Is this a rip off?

@thea09 (18305)
Greece
August 25, 2009 2:44pm CST
I live in a tourist area which has basically just over six months of tourist activity. We have two local supermarkets, both well stocked, but more expensive than the shops in the town an hours drive away. A few years back the prices would go up at the start of the tourist season then back down at the end. But now they only go up, and up, and never down. The tourists are a captive audience as most don't think of shopping anywhere else. The prices locally now are so ridiculous that all the locals go into town to shop as we all know we're being ripped off. So even if they reduce their prices this winter I think they no longer deserve our custom. At the end of the season there won't be many tourists to rip off. What would you think as a tourist or if this was happening in your area?
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@wolfie34 (26770)
• United Kingdom
25 Aug 09
I know shops do have to take into account that six months of the year they have little or no business due to the lack of tourists and you expect them to put their prices up but not to the point of extortionate, if tourists feel that they are being ripped off they are hardly like to recommended the place are they? In actual fact it could end up putting people off and what will that do to the businesses? Do they think that tourists are easy game? Are prime targets to get ripped off, that's the same as getting mugged and of course it will have a domino affect on the people that live there too! Hardly tourist friendly place if the tourist area does that. There's plenty of other places to go to where tourists are more warmly welcomed and not cheated.
@wolfie34 (26770)
• United Kingdom
25 Aug 09
That is terrible they are in actual fact ripping off their own people.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
25 Aug 09
You get it wolfie, we are indeed being ripped off, completely. Problem is the prices in town are starting to go up too.
@bigplay (212)
• United States
26 Aug 09
Well some businesses thrive in cities, countries or states where tourism is the king of all businesses, i live in such a state. I don't think its a rip off, when summer comes, that's usually the time people are on vacaations and are traveling, so busimesses will do things that make them money.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
26 Aug 09
Hi bigplay, so basically you're saying that as a fellow resident of a tourist area you expect to be ripped off so that the businesses can make more money from the people who are travelling there. I get your point completely if it's businesses aimed directly at tourists, such as a lot of the restaurants that only open in the tourist season but I can't agree when it comes to basic necessary commodities such as foodstuffs.
• India
26 Aug 09
Great To Shop At Supermarkets Having Competitive P - Supermarkets -- Availability
Yes .. Thea I Can Understand the Mentality Of this Big Guy(Supermarket) . Shopping At Supermarkets Are A Craze for Everyone Including Tourists .. When You Need To Buy A Variety Of Products A Supermarket Becomes A Necessity As Everything You Want is Available At this Place .. Some Supermarkets Do Have the Habit of Fluctuating Prices of Goods According to the Business .. But this Guy At your Place Is Taking Everyone For A Ride .. You Have Indeed Done A Wonderful Job By Not Shopping At the Supermarket .. I Hope I Have Answered you Satisfactorily .. See You Around ..
• India
28 Aug 09
They Do Rip You Off - Beware Of these Guys ..
We Can Do Nothing About these Super Markets .. They Act that Way Might Be Because They Have Political Support Or Because the Complaints Are not Reaching The Right Persons .. But Whatever the The Reason This Menace Has To Be Stopped .. They Are Causing Local Residents a Problem, I Do Understand ..
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
28 Aug 09
Hi prash, I'm not quite sure if I can go along with the politcal support for the supermarkets here, it's probably more a question of bribes. The irony is though that the guy who owns the supermarket which is locally owned rather than part of a chain has always been a supporter of the communist party
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
26 Aug 09
Good morning Prash, I can understand the reasoning behind it too, we are after all a captive audience as we don't have any other shops locally to pop into to buy our necessities, the two places are indeed our only choice. But I think they have just gone too far this time. I have no shame in putting an item back if I get to the checkout and discover a small melon when weighed comes to 4 euros when I know full well they are less than 1 euro in town. Multiply the price difference by all the other things in the basket and the trip to town becomes a necessity. But you'll be pleased to hear that when I put things back like the melon I do make a point of telling them it is way too expensive and how much it does cost in the town. So I am making a stand of not being taken for a ride.
@weasel81 (2496)
• Australia
25 Aug 09
we're not far from a tourist area. it's our local supermarkets that are the pain, even the local one in town is pricey, then you just don't want to walk in to the others 30 kms away from us. they are just to high like 1 to 2 dollars if not more than other places. even my work mate says the same thing. so we all go else where and make a night of it, and go out for tea and visit friends depending on where we go. thou the local supermarket was the better place to buy potatoes, believe it or not.
