What I Do Not Understand About Democrats?

@gewcew23 (8007)
United States
August 1, 2009 10:16am CST
Why am I not Democrat, because I cannot understand supporting contradiction. Democrats believe they are advancing people's power yet they do not believe people can do anything right without government guidance. Even though that government bureaucracy, which are people can do anything successfully. Democrats do not like it when the government takes control of their lives yet they vote for programs that increase people's dependency on the government. While they are increasing governments power they believe they're advancing people's power. Democrat are fast to criticizes America is too greedy, yet half the population is subsidized through government. Even though they are subsidized they are victims. Yet being victims their representatives control government. Even though they control government the poor gets poorer.
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
1 Aug 09
I understand perfectly. they have fallen for the same BS line republicans have. That if we continualy vote for one party over the other that somehow things will change. How is voting for the same two groups of people over and over again "change?. People buy in to the promises of largess from the public treasury by both parties.
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@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
1 Aug 09
What really is different under Obama than under Bush? The only exception is we are funding international abortions.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
2 Aug 09
You are so wrong. He's about "change". He got rid of that Patriot A... oh nevermind. He ended that warrantless wiret... no, we've still got that. Oh, but the renditio... Crap, missed that too. Well at least he stopped bailing out... Sheesh what was it he was supposed to change again?
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
1 Aug 09
"What really is different under Obama than under Bush" Exactly my point. Nothing.
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@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
1 Aug 09
Democrats are about advancing socialism and expanding the role of government. They are about making people dependent on the government in order to gain control of the people. They care nothing for people, just the power over people that they can gain. How hard is that to understand?
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@momiecat (997)
• United States
1 Aug 09
But Democrats are the people! I agree with you though, it sickens my stomach to see the US moving towards socialism. I think it is not so much gaining control of the people though as gaining control of their pocketbooks and hard-earned money. It is robbing the rich and middle class to pay for the poor and the poor choices they make for their lives. Perhaps not all the poor have contributed to their status in life but a good majority have.
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• United States
1 Aug 09
You have every right to keep the money that you earn, you worked hard for it, but our fellow americans deserve the right to not live in a third world country in our own back yards.
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• United States
2 Aug 09
phildoozer... Our fellow Americans have the right to get off their lazy assses and pull themselves outr of that third world poverty. It is NOT the government's job to hold their hand. Of course with 0bozo and company in charge now, that third world status is fast approaching for us all. You have a lot to learn... and I suggest that you start immediately. Welcome to the USSA...
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@nangel78 (1454)
• United States
1 Aug 09
I am at the point to where I do not consider myself Democrat or Republican. Both parties cause a lot of issues to come about and there are people in them so greed tends to take over whom ever is in charge. It is difficult for me to see them as putting the people first when you have Congress folks who have been in their positions for 20 plus years. I think they care more about big business than about the people who vote for them and put them in power.
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• United States
1 Aug 09
Gew, both parties support contradictions, yet I see you forgot the last eight years. I find it so funny how republicans, like youself, have erased from your memory the entire last 8 years, as if they never existed. You have forgot all about the Patriot act that took away rights from Americans, created the largest federal government department, and took away state rights, and put them in the hands of the federal government. Everthing that republicans say they are against, yet they showed their supported for it by reelected George W. Bush. I hate to tell you this Gew, but you didn't do anything about this in the last eight years; Why are you doing it now? Is it because it is a Democrat doing it, and not a Republican?
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
1 Aug 09
Seriously man, the "Bush did it too" crap is really getting old. Why are you assuming that gewcew, and everyone else here who criticizes Obama supported the Patriot Act and all that garbage Bush did? Mylot didn't even EXIST then so you have no idea what forums Gewcew or anyone else was posting on or what they were saying back then.
• United States
1 Aug 09
Holy crap, I may cry. *standing ovation*
• United States
1 Aug 09
I agree with this completely. In fact, Obama has done LESS to consolidate power in the hands of the executive branch, and yet he's being criticised even more harshly than Bush was. I wonder why that would be?
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@phildozer (284)
• United States
1 Aug 09
I believe that the government has absolutely NO right to interfere with our private affairs, so long as they dont not violate others in their right to freedom. I believe that the government exists solely for the purpose of providing services that we as americans cannot provide for ourselves. I believe that corporations are inherently evil, and that the only tool that we the people have to combat them is our government, who is there to do nothing but obey our command for protection and service. as it happens, most of my beliefs fall in line with the democratic party, and thus I call myself a democrat. The only thing you seem to not understand about democrats is that, we dont all believe the same things.
@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
1 Aug 09
Did you know that you just stated a contradiction? Do you know what it is? I will tell you. You say, I believe that the government has absolutely NO right to interfere with our private affairs, so long as they do not violate others in their right to freedom. I am assuming that you actually believe that. Okay, then you say I believe that corporations are inherently evil, and that the only tool that we the people have to combat them is our government, who is there to do nothing but obey our command for protection and service. Corporation are private enterprises, and why should government interfere with our private affairs. Do see what I am getting at?
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
1 Aug 09
" I believe that the government exists solely for the purpose of providing services that we as americans cannot provide for ourselves" AH-HA!!!! Ok, now I see why you have the naive views you seem to. That is not the purpose of the U.S. government. The U.S. government exists only as an agent of the states and people, nothing more. It is not there to provide anything in the material realm for us. It has a minimal list of basic functions and duties, restrained by a very strict set of limitations. We have slowly been conditioned to believe they are suposed to be the answer and provider, a very dangerous ideology. "A government big enough to give you every thing you want, is also big enough to take everything you have." ~ Thomas Jefferson Nothing the government "provides" comes with out a return payment, usualy in the form of liberty. "thos who would trade their essential liberty for a little security, deserve neither liberty or security" ~Ben franklin
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@tessrow (92)
• United States
1 Aug 09
The Democratic and the Republican parties are not monolithic organisations with one goal and one thought process. They are made up of people, just as Independents, Green Party members, and others are individuals working in a group. As such, they're going to have all sorts of different ideas on how best to achieve good things for people. I think both parties have good intentions, and neither party has a chokehold on the one right way to deal with things. But the kind of contradictions you are describing exist within the Republican party as well: they love babies so much that they insist that all of them be born, no matter how difficult that is for the mother, but once that child is born, they want no responsibility for caring for it, no matter how poor the mother is. Once the child is born, the resentment begins. The Republicans believe that most poverty and want can be solved through private charity, yet they resent giving any of their money as taxes to administer that same charity in an equitable manner. The Republicans argue against public control of everything EXCEPT one's private relationships and one's reproductive rights. They argue against public decisions about health unless they involve a woman's uterus. So you see, those contradictions are not just properties of the Democratic party, or ANY party. It's the case in any group that people will have contradictory beliefs, and political parties seem to attract more of that than most groups. Perhaps it's best said this way. Republicans are idealists, who believe if left alone, people will be charitable, kind, caring, and watching out for each other, and that the government only interferes. Corporations will never exploit their workers, or betray the public trust for the gain of their shareholders. Republicans rely on the notion that we can trust private organisations to look out for the public interest. Democrats are cynics, who think that most people only look out for themselves, and so they look to government to ensure the charity and care for others that they do not believe corporations and individuals can be trusted to provide. History shows that the Democratic view of people is more accurate than the Republican one. It may be cynical, but sadly, it's probably also right.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
1 Aug 09
Mommicat specified illegals with 10 babies. That's different. Republicans do support tighter border regulations than democrats and are less sympathetic to illegal aliens. Unfortunately democrats controlling places like California make them safe zones where illegal aliens can murder and rape people without being deported.
• United States
1 Aug 09
Taskr36: You're wrong about the people resenting caring for the children once they are born. You need only look above to Momiecat's comments to see exactly what I'm talking about. And I used to volunteer for a Catholic organisation (I'm not Catholic, but I agreed with their intentions) in my home town that helped young women still in high school find jobs and day care during their unplanned pregnancies, so I know that they do good work. I also know there's never enough money for that, and eventually they had to give up most of their work due to lack of contributions and volunteers. Charity only goes so far. And a lot of people feel as Momiecat does that some people don't deserve any at all. Who's going to look out for those babies, once they're safely born and thus of no further concern?
• United States
1 Aug 09
If an illegal immigrant has their babies here, I believe legally those babies are American citizens. Does the worth of a child depend on its place of birth, or the legality of its parents stay here? Do compassion and charity only apply to some children, and not all? She also specified children the mother could not afford; aren't those the children who need help the most? Why are the children to blame for the circumstances into which they were born?
@busybren (258)
• United States
1 Aug 09
hmmmm.....AS PEOPLE i believe we are being forced to partake in many things or beliefs controlled by the government, no matter what we represent. It's not a matter of being hypocritical of beliefs, but doing what we have to do IN ORDER TO SURVIVE now... Remember it's not like we are all happy go lucky suit and dress wearers' like back in the old days. NOW WE QUESTION THINGS, but having to get by in what is forced on us, as Citizens of this country.
@momiecat (997)
• United States
22 Mar 10
We are no longer in a democracy. We are experiencing socialism at its best. The people who do not want money taken away from them to support others are not getting any say. This is the government telling you to hand over more of your hard-earned money and you will get less of a return for it because you have to support the poor and illegals.
@advokatku (4033)
• Indonesia
2 Aug 09
That Is true, not all people can understand about democrats. Although aim not America State citizen, but aim trust concept democrats is bring all people to understand democracy