WHY would you turn down a donation?!
By mommyboo
@mommyboo (13174)
United States
July 21, 2009 12:48am CST
This irks me. Apparently a well known charity has decided to 'turn down' a donation because they don't want to be affiliated with something that 'might be offensive' to some of their families. Well you know what is offensive to me? A CHARITY turning down a DONATION. If you are a charity, how in the world can you turn up your nose at anybody who might decide to give you funds to continue your good work?
I guess it's not really about the money at all is it? NO, it's about the IMAGE, isn't it? It's about affiliation and reputation, ISN'T IT? I don't like people. It's always never about what people say it is. People use offensive reasons for all sorts of things and try to cloak them as something good. I am tired of it.
If you are a charity or you work for or contribute for one, I sure hope you accept whatever donations from whomever because if you don't, I hope you disappear. Seriously, biting the hands that feed you? Unbelievable.
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@Pigglies (9329)
• United States
21 Jul 09
I'm not sure why this offends you so much. I think it really depends on what the charity is and what is expected of them for accepting a donation.
For example, I would be appalled if PETA accepted a donation from the meat industry. I don't even like PETA, but still that would just be really odd and I would be thinking something was going on. It would probably be offensive to anyone who actually donates to PETA too. There is a such thing as "blood money" or whatever you want to call it, and it's true for charities as well.
I volunteer with a couple charities and once used to be in charge of tax receipts and accepting donations. There actually are certain places that charities don't want to take donations from, because usually these groups will want publicity for donating and charities will not want to be associated with them. Think KKK here, or something equally offensive. Obviously it's not as bad as a politician taking money from such groups while campaigning, but still it is bad for your image in the long run to take such donations. If your reputation is ruined, your loyal contributors will not donate in the future and the large one time donation will no longer seem as valuable.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
23 Jul 09
Charities - the whole idea of them - are built upon donations from people and other corporations or entities. I don't understand why people are SO INTO THEIR REPUTATION that they would do this. What I'm trying to point out is that this is not about money at all, although that is what they ASK for. If they are going to act this way, then charities should not ask for money, they should just ask CERTAIN PEOPLE for help - you know, people who fit their idea of whatever their charity is. Of course I feel this is discriminatory and rude, so it will probably turn me off many charities for good.
I'm not talking something like the KKK or say a group that is raising funds for worldwide anarchy. I'm talking about ordinary charities whose reason for being is helping people. The one in question grants wishes to terminally ill children. I'm sorry but if a company, business, person, etc is offering a donation to a charity like that, I kind of think they ought to take it. I don't care where they got the donation, if my kid gets sick and might benefit from an organization such as that, I would like for them to be able to follow through on what they promise, and if that means they have to accept money OFFERED from a group of girls doing a carwash in bikinis, then so be it. I don't see ANYTHING OFFENSIVE about that! In fact, the only reason they even turned the girls down is because SOME IDIOT thinks that might be offensive. IDIOT! Thanks a lot for hurting a lot of children you big jerk.
My point is EVERYBODY needs to stop being so judgemental and stupid! Bad for image my foot. That problem only exists because so many people are plain judgemental and stupid. How is that to be remedied? Not by letting it CONTINUE. That is why I'm saying what I'm saying.
@Pigglies (9329)
• United States
24 Jul 09
I guess you've had some personal bad experience or something, so obviously I'm not going to change your mind because bad experiences are interfering with your logic here. But suffice it to say that the whole idea of charities is not to get money, it is to help a cause. If by accepting a donation you hurt that cause, then you did more harm than good.
"I'm not talking something like the KKK or say a group that is raising funds for worldwide anarchy."
Obviously you completely missed the point here. What if the KKK was donating to the group for terminally ill children? Would you accept that?
"My point is EVERYBODY needs to stop being so judgemental and stupid!"
How about taking your own advice?
"These are scenarios that would likely NEVER happen."
Not true at all. The Petco vs. rescues scenario is a true story. The others may have been hypothetical, but they still occur. Gay organizations try to donate to Republican candidates and they are often turned down. Stuff like this happens all the time. In some cases it shouldn't (why shouldn't the Republicans take donations from gay organizations?), but in other cases it is hypocritical for the group to take the money.
I guess you just wanted a bunch of people to sit here and agree with your very biased perspective. That doesn't always happen in life. Most times when you start a discussion you will get differing viewpoints. Why even ask if you aren't open to them?
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
30 Jul 09
Pigglies - MY view here is not BIASED. When you start not accepting things for various reasons (the political one burns me - republicans not accepting donations from a gay group? So that tells me all republicans are against gays? How tolerant is THAT?) and the reasons are discriminatory and intolerant, then I am not the biased one.
I don't see how you can sit there and act like intolerance and discrimination is all right, and that there's something wrong with a person who believes that the greater good is being served with a donation regardless of where it came from. If someone donates something to ill children, it is going to help the children. The CHILDREN don't care where the money came from, do they? No, it's just the adults who have the gall to question the intentions of whoever gave the money.
Do you realize where children learn to be judgemental and intolerant? Right... from ADULTS. They would never learn this behavior if it wasn't for the way a lot of us act.

@34momma (13882)
• United States
21 Jul 09
i am with you!! who gives a sh*t! when you need money to feed children, or find a cure to something what does it matter where the money came from! I don't really care. I think the only thing that is really important is the cause that needs the money!!
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
23 Jul 09
I agree with you. Besides, people in this thread are acting like EVERYBODY would KNOW where they got the funds. No, nobody would have to know where the funds came from, and if it came down to a backlash, the organization could deny it. Money and image, I swear you'd think we'd have all grown out of this pissing contest by now. I guess everybody is still an overgrown jealous petty child, or most everybody.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
30 Jul 09
Wonttakelong - I think it would be much better if people did not package donations along with where it came from. It seems like a lot of this is coming out of the fact that people say 'would you want to be associated with this' etc. If all the donations were made anonymously, then there wouldn't be any risk of 'association with something unsavory' which goes back to the point of why I wrote this - people are TOO concerned with what things look like. I used to think that the main problem in society was that we didn't know enough about things, now I think it's that we know too much, that we are too damn nosy lol. The more we know, the more we discriminate, apparently.
@wonttakelong (3555)
• United States
29 Jul 09
what if the money that was feeding those kids or finding that cure had come from the mafia?
what if it were the hit money collected by a mafia assasin for killing someones wife?
would you still want that type of association with the money?
yeah it would still feed the kids or still find the cure BUT wouldnt it seem that taking the money is a form of encouraging that criminal activity?

@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
21 Jul 09
So if a church has a charity to help the poor people in South America then they should accept a donation from the Las Vegas Gambling commmittee even if that church does not believe that gambling is the right thing to do, and if a church charity wants money to send food to the Sudan, they should accept a donation from the Gay and Lesbian Committee even if they believe the Bible that homosexuality is wrong.
It is the same if a group called the American Negro Poor People's Fund accepted money from a group called the White Supremist Society.
The trouble is if an organization accept money for a charity from an organization that does not agree with their values, then the organization that they received money from, believes that the first organization has changed their mind and their values.
Now that does not mean that if Joe Blow who belongs to the White Supremist Society is thinking that somehow the idea of burning crosses on lawns is not a good idea and decides that because that nice black family down the block needs some help and he puts some money in an envelope and slips that in the unknown donor box, but that is his personal choice.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
23 Jul 09
Well, a charity does not have to showcase their donators and volunteers and show everybody on the planet who donated and helped their cause. I mean they can if they want to but they don't HAVE to. Again, this is going back to how other people see things. Why does everybody care so much about what other people think? That is the root of the problem.
Just like others, you are purposely putting together charities and donators who wouldn't even accept/donate to each other anyway. Neither likes the other's stance on primary important things, so it would never happen in the first place.
However, if the firemen are having a fundraiser and they have several groups offer donations - say one is a group of boy scouts - and they accept it, and another is an ice cream night where the local ice cream franchise donates all the sales to them for one evening - and they accept it, and another one is a bunch of college girls who did a car wash - why shouldn't they accept that too? Money is money, it's not as if any of those are at odds with serving and protecting, which firemen do, so what's the big deal?
If I felt like donating money somewhere or to somebody, I really don't think I'd do anything except donate the money. If I raised it through something else or it was a group effort including other people to raise the money, that doesn't matter either. I would likely just approach the charity and offer the donation and that would be that. I wouldn't need to discuss my views on anything or philosophy about whatever. Bottom line, I raised money and wanted it to go to x charity. AND if they asked me I'd just say that I wanted them to have this money and that was all I was going to say about it. Nothing else is necessary.
@THEcreationist (837)
• India
21 Jul 09
Hi, friend. You are right.Turning down a donation just due to the families of the charity owners are offended with the donors, is itself a thing of offense. You are running charity organisation to help people and don`t accept to help coz you don`t like the donor, makes no sense. I will never refuse in such a case.
But, if the donor is somebody earning from illegal/immoral means, i will refuse the donation straightaway. Accepting such a donation will provoke more illegal activities. I hope you will also do the same.
Happy Mylotting!!
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
23 Jul 09
You and others may know exactly the situation this is referring to now. It was on the news and it was regarding the Make A Wish foundation, which grants wishes to terminally ill children. Now. If MY child were terminally ill and I was able to be touched by this organization in some way, of course I would want them to continue to have the funds to grant childrens' wishes! Who wouldn't?
The donation in question was money given by a bunch of girls who did a car wash in bikinis. I do not see anything even slightly offensive about bikinis, girls, a car wash, or a combination of all three. If someone does see a problem, I think they have something wrong with them and I would prefer people like that did not share their offense with others over something that there's not even anything wrong with.
Anyway, there is nothing illegal nor immoral about this and I do hope they give the donation anonymously and the money finds its way where they wanted it to go. Otherwise I think the real losers in all of this debacle are the children that money wouldn't be helping!!
I'm sorry but I still cannot believe such a stink was raised over something as silly and innocent as this. It reminds me of some stupid toy recall years ago because some fundamentalist religious person decided that the toy said a cuss word. IT DIDN'T but to HER it sounded like it did so she had a fit and got all the toys pulled from the shelves. If I had known about it before it happened, I would have had half a mind to buy a dozen of them and carry them around with me and pull the strings and laugh at people who acted pissy over it. Remember, we all choose how to respond to things and how WE act. Instead of having a fit over something, people like this could just LET IT GO instead of claiming they have to save the world. lol!
@THEcreationist (837)
• India
23 Jul 09
Well, some conservatives may feel that washing cars in bikinis may be immoral. I also think that it may seem vulgar sometimes, but only to those who have got some vulgarity in their thoughts also coz, to me, nothing seems to be too explicit in their work. After all, this is a part of their means of living and does not cross any moral or social bounds, if they do only what they are supposed to do. Moreover, the girls are donating for a human cause and that should not affected by their method of earning until it is really out of bounds.
So, in effect, i also fully agree with your viewpoint in the present situation.
Happy Mylotting!!







