Impeach Obama and them other idiots!

United States
July 9, 2009 11:58am CST
No, seriously. This is stupid and before it gets worse I think that we should impeach the man and get someone who can actually do the job instead of making America a weak, secondrate country that the world can just laugh at!
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@fwidman (11515)
• United States
9 Jul 09
Before you can impeach the President, he actually has to do something terribly wrong or illegal. So far, I haven't seen Obama do anything impeachable. He may not be liked by everyone, but no President ever is
@irishidid (8716)
• United States
9 Jul 09
Yes he has. When he fired the inspector general without following the law. It was the same thing that got Andrew Johnson impeached.
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@fwidman (11515)
• United States
9 Jul 09
I see you follow the news much more closely than I. I didn't know that he had fired the inspector general. Hell, I didn't even know we had an Inspector General
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• United States
9 Jul 09
Nice! I didn't know that, but now I do. See, we have grounds, so why aren't we doing it???? Oh wait...that obamaist! *rolls eyes* (lol)
@xfahctor (14126)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
9 Jul 09
As much as I agrea with the spirit of your thread (the whole "and all them other idtiots" thing) we cannot simply impeach with impunity, were that the case, we would have the most unstable government on the planet. That being said, I am in agreament, it is time for a good house cleaning. I can point to numerous constitutional crimes and circumventions by all branches and both major parties. In short, the problem is the parasitic infection that has taken over the whole system. this is a rant I am noted for on this board....yeh yeh, I know I can hear the groans already...so to those who know me and have seen this numerous times already, I apologize, just recite it in unison for the rest of the new incomming class....altogether now 1...2...3 The federal government exists only as an agent of the states and people. It was created when the states entered in to contract with each other through the constitution. The federal government does not even exist with out the states' consent and only as long as each state abides by the terms of that contract. That agent created, was created as a subserviant agent to carry out the common interests of the states, such as interstate trade, national defense, international relations and trade monetary policy, etc. What we have allowed to happen is the general government has become an entity of it's own, instead of a collection of the states citizens. It has taken on a life of it's own and taken powers never granted to it by the states. In short, we have allowed the servant to become the master. Being the agent created by the constitution, the contract if you will, it is bound by the terms of that contract. It is in fact in breech of it, something that itself should have been impossible because the contract wasn't between the states and the federal government, it was a contract between the states. See what I am getting at with that particular point? So what must happen now is we must begin reigning in this agent again. We must do so through our states. Our states own that general government, we run it, it doesn't run the states. This problem must therefor be dealt with from the states up. Our states have the power to stand up and do this, it is guaranteed through out the constitution, particularly the 9th and 10th amendments. We must elect state governments that do this, elect state governments with back bones and understanding of what their propper role is and what the propper role of the general government is. Demand this...it is essential. ****cartoon stick figure steps off soap box and walks off stage.
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• United States
9 Jul 09
*claps* Very nice. However, we cannot be divided on this issue, we need to become the majority to get anything done. I suppose we could always abolish the whole thing and start from scratch.
@xfahctor (14126)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
9 Jul 09
That is of course the nuke option, abolishment. But it doesn't have to come to that, As far as being divided, it doesn't mean being devided at all, I am only refering to the level at which me must attack this problem. We do it where we have the most ammo, the best defenses and the best weapons (figuratively speaking)...all of which sit at the state level, remember, our federal government is for the most part subserviant and run by the states, not by it's own. the federal government has power with out them that we haven't granted it. It doesn't even exist with out us.
• United States
9 Jul 09
I believe that we can fix this with the use of law that the dems use to their own advantage, why not take their own weapons and use it against them?
@maezee (39818)
• United States
9 Jul 09
When Obama stepped in, we were pretty much a country that the world could laugh at anyway due to the Bush admin. I think HE did things that could have got him impeached by the American people. But I think we really just need to wait and see. Obama may not be a saint, but at least he's better than his predecessor so far. And by the way..What's your intention with this discussion? Upsetting people or just plain starting arguments?
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• United States
9 Jul 09
Hi maezee, I think the discussion is only to shed truth and light on the subject.
• United States
9 Jul 09
I want to see who else supports me. Its only an arguement if people take my words as being agrestic.
