Now who do you wish won the presidency?

@Rootmere (133)
United States
July 19, 2009 2:01am CST
Now that President Obama has been in office for a bit, and we have witnessed his actions first hand. How do you feel about Obama now? Do you think he is lacking? or do you think he's doing a great job?
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
19 Jul 09
If I could choose anyone seeing what's happening now, I'd say Ron Paul. I think it would have been our big chance for a real change and we finally could have cut some wasteful government spending.
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• United States
19 Jul 09
Taskr, I like Ron Paul as well, but I just don't see the RNC allowing to him to get that far. He would be a great leader, but he is going to have to pull a H Ross Perot in order to make that next step (which could happen if the economy doesn't turn around, and the GOP continues to alienate everyone).
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
19 Jul 09
I don't see the GOP alienating anyone, but I agree, that he might do well to pull a Perot. Perot didn't even come close to getting the republican nomination in '92, but made the first serious white house run for an independent candidate in decades. Ron Paul's real opponents though would be the media. He ran a brilliant internet campaign last year, but it still wasn't enough for him to be known by the masses. I'm sure you remember how easily the media shut down Ross Perot in 96 by refusing to let him participate in debates and not allowing him to have any airtime that he didn't pay for out of his own pocket. As a result he had half the votes in his second run that he got in his first.
• United States
19 Jul 09
I know that I will get hit hard on this, but I think that he is doing as good as can be expected given the economy. I really don't think the country would be any better if McCain was running it, I think it would actually be worse. I think the expectations of what he could do were high, and if he can pull the country out of this great recession in less than 3 years than I don't know how you can be upset by this. The country was in the worse fincial condition in decades when he took over, now you see corporations talking about growth in this quarter, and most are expecting more in the next. If this works out like they are saying, then I wouldn't put any money on Obama drowning anytime soon.
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
19 Jul 09
"....and if he can pull the country out of this great recession in less than 3 years than I don't know how you can be upset by this." I guess the first thing that strikes me is that the operative word is "if". As complex and deeply rooted situation as this is, no one was going to "pull us out of it" in any short order, even by the right methods, which I feel we are clearly not using (though that is another thread topic altogether), McCain wouldn't have been able to, Barr wouldn't have, Baldwin wouldn't have, nor would any of them have been able to quicjk fix this....there is no quick fix. The other thing that strikes me is, how much are people willing to sacrifice for the illusion of a quick fix? How much of your economic freedom are you willing to give up for the feeling of economic security? Or how much are we willing to toughen up and deal with in i the interest of implimentin long term solutions for deeply complex and long term problems?
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@N4life (851)
• United States
19 Jul 09
I have to agree with there is no short term solution to this crisis. The American economy has been in a free fall for years with interludes of theric getting richer and the middle class maintaining. I think Obama is attempting a long term fix with things like energy and health care reform but this will not bring back good paying jobs overnight.
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• United States
19 Jul 09
X, remember Bush Sr. couldn't get the country out of the Reagan recession, it took Clinton to do that. Sometimes there are things that you just can't control, and I hope that this isn't one of them. "The other thing that strikes me is, how much are people willing to sacrifice for the illusion of a quick fix? How much of your economic freedom are you willing to give up for the feeling of economic security? Or how much are we willing to toughen up and deal with in i the interest of implimentin long term solutions for deeply complex and long term problems?" This is how I felt about the Patriot Act, I understand exactly what you are saying. It is much like buying a house near a job that you want to get. If you don't get the job then you just spent money for nothing, and are in the same situation (if not worse) then you were before. I agree that some of the tactics used by Obama are not proven to create jobs, or spur the economy. But, some of them are proven, and "hopefully" those that aren't given turn out to be.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
19 Jul 09
I think he's doing just fine considering what he's dealing with. Are there a few things I'd have preferred he'd done different? Sure. I think there should have been more infrastructure spending in the stimulus bill but he wanted to give the impression of being "bipartisan" which didn't work anyway since the Republicans were just determined not to go along with anything the President wanted. I have no regrets about my vote and I really don't foresee changing my mind. This is one rare time when I must agree with Rose that voting for a third party candidate would be throwing my vote away and there's no scenario I could ever dream of where I could say we'd be better off with McCain/Palin. Annie
@bestboy19 (5478)
• United States
20 Jul 09
Does that sound right, "he wanted to give the IMPRESSION of being bipartisan?" And then you go on to say, "the Republicans were just determined not to go along with anything the President wanted." If Obama was just giving the, "IMPRESSION," of being bipartisan, then it doesn't sound as though he intended to work with the Republicans any more than you think they planned to work with him. If you thought someone was doing something wrong or harmful, would you go along just to get along? Many of the Republicans don't go along with Obama's policies because they think they will do more harm than good. There were Democrats that didn't go along with Bush. It works both ways.
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
19 Jul 09
Almost ANYONE but Obama or McCain. Obama is what I consider a tragic figure. A great motivator who could do so much, but chose a path so in oposition to what our founders envisioned. Personaly, I voted for Chuck Baldwin. I was torn between him and Bob Barr. I also wished Ron Paul had won the primaries.
