info about health care bill
By psychotaz206
@psychotaz206 (2086)
United States
August 14, 2009 4:37pm CST
i just talked to someone very close to the health care bill the one that everyone has seen and is talking about is not the only one out there infact they add things and take things out of the bill all the time and after they get every thing figured out after the hall meatings they are hoping to have the bill almost if not all done right now the reason for the town hall meatings are to get the public input and then they are supose to have a meating about it and then let us know what is going on with it.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
14 Aug 09
One of the things they are considering taking out is the end-of-life counseling which is in direct response to the public's disgust with it being in the bill in the first place. But do we have to raise a stink about every section of the bill until they finally produce something we actually want, or is this just to appease some of the most vocal opposition? Chances are that even if the majority of Americans oppose the bill, they will pass it anyway and that's NOT representation.
As far as really listening to public input, did you see the video of Sheila Jackson Lee at her town hall meeting. While a young mother and cancer survivor was asking a question, Congresswoman Lee was on her cell phone taking a call and talking. So much for listening.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
15 Aug 09
That's the most insulting opinion of the public I have ever heard but I am sure it is one that is shared by all these self-important members of Congress.
When they vote for something their constituents didn't want we'll see how fast they find out what representation is, because they won't be in office to make decisions for their poor, undereducated, unintelligent, constituents that they feel are unable to properly self-determine without the nannies to take good care of them.
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@N4life (851)
• United States
15 Aug 09
Technically it is representation. We elect officials who are supposed to act in our best interest, and make decisions that they think are best no matter what polls say. As sad as it may seem the fact is the intricacies and complexties of any govt are too important and difficult for most citizens to have the time and or the faculities to understand the issues. If it was not meant to be this way our forefathers would have mandated more public referendums to pass laws. Not saying it is the best or that it always works out for the best, but it is what it is.
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@missybal (4490)
• United States
14 Aug 09
That just scares me more... I wonder if we will see the complete one that they want to vote on in advance enough to respond. The Military Vet in my apartment building started a conversation with me today about how scared he is about this thing. He goes to the VA Hospital for his healthcare and he says it's such a long wait for everything now he hates to see what it will be like when the government is tinkering with our healthcare for everyone. I think it's obvious what the people think about his healthcare bill thing. 75% were against it after reading that last one... I think more people are aware now they need to pay attention and speak out before it's too late. Good to see that all these people who never paid attention to what bills passed who just voted for their representatives and didn't pay attention to how they voted after that are finally paying attention. Me included in that statement.
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@psychotaz206 (2086)
• United States
14 Aug 09
from what i was told he has nothing to worry about if you have health care you can keep what you got if you want to or you can change it the choice is your, the people that pay for there health care they want to lower the premiem but keep the same coverage which i guess is good at least for my husband he pays almost 300.00 a month and thats only to cover his drs visits that does not include me or our children also he want the choice to be ours and the drs on what we need not the insurence companies that like to keep telling people no, like for a example my old health care would not pay for my prenatel vitiman so i had to take over the counter flinstons kids, the only people that know what kind of care we need is us and our drs not the health care thats what he is trying to make happen but people are trying to stop that
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
14 Aug 09
But the reality is, if we hadn't raised a stink, the bill would already be passed into law.
The fact they are even including us in the process proves we still have a voice, when we decide to use it.
As it is, for many Congressmembers "public input" is nothing more than giving canned demonstrations to hand picked people... or even requiring (of all things for a Democrat to require) Picture ID!
I do give credit to the ones not running sham town hall meetings though, many of them have truly listened.
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@psychotaz206 (2086)
• United States
14 Aug 09
but at least they are listing , they could of just went and passed it with out us even knowing about it like things where done before sure not every one is going to agree on this or anything but at least we are letting our voices be heard and they are willing to listen or not push it through without people knowing about it.
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@Travelingman (13)
• United States
14 Aug 09
I agree with you. If no one speaks up then the Congress is just going to push through a bill with whatever they want. People need to have a place to voice their opinions and speak out on the issues. This way the Congress will get an idea of what people like or dislike about a particular piece of legislation. You're never going to get all the people to agree on one thing or another. That's why there are compromises on many bills and other pieces of legislation. Hopefully, they can get the health care bill resolved and the country can move forward.
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@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
15 Aug 09
Ted, I really don't understand why republicans are so upset about these "canned demonstrations to hand picked people", your party is the ones that created these. Don't you remember the 2004 eleciton, where Karl Rove wanted only republicans at political rallies, so you could only get tickets from your county republican party? I never heard on republican upset about this in 2004, so what is the problem now? Didn't even American vote in the election, and didn't we send him to Washington to reprsent all of us? You know what they say about history Ted.
Have you noticed that democrats haven't been going to these republican townhall meetings yelling at them for not supporting this bill? As a matter of fact you don't hear of any problems at the republican meetings. But, this would never make anyone wonder if those protesters are planted or anything.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
15 Aug 09
I think that is really good. They need to add and take away, after they get a feel of what the people want. I pay an extreme amount for health insurance and I have a high deductible and it stinks that a better plan would cost so much that I would have to figure out what bills wouldn't be paid.
@bestboy19 (5478)
• United States
14 Aug 09
I think the people have been letting Congress know how they feel about the health care bill they have now.
