The BC Plot Thickens

@clrumfelt (5597)
Tennessee Ridge, Tennessee
July 17, 2009 9:47am CST
Orly Taitz, a tenacious lawyer bent on forcing Obama to prove his citizenship by producing documentation, is at it again. It seems a soldier in the U.S. Army, Major Stefan Frederick Cook refused to go to Afghanistan saying that President Obama cannot be Commander in Chief since he is not a U.S. citizen. The soldier's lawyer, Orly Taitz, has challenged Obama's legitimacy before. Taitz contends that Cook “would be acting in violation of international law by engaging in military actions outside the United States under this President’s command. ... simultaneously subjecting himself to possible prosecution as a war criminal by the faithful execution of these duties.” Maybe she is onto something here.
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@us2owls (1681)
• United States
17 Jul 09
I hope she wins and gets this man out of office.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
17 Jul 09
actually, I hope all the pressure to get to the truth proves that he is, in fact, eligible. I hate to even think about the constitutional crisis if it turns out that he isn't. As horrid a president as he's turning out to be, it's nothing compared to the hell we'll go through if he isn't. That being said, the question does need to be answered one way or the other.
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@clrumfelt (5597)
• Tennessee Ridge, Tennessee
18 Jul 09
It would be a cataclysmic change for the USA, possible resulting in unimaginable violence in our streets, but we have undergone lesser domestic conflicts before in the race riots and Vietnam War protests. I think the country would be able to overcome the crises and ultimately be better off.
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@clrumfelt (5597)
• Tennessee Ridge, Tennessee
17 Jul 09
So do I. At the least perhaps it will force full disclosure of some of Obama's well-guarded information.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
18 Jul 09
She's right. The Major would be considered a criminal if he obeyed an order by an illegal president. Mind you that did not help the German Soldiers in World War II that were just following orders by their legal dictator, but that only was for crimes against humanity such as gassing people in concentration camps, going against the rules of war, etc. However, when the one giving the command, the Commander In Chief is himself an usurper with no legitimate claim, even legal wars, that is wars against a terrorist enemy such as the Taliban, are themselves considered illegal. And if it were found out that Obama really should not have been the president of the States, those soldiers who obeyed his command might be subject to prosecution. So Major Stefan Frederick Cook did the right thing by refusing and Obama has to produce evidence that is an American born citizen. As for my views, I doubt he is a citizen, because the way he acted in some things is against the American way of life.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
2 Aug 09
Unless they make a law up and I think they did that only people of importance can bring a suit against Obama. But a major is important, is he not? And thaks for the best response.
@clrumfelt (5597)
• Tennessee Ridge, Tennessee
20 Jul 09
Major Cook has a good basis for his lawsuit. Hopefully, his case will cause some judges to look seriously at the issue.
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• United States
17 Jul 09
Yes, Orly Taitz is on to something. Other forums whether left or right are discussing this. Most people left or right agree the Major was correct to question his orders. People on the right see it as undermining President 0bama while many on the left like the idea of challenging the war. Orly Taitz and her client came up with a brillant idea.
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@clrumfelt (5597)
• Tennessee Ridge, Tennessee
17 Jul 09
Major Cook isn't challenging the war, he is challenging whether it is legal for him to serve under orders by someone who is fraudulently leading a country.
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• United States
17 Jul 09
Good point. Thanks, for the clarification.
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@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
17 Jul 09
When his lawsuit was granted a hearing, the army suddenly revoked his orders. Revoking his orders would, of course, make the lawsuit go away and no danger that a court could order Obama to show his birth certificate. But what happened next is even more damaging to the Obama administration in my view. The Pentagon told Major Cook's employer Simtech to fire him. That's right, the government told a private employer to fire someone they have a beef with. The whole thing stinks and is getting smellier.
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@clrumfelt (5597)
• Tennessee Ridge, Tennessee
17 Jul 09
I agree it stinks. The more Obama is allowed to take over the economy and have control over government entities, the more people are going to suffer. People who have gotten too close to his information have been murdered. Intimidation is a strong motivator to keep quite about something.
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• United States
18 Jul 09
I think this is so funny. Now we have a republican that wants to pick and choose which international law they want to follow. When members of the Bush administration were brought up on charges, republicans attacked international law. Now they want to use it? Sounds like hypocracy to me.
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@piasabird (1737)
• United States
18 Jul 09
Yeah, but what do you think about the soldier's orders being recinded?
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• United States
18 Jul 09
I think this is sad, I have friends in the military, and they all know that they are there to do a job (one that they do better than anyone in the world). When the president orders them to go to war, then it is their job to follow his orders. I remember when the Iraq war started, and a few men fought their orders, and repulbicans attacked them for not doing their job. So what do you republicans have to say about this? If this guy refused to do his job, then he should be treated like those that wouldn't fight durning the Iraq war. Doesn't that sound fair?
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• United States
18 Jul 09
Piasa, I did notice that you didn't answer my question. Which international laws should we follow? And, if we decide to follow one, then we should follow all of them.
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