1180)
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9 Jul 09
I have leapfrogged the same article five or six times in the last year so would guess that there is no limit to the number of times it can be leapfrogged, save for the limit of once in seven days.
Sometimes an old article is better than the rework, I know that on occassion I have leapfrogged and missed some spelling mistakes causing that result for my leapfrog.
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@AnythngArt (3302)
• United States
10 Jul 09
Most of the time when I am leapfrogging something, it's not because I don't like the first article. It's just an effort to move the article up in the queue. I guess that's why I find it such a pointless exercise. However, one must do that not to have their articles linger at the bottom indefinitely.
I am often surprised, however, when I see leapfrogged articles, and all the wrong spellings and bad grammar are still there. A lot of times, all people do is create paragraphs or add headings, and leave the same material in place.
How often do you leapfrog?
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@mrtimharry (1180)
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10 Jul 09
Normally try and do ten a week and do most of them on a Sunday, although if I see that one of my high earning articles has dropped I will try and see why and possibly leapfrog straightaway. Although often articles drop for a day and then rise again without me needing to leapfrog
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@Canellita (12029)
• United States
10 Jul 09
The other thing is when the old article was full of mistakes such as spelling and verb tenses and none of those things have been fixed in the new version. I will always veto a leapfrog in that situation. Some people apparently don't understand that they need to actually rewrite.
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@AnythngArt (3302)
• United States
10 Jul 09
I agree with you. Sometimes, there are identical bad articles...makes you wonder what they think the leapfrog does? Do you leapfrog at all? How often?
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@Canellita (12029)
• United States
10 Jul 09
I haven't leapfrogged anything as of yet. I have 40+ articles with about 30% in competitive titles which keeps my writing score up. Last time I checked it was a little over 92%.
Most of my articles are 1 of 1. The rest are mostly in the top 3 with a couple in the top 10. My lowest ranked article is 10 of 57, it's a reflection. That number fluctuates from time to time but it has never been below 10. I contemplate leapfrogging periodically because it drives me crazy that it is ranked at #10.
It's good to know I have the option to leapfrog down the road should I need to do so.
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@Sandra1952 (6047)
• Spain
10 Jul 09
I only leapfrog for typos, or if some of the information becomes outdated, as I would rather come up with new articles than go over old ground. If Helium admin was judging the leapfrogs, I would do it a lot more, but under the present system, I don't think it makes enough difference to the article rankings to be worth the effort.
Strangely enough, my highest earning article on Helium has always been ranked 3 of 3, and it hasn't been up there for that long, which tends to make me question the effectiveness of the rating system. I mean,my writing peers don't rate the article, but my reading public obviously do, as I have earned one tenth of my total Helium revenue from a single article out of almost 200. Still, as long as I'm earning steadily, which I am, I'm happy on Helium.
@AnythngArt (3302)
• United States
3 Aug 09
My best selling article is not a number one article either, come to think of it. That's the kind of thing that makes me shake my head and wonder how effective the whole rating system really is. What can we do, we're stuck with it?
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