@weasel81 (2496)
• Australia
26 Aug 09
i was only saying about our local supermarkets, we actually take the longer drive of 50/60km away to do most of our shopping.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
26 Aug 09
It can be a drag sometimes though, especially this month when the only road is packed with tourists who have no idea at all of how to drive in Greece. Still I get to have a nice chat with all the locals when I get there about what a bother the road was getting up their that day
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
25 Aug 09
Oh come off it weasel, a 30 km hike through the bush is nothing to you aussies and I can't see you've got a thing to complain about with all those cheap potatoes to be had, very nutritous things potatoes, you could take them along to your friends houses when you pop along for tea and I'm sure they could cook them up for you. I'd suggest you make them into chips but know t
@Downwindz (2537)
• Netherlands
15 Sep 09
My parents live in a turist area, season during the Danish summer. It is clearly at the supermarkets and gasstations that the prices goes up, then it decreases during autumn and reach normal prices in the winter, and during spring prices tend to increase yet once and it all starts over. In winter you can shop at anytime during the day you want with no real ques, and in the summer you wouldnt even consider shopping at normal times, unless you do it early in the morning or in the evening when people are dining...
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
17 Sep 09
Hi Downwindz, it appears to be the same practice in tourist places all over, with the difference here that they forgot to put their prices back down again now at the end of the season. I've taken to shopping for everything an hour away where the prices are cheaper by far and will do this all year round from now on. I've found one of the best times to shop is during siesta hours, for foodstuffs, as all the shops close apart from the big supermarkets, so not only is it easier to park but they are generally empty as everyone is off sleeping the afternoon away.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
17 Sep 09
It is also, to our cost, the most expensive country in Europe.
@Downwindz (2537)
• Netherlands
17 Sep 09
Hey Thea, A very clever move for you, unfortuately food isnt considrably cheaper if we go to the closest larger towns, so what we would save would be used in gasoline. Instead my mum is an early bird (i envy her talent for that) and are at the supermarket when they open, then it is atleast not so crowdy so you have more freedom to do the shopping. Im supprised it is so much cheaper for you to dot he shopping an hour away, but not on the other hand Greece is also more a turist country compared to Denmark.
• United States
26 Aug 09
Well, does your income not depend on the tourist activity as well. I read the responses and your comments. Maybe I missed it however if your income relates to the tourism and I'm sure it does in some way maybe not direct but indirect. If you are so upset at the supermarket get even with them. Sell your fresh fruit right in front of their doors for less. Ok, maybe you want to stand a little around the corner.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
26 Aug 09
Hi ellaprice, I think only an idiot would be willing to disclose their income source on an on line forum so won't address your first point. Also I was not referring to just myself, this issue touches the whole community, especially the older people who cannot get to town often and already rely on other people to take them there for necessary appointments and hospital visits. Selling on the street is illegal and I do not have fresh fruit to sell, I receive my fruit from friends and I could think of nothing more insulting to them than selling it on.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
26 Aug 09
Hi, well I think that the only people who benefit from the high supermarket prices are the supermarkets but as I said earlier I expect one will close within the next year whilst the other one which is heavily involved in the local communiity will survive. I also presume they do offer a good discount to the local tavernas or else they would need to shop in town as well. One of them does offer a free delivery service which I've used the odd time when the car was out of action and they do open 365 days a year, so if forced to get something locally will use that one. They also let locals just pass over the money for an item when there is a large queue of tourists.
• United States
26 Aug 09
Sorry, I didn't know selling on the street is illegal, it's not very I am. I didn't really ask for your income course, what I was trying to say, if you life in a place that has a lot of tourist activity and the tourist activity does affect your income then you and the supermarket are in the same category. However if you income is totally none related to tourist activity such as you are on fixed income I can see the issue.
• United States
26 Aug 09
this sounds just like my area. they raise the prices in spring/summer,treat the resident buyers like crap the rest of the year except the deepest of winter when they're broke. thanks to internet sales,we don't have to buy from them now,so it's coming back to haunt them.stores were begging us to buy local last winter. pft..not at your prices or attitudes,ripoffs.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
26 Aug 09
Hi scarlet_woman, interesting to hear it goes on in your place two. We actually have two places to choose from and i expect one will close down within the next year as it has no atmosphere to it, the other one is locally owned and does provide excellent service beyond selling expensive food stuffs and always previously reduced its prices again at the end of the season but didn't last year. I would say as the owner is a well respected person locally and does go out of his way to help locals his business will continue, I just won't continue buying the bulk of my foodstuffs there. Previously I would do a massive shop in town and then pop in there for the day to day stuff but now I try and buy everything in town and go up every week. Unfortunately there isn't the option here of buying food over the internet.
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
25 Aug 09
I would be just like u, highly ticked off. Y'all are there year round, don't guess that occurs to the greedy things. I would not shop w/them anytime if i could help it. I shop in bulk anyway because it's hard for me to get around so i'd just stock up big time when i went to town. Sorry they do y'all that way but greediness has become a way of life w/so many people.
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
25 Aug 09
I'm sure u know this but i have found if u open a bag of salad mix & put the rest in a tupperware container it will keep for awhile. Romaine lettuce lasts alot longer than a regular head of lettuce. doesn't any of it last as long as i'd like for it to. I know u probably have to buy some things there but it would be very few if it was me. y'all should get a petition started & present it to the greedy guts & just let them know how u feel. I hope all of the locals boycott them.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
25 Aug 09
Hi Aunty, I do a massive stock up when in town about once a week but can't always guarantee that salad stuff will last that long and we get through loads. I get a lot of stuff given by local friends but the salad stuff was all ruined by the salt water recently. So I have the dimemna then, do I buy third rate salad stuff at 5 times the price, or hold out till I go to town again where it is fresh and cheap. I really resent paying 85 cents for a puny little cucumber when I can get 4 large healthy ones in town for 1 euro. Greed indeed.
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@srganesh (6339)
• India
26 Aug 09
It not only happens in tourists spots as you have told but it is the same with the shops within the theaters in our town.A snack pocket will definitely be over priced and the audience have to buy it without any choice.But that is different.For you,as a local resident it is a burden to travel some distance to get things in the right price.If possible,you think of starting a little shop where all the necessary items can be delivered at the right price.It will be a new business for you ans sure it will be a hit.Cheers!
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
26 Aug 09
Hi srganesh, you raise an issue with your theatre prices which shows how lucky we are here not to have theatres. Actually there are theatres but quite a long distance away and are of the outdoor variety sitting on stones. The order of the day there is bring your own snacks. As for starting a rival business I could never afford the brown envelopes involved (that's bribery money).
@jellymonty (2352)
26 Aug 09
Personally I think tourists are ripped off in any country! That's the reason why the tourism industry accounts for almost half the world's wealth. Unfortunately locals will always have to suffer the price tag hike especially during tourists times. Same thing happens in my area but most tourists are oblivious that they are actually being ripped off.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
26 Aug 09
Hi jellymonty, I agree that most tourists probably don't realise as they are already dealing with the change in currency and as most taverana and restaurant prices have not increased that mush they actually consider it a cheap place to visit. However this year with the cost increased so much in actually getting here the number of tourists has declined steeply and many tavernas have lost much of their usual business. Luckily we have a few places which are cheap and populated just by locals and wouldn't appeal to tourists who want the nice views and menus whilst they eat.
@Iriene88 (5343)
• Malaysia
26 Aug 09
Dear thea, This is definitely a rip off. They do not deserve any local customers as they only think of making extra additional profit. This is terrible I hope your place have a community whereby the local can set up a cooperative to sell the necessity items and products and are only sold to members. It is some sort of exclusivity to local who join as members with a member's card. Sometimes you all may enjoyed bulk discounts too. In Malaysia, they have this type of 'cooperative' but it only open to civil (government) servants. I hope this situation will improve. All the best and happy myLotting :)
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
26 Aug 09
Hi Iriene, just can't see a cooperative taking of here somehow. Anyway I'll be up to town tomorrow for a weeks supply of everything, and I'm going down to the fishing village in a little bit so will no doubt be told what fish and fruits are waiting for me. The rising prices even in town though now are becoming a problem, no more of items just going up a couple of cents, now they jump by about 30 cents so I really notice. I don't know if that particular kind of increase in food is normal in other countries at the moment.
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@Iriene88 (5343)
• Malaysia
27 Aug 09
Dear Thea, Oh yes, the price hike in Malaysia in substantial too. But certain necessary items is Governement Controlled like petrol, rice, flour, sugar, cooking oil.. However during Sale the price of other items are really cheap. One thing good about Malaysia especially the place that I stayed - Petaling Jaya, Klang Valley...too many hypermarkets - local and overseas. They tend to compete with each other.. Sometimes in a big Megamall, has two hypermarket in one mall. So they always have promotion. If you buy at normal price, it is very expensive, so we normally become smart buyer, buy during promotion only! Eg, packet drink like Yeo Hiap Seng soya bean drink. Normal Price RM2.89, Discount Price RM1.69 Thanks and Take Care :)
@malpoa (1213)
• India
26 Aug 09
Oh that puts you in a difficult situation. The place where I was born is also a tourist place but there wasnt a steep increase in price of regular commodities because teh town was just 8km away. But there was a price diffrence and my mother would buy dry groceries for two weeks at a stretch from the town. Also since our area is a coastal area, we had abundant fish both fresh and cheap. But your case, the shops are taking all the advantage of teh situation there. i wonder whether there isnt any price regulatory rule there? Here it is not allowed to sell things for more than the printed price. You too could order or buy things from the neares town in bulk for two-three weeks. That helps.
@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
25 Aug 09
Hello my friend I think that really sucks, where I am they probably do the same thing, if I were the tourist I would find out how much some would usually cost and decide from there, some people don't care they are their to spend money so But me I will be really unhappy if I knew this was happening, in NYC they have a lot of things people can buy and if they are in NY then they plan on spending money this place is the worst, everything is expensive here
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
25 Aug 09
Hi Kitty nice to see you again, when you say prices are expensive there do you mean much more so than in other parts of the states.? I would expect Manhattan would be very pricey but didn't think the less glitzy areