Obama's Healthcare Fallacy

@ParaTed2k (22983)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
August 6, 2009 10:05am CST
“At some point, sometime in September, we are just going to have to make an assessment” about continuing to seek a bipartisan agreement with Republican senators, Obama said in an interview with MSNBC. “I would prefer Republicans working with us on that because I think it’s in the interest of everybody.” Boys and girls, what is the fallacy in this statement? The republicans don't have the numbers to even be a speed pump to passage of the healthcare "reform". Whether they voted last week or in September.. or next year sometime, only Democrats can stop this bill from passage. Apparently Obama doesn't think we're smart enough to figure this out. http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20090805/pl_bloomberg/a0hsrpkr45go_1
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@Latrivia (2889)
• United States
6 Aug 09
Obama, and a large portion of the democrats in congress don't care what Republicans think. They've demonstrated this already with the passage of the stimulus. They want what they want, and if Republicans disagree, they'll act like they want bipartisanship, but they won't do anything you can call "bipartisan". You can't blame the minority in congress for partisanship when you ignore their protests because you can beat them in a vote by numbers alone.
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@ParaTed2k (22983)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
6 Aug 09
Correction, they don't care what anyone thinks. They are nothing but petty tyrants in their ivory tower looking over the slaves at the market.
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@Latrivia (2889)
• United States
6 Aug 09
Heh - I especially like how they're asking people to start reporting dissenting emails when it comes to the universal health care situation. They're doing their best to make dissenters sound like nut jobs. Makes me wonder how much longer until we start seeing a White House sponsored "Two Minutes Hate" program on our televisions. That sounds terribly "conspiracy theorist" of me, but I really just can't stand the feeling of helplessness at the situation. It's makes me get all twitchy and antsy to know that they're ignoring their other constituents in order to pacify the "gimme-gimme" citizens.
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@ParaTed2k (22983)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
6 Aug 09
I'm looking for the exact section in the US Code, but I'm almost sure that Obama is breaking the law with that.
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@spalladino (17923)
• United States
6 Aug 09
I agree that the Republicans don't have the numbers but I believe the intent is to get as many to agree to this thing as possible and to reduce the discourse. BTW, I responded to your last question to me and gave you more information.
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@ParaTed2k (22983)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
6 Aug 09
Yup, it's interesting to see the difference between the Obama when everyone is agreeing with him and the one when anyone is disagreeing.
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@ElicBxn (61039)
• United States
7 Aug 09
he just wants to share the blame when it fails catastrophically
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@mehale (2200)
• United States
8 Aug 09
It really does make one wonder what is going through his head! He has also made the statement that he is not entirely sure what is in the bill that is up for a vote. It would seem that if he is going to push so hard for it, he could at least take the time to find out exactly what is in it!
@ParaTed2k (22983)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
8 Aug 09
He doesn't care what is in it. All that matters to him is getting the power that comes with its passing.
@phildozer (284)
• United States
6 Aug 09
Dont worry, I'm confident that the democrats, even when controlling the house, senate, and white house, will still find some way to screw up reform. I dont think that voting against reform is going to do them any favors though, they will never be able to counter with a solution that solves people's concerns, and if this legislation passes, the voters are going to be very aware of that
@ParaTed2k (22983)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
6 Aug 09
The alternatives never even made it to committe, much less the floor. The Central Committee made no room for any voice but their own and those who agree with them.