@Rollo1 (16648)
• Boston, Massachusetts
9 Jul 09
The Constitution provides that" "The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors." The terms high crimes and misdemeanors has not been defined by the Constitution, but leaves this open to interpretation, the interpretation of which may be then decided upon by the legislature of the time in which the offenses occur. The offenses do not have to be indictable. Generally they can be seen as attempts to expand power beyond what is allowed in the Constititution. Dean John D. Feerick of Fordham University School of Law, wrote in an article published in 1984, "Most authorities agree--and the precedents are in accord--that an impeachable offense is not limited to conduct which is indictable. Conduct that undermines the integrity of a public office or is in disregard of constitutional duties or involves abuse of power is generally regarded as grounds for impeachment. Since impeachment is a drastic sanction, the misconduct must be substantial and serious." What has Obama done that may fit these criteria? Well, he has broken the law (a law he voted for while in Congress) when he fired the independent Inspector General who investigated the misuse of federal funds (and used them for his own personal expenses) by a friend and supporter of Barack Obama. The law calls for a 30 day notice to Congress and that Congress be provided with the reason for wishing to fire the IG. This is to insure that the Inspector Generals may remain independent and investigate without political pressure. This IG was fired via phone call that gave him one hour to resign or be fired without notice to Congress and without written reasons given to Congress. Two other IGs have been fired by the administration or its extended offices. This is something of a purge of those who are investigating issues sensitive to the president. Additionally, he has created several "czars" who oversee and have powers but do not report to Congress but only to the president. They cannot be fired, censured or monitored by any other branch of the government. This disrupts any hope of the system of checks and balances from reining in the president's power. I would also include his expansion of the federal government in many areas but I think that the two things above show that he is ruling by executive order rather than governing with the consent of the governed which is his duty per the Constitution.
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• United States
9 Jul 09
I love you! I say we all e-mail our reresentatives and call for Impeachment! If we don't nip it in the bud than no one can, we the people are the check that are underestimated. I think I shall write to my congress men/woman and the Representatives on this issue.
@ParaTed2k (22977)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
9 Jul 09
As much as I dislike the job Obama's doing, you can't just make a blanket statement about impeaching him. You have to come up with a specific action he has done and come up with arguments about why that action qualifies as "high crimes and misdemeanors". For example, he is a blatant communist and is working hard to make the US a communist nation. However, there is nothing illegal or unconstitutional about communism itself, so that isn't an impeachable offense. So please give examples of what he's done and why it qualifies him for impeachment.
• United States
9 Jul 09
He isn't a communist, where did you get that? Honestly you ain't makin' any sense mate! It's socialism, and he's much better at agreeing with foreign policy over letting us go to the beat of our own flute. He owns the banks, he's using OUR MONEY to pay for stuff that's not needed and not giving us any say about it. He also fired the Attorney General and didn't go by the law, so that's an impeachable offence as someone else has pointed out, savvy? and, I really don't need to make a point, I am only saying what others can't because they don't want to offend the obamaists! I don't care, really, because someone has to point this stuff out!
@ParaTed2k (22977)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
9 Jul 09
If you're going to make charges against him, it is up to you to specify what you think he's done. Obama is a communist, yes he is using socialism as a vehicle to get the US to become a Communist state, but don't let that fool you. The only thing you mentioned that is actually illegal is the firing of the Attorney General... the funny part of that is, it wasn't illegal until a bill was passed that made it illegal... that bill had Sen. Obama's name on it. ;~D The rest of your examples show why he's pretty scummy, but sadly, scumminess isn't an impeachable offense. ;~D
• United States
9 Jul 09
The Ameircan people can abolish government that is detrimental to our happiness, and Obama created the Czars that are countable to no one which isn't how our Government is supposed to work. Basically, he gets to tell them what to do and they do it, he doesn't have to go through congress to do it. Savvy?
@clutterbug (1051)
• United States
9 Jul 09
I'm not a liberal, but those are fighten' words to them, lol. I think that trampling all over our Constitution is grounds enough for Obama's impeachment. If he's given enough rope I think he'll hang himself. We still have a few years of him left. We are being laughed at by other countries, for sure...
• United States
9 Jul 09
totally. I guess it'd be better to let him hang himself. He's well on the way of doing it. I just think its a mockery, his stupid appologizing for stuff that we didn't do. We didn't start the war with the terrorists, they Murdered thousands upon thousands of people. They are to blame for the whole Iraque situation.
@us2owls (1681)
• United States
9 Jul 09
Its a good idea. He should be impeached for refusing to show a valid birth certificate besdies his failure to run our country properly but then how are we going to get it done when his back scratching butt kissing Democrats have the majority. If he had any sense at all he would immediately get rid of his lying Speaker - Pelosi.
• United States
9 Jul 09
*lol* Totally, she called people who are Christians, Republicans and believe in pro-life Terrorists along with those who have faught on our behalf. She is delusional if she thinks we'll take that and her half hearted apology lying down.