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@iriscot (1289)
• United States
19 Jul 09
This thread is going nowwhere but around in circles!
@iriscot (1289)
• United States
19 Jul 09
Oops... typo I meant no-where...
@andy77e (5156)
• United States
20 Jul 09
Anyone but Obama. Other than him, anyone other than McCain. Preferably Fred Thompson or Ron Paul.
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@missybal (4490)
• United States
19 Jul 09
I'm so glad I voted for McCain and not Obama. Not that I was thrilled about McCain but looking at the way McCain has voted since the election tells me we would have been better off with him. It would have prevented such massive deficits, although I realize he would not have been able to get much done because the democrats having control of both houses it would have been nothing but veto after veto... but I believe the markets and unemployment rates would have stablized to a certain degree even improved because if washington couldn't pass anything it would allow the free market to fix itself, and the companies that should go bankrupt to go bankrupt and let new companies take shape. Coming from a background of business men and women I know that a big issue the businesses large and small is that all this massive debt is causing businesses to cut make employees and pay raises because they know that they will get hit with the bill. My father is watching right now as a lot of the companies he use to do business with just say the heck with it and retire because they know they won't profit with Obama and the Democrat's policies and with the future health care bill the Democrats are trying to push it will only make it more difficult to provide employee benefits at the level the employees deserve.
@Arkie69 (2156)
• United States
19 Jul 09
I wish now that Mike Huckabee, the former Arkansas Governor had gotten it. Personally I believe Obama was about the worst choice we could have made. Not because he is half black because I see him as much white as he is black. That is no different than being half French and Half Irish or any other combination. The biggest problem I have with Obama is he is a do nothing type of man that refuses to stand up at the plate and take a swing. He is not going to put himself in a position where he can be blamed for anything. At least that's what he thinks he is doing. I liked Huckabee's flat rate income tax idea. It would save the tax payers a lot of money. Not only would our taxes be less but the cost of keeping books on our taxes would also be less not to mention the fact there would no longer be a need for IRS and that would save us billions every year. The only problem I saw with Huckabee's flat tax idea is I doubt if the rich members of Government and the rich outside the Government would allow it. Another problem I see with Obama is the fact he is loosing more and more of the support of the people he had when he took office. Even if Obama did try to do something right Congress would block him one way or the other. As long as he goes along with all of Congress's stupid ideas he will be real popular with them. At this time with our economy such as it is we need a man that will stand toe to toe with Congress and anyone else that is trying to control our Government and slug it out with them. Obama will never do that. Art
@bestboy19 (5478)
• United States
20 Jul 09
I am not impressed, but I'm afraid I wouldn't be impressed with McCain either.
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
19 Jul 09
I don't agree at all with the actual methods President Obama is using to supposedly "cure" our many sicknesses in America. For my personal beliefs in a free America, I don't think he's doing a great job. He's advancing his agenda and shaping America to fit his particular worldview as quickly as he possibly can. He's spending money like, well, there's nothing in history to compare it to. He's damning the future for the sake of the now, but the now is misleading, because he's not fixing but expanding government's role as a whole. I wish Obama would listen to people outside of his elitist circle and do something good for the country instead of something good for his particular vision of equal suffering at the common level. I think President Obama is a very smart individual, able to precisely articulate whatever it is he wants you to believe, and able to stir up emotion in people, good or bad, no matter what he says. If he were actually working to heal America's economy, strengthen our position in the world, strengthen our defenses, and expanding our liberties while retracting government interference, I would be ready to label him as the best ever! As it stands now, he's to complete opposite of what America is and what America stands for. Those hardcore liberals that can't feel good about themselves unless they're demonizing someone else are head over heels in love with the man. If you're full up with guilt and shame about America, be it for GITMO, suspect man-caused warming, slavery and the JC South, the poor, etc, then progressive liberalism is like therapy and Obama is Freud. But if you're a hard-working American who was brought up to be proud of your country, work hard and enjoy your fruits, and to live free without government rule, Obama's the Lex Luthor in Metropolis.
• United States
19 Jul 09
Nicely said, the other thing to remember is that much of the stuff he is doing will be impossible to undo. For example tell me the last time you every saw a governing body realize that the best way to do its job was to disband itself and go away? Never. It is alway a matter of how do we reforem this. So with Social Security they will reform and reform and reform and never accept that it is a failed concept, they will just keep administering it and wring their hands about how to fix it. When he created a government board to determine cost effectivness of medical treatments, that board will be a permanant fixture. There will be uproars about how people are being denied care and are dying because they are not cost effictive to fix, so the board will reform itself and problems will persist until the next reform, but they will never admit that that group shoudn't exist in the first place and we will be stuck with them.
• United States
19 Jul 09
He is doing everything he was raised on, thats why I didn't vote for him I'm just surprised at how fast he is being a community organizer for america, I knew what he was when he was running and no way was I voting for him. McCain was a lousy choice too, I only voted for him cause of Palin she ain't washingtonized. To answer your question I give him an F- cause I don't see how his spending will get us outta this mess.
• United States
19 Jul 09
Forget about Barack Odrama, I think we should have voted Rage Against The Machine's lead singer Zack de la Rocha. He knows politics better than most ppl these days.