What do you think? SONA

@Zaphan (710)
Philippines
July 27, 2009 6:16am CST
President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo's SONA (State of The Nation Address) what do you think about the things she said on the opposition members who always contradict her? and the things she did? Did he reach her goals and promises??? I don't exactly remember the words but it's like this ( if you got something to do just do it even if you are not the president ) did that word hit you?? because we can change this country If we like to! am I right guys? we don't have to make a rally and waste time staying and we get nothing instead do the things that we think will help without wasting time right? what about you what can you contribute for our country?
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@eichs1 (1934)
• Philippines
27 Jul 09
"we don't have to make a rally and waste time" It's a waste of time if the rally is not addressing any issue at all. Without rally, Marcos would have not been ousted. Without rally, Gloria Macapagal Arroyo might not be in Malacanang palace nor had delivered the SONA today. "because we can change this country If we like to" Not all you like or want, you get. I always wanted the country to be lead by upright leaders. I did my duty very well as a citizen paying my taxes, doing some community services and always trying to follow the laws. But, was I able to change the country? No, I was not. That is because there are lots of things that should be done collectively. You can not just set in your office and in your home and expect your world to be a better place to live in. You have to act with others, work with them to be able to do something bigger. As for the President Arroyo's SONA, she based it on facts her office gathered. In reality, it is the point of view of the present administration to what it has accomplished. We patiently listened to it. If one shares the same opinion, then we should respect it. If there are opposing views and they present good arguments, it is but fair to listen and respect such views too. At the end of the day, facts will remain as facts no matter whether we believe it or not.
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@russso (1693)
• Philippines
27 Jul 09
So agree with you, Marcos is a perfect example. As I said in my other comment to this thread, people who join rallies are fighting for something and we should respect that. I don't see rallies as a waste of time. In fact, I admire people who have the guts & determination to speak up. I look up to these people who, despite weather conditions and police forces, devote their time to go out on the streets to create awareness, not only to the government, but to fellow Filipinos too. I commend these people for not being afraid to speak and to "fight" on behalf of their countrymen who cannot fight for themselves. In fact, we should still be thankful that we live in a country where we're allowed to speak our minds. We're still blessed to still have that.
@24Champ (465)
27 Jul 09
I think it was well "scripted" (thanks to her writers or researchers) and "delivered" (although I must admit, some of her words were inaudible, or probably, it's in her manner of speaking). However, it's quite irritating to see how GMA's political allies were grinning from ear to ear and applauding at practically every pronouncement made by her. It's like looking at happy leeches! Nonetheless, I thank GMA and those legislators for passing the laws on price reduction of medicines and salary increase of government workers. I also commend her administration for the country's economic resilience in the face of a global recession. This, however, is debatable because of a strong argument that our economy has been bailed out by the continuous remittances of OFWs and not really by a sound economic policy of GMA's administration. Likewise, there are many other economic and social issues that still need to be addressed (mostly prevalent in local communities). However, as I said here time and again, Filipinos should not rely entirely on the President or the government for that matter. About the "opposition", they are called as such precisely to "contradict" her, right? Anyway, it is but natural in any democratic country for people to freely express their views no matter how radical they might be. But come to think of it, people like Satur Ocampo, et al., they have been consistently like that since the Marcos era, right? Sometimes, it makes me wonder, will they ever support any incumbent administration? Or are they just preserving the tradition of street parliamentarism, like a dogmatic paradigm, even when there is really no "serious" issue at all?
@24Champ (465)
28 Jul 09
@eichs When I said, "not rely entirely on the President or the government", I was calling on fellow Filipinos to be more "self-reliant" and not dwell on a "dole-out mentality syndrome". Let's face it; many Filipinos still thrive on paternalism as a way of life. The urban poor are a fine example. It is no secret that many of them came from the rural provinces "to take their chances" in Metro Manila, thinking it offers "more opportunities" for a "better life". However, when they failed in their quest, they often blame the government for not looking after their welfare and, thus, ended up joining street protests, etc. Instead of returning to the provinces and go back on tilling the very soil that supported them when they were growing up, they ended up as street beggars, squatters, scavengers, and worse, engaged in unlawful activities in the cities. Others simpy rely on charity for their daily subsistence, which is, again, an expression of their paternalistic tendencies. Perhaps, there are valid reasons for some who left the rural areas and went to the urban cities. However, for many others, this is just a form of "escape" from the demands of a rural livelihood. In short, they just grew tired of cultivating the soil. I have been all over the country, from the progressive cities and municipalities to the most rustic, remote, and impoverished areas. I can say, that indeed, there are inequalities in society. There are structural defects in the system of government (e.g., the local government code). Politics in our country is really a "dirty" domain and is at the core of corruption. However, I also witnessed how many Filipinos especially in the rural areas were able to surmount the ordeals of poverty by being more diligent in their livelihood. Our impression that rural farmers are "poor" or "marginalized" is sometimes blurred by our own standards. If we were to calculate the assets and earnings of most farmers who decided to stick with their traditional livelihood, we would realize that they are on a par with (if not better than) those who are earning daily wages as professionals or salaried personnel. It pays to be vigilant by voicing out opinions about defective governance, corruption, and the like. There is no argument about that. Besides, it is our constitutional right as a democracy. However, to effect societal changes, we should start with ourselves.
@eichs1 (1934)
• Philippines
28 Jul 09
@24Champ, I do agree on most of your points. But I think this "Filipinos should not rely entirely on the President or the government for that matter" should be clarified somehow. I don't think asking the government to do something to solve our present situation means "relying" on the president. --- When Filipinos complain of hunger, they are just reminding the President that there could have been more food if Jocjoc Bolante distributed the fertilizers to farmers and not to congressmen. There could have been more rice if NFA did not import over-priced stocks. --- When they grumble of high electricity rate, they are not asking for P500.00 dole outs and make them beggars. The people are actually asking GMA's government to exercise its powers accordingly to protect the common good and not only when it thinks it's time to contain a political opponent. --- When the Filipinos are voicing out life's hardship, they are actually asking the officials if the collected taxes are properly used to deliver basic services and fund worthwhile causes that would help alleviate their living condition. They are just asking those running the government to stop diverting the money to anyone's pocket or to fund anybody's political staying power. In fact, @24Champ, I do believe many Filipinos have long realized that they can not rely on this unreliable present government. Don't get them wrong. They are just voicing their opinions and they are only reminding those in the position now to promote common good because that's the very reason a government was made to exist.
@Zaphan (710)
• Philippines
27 Jul 09
hehehe! yeah it's scripted speech! but thanks anyway that we are still standing on a global crisis. Thank for the response.
@rsa101 (37968)
• Philippines
28 Jul 09
Well I think GMA SONA is what we expect it to be. I do not expect for her to say she is sorry for the wrongdoings she has done in the past years. I think she would be crazy for dong so. I would say she has also made her accomplishments so to say as what she is supposed to deliver but, to what extent I really could not say she has done her job well. I may see some of her projects rise up but then behind those there were some that sounds fishy along the way. The ZTE deal, the wealth hidden somewhere else they were not closed in as far as I know it remains a question they prefer to avoid and hopefully they could bury when 2010 comes. When it comes to rallies, I never attend to one except the People Power that ousted Erap. After that, I became disinterested because I learned that these has evolved already from being abused by politicians themselves. I truly think that we really need a transition that is peaceful through election and not from another people power.
@Zaphan (710)
• Philippines
28 Jul 09
hehehe! sorry guys if got carried away lolz! this is getting worst everyday, the news the scandal among the politician. sometime I think what happen if our country is a communist then all of the poor will be held up, no one is above the other. all fair. what do you think guys?
• Philippines
28 Jul 09
It should be her last SONA. . . . . I hope to hear other Presidents to deliver the SONA. . . Have a wonderful day.
@Zaphan (710)
• Philippines
29 Jul 09
Thanks for the response, I hope that the next president will not be forced to step down the thrown again..
@jules67 (2788)
• Philippines
27 Jul 09
Listening to her awhile back, it seems far fetched that what she claims really happened. I am not being cynical of the administration. But if you would look closely what is happening around it is totally wrong. One thing that was made clear is that she was ready to fight back all those who criticize her. One point made was directly aimed at Senator Mar Roxas another one was for Joseph Estrada.
@Zaphan (710)
• Philippines
27 Jul 09
That's as always! if they lose they fight back, Joseph Estrada? i don't think he can lead the nation! did you do something good when he seated as a president? one think that I want to ask the candidates for the presidency. Why wait to be the president to do the things right for our country?
• Philippines
28 Jul 09
Many critics of the president said that there is a possibility that she may extend her term as a president. But I think its the last SONA of gloria macapagal arroyo. She will never declare a martial law. Just to stay in the MalacaƱang
@Zaphan (710)
• Philippines
28 Jul 09
they are just making trouble! they make gossips to destroy her credibility and I think they are envy on her position as a president! they suck!
@agv0419 (3022)
• Philippines
28 Jul 09
I don't believe anymore to Arroyo all she said is not true. Many critics said that she's going to run again in 2010 Election. SONA for me is useless the situation of our life here is still the same I don't see any improvement.
@russso (1693)
• Philippines
27 Jul 09
We have to give it to the people who choose to go out on the streets for a rally. I'm sure they're fighting for something that really matters to them. We have to respect that. I did like and I do admire PGMA's "don't mess with me attitude" BUT it would have been more regale had she not bashed people who don't have the same principles as hers. We do have to give it to her and some of the achievements that her administration has had BUT I would absolutely want to be told about the countries problems too. Despite all the good things that PGMA has said about what her administration has done, I can't help but be saddened because I know that a lot of Filipinos are still going through tough times. I mean, come on ? those who were present in the same room as PGMA does not even make up 1% of our population. Right? It makes me feel that much of what has been said at the SONA are half-truths, painting a distorted image of the country's present condition. The quality of living of most people in our country speak of the real deal in every aspect there is: education, health, cultural, social, peace & order, economy, agriculture, employment, etc. After everything that has been said and done, it is still good to be informed and be in-the-know, whatever present condition(s) our country's in.
• Philippines
27 Jul 09
oh, just for her something to brag about and then hitting her critics with another set of blabbering bob statements. i agree we can really make the difference but rally is not one of them anymore,it became a hobby now for some who wants violence.
@Zaphan (710)
• Philippines
27 Jul 09
yeah we can really make a difference.. one of our problem is our election cheating. I bet after this coming election in 2010 there will be issues of cheating. where the fact is they are cheating too!:) and when we elect president after 2 to 3 years there will be people power 4 and then comes people power 6 and so on! there will be co attempts. believe me I've had enough hearing news about it! what about you?? what do you think after the election?
• Philippines
27 Jul 09
It was indeed her last speech but that didn't budge the opposition. they believe arroyo was being personal instead of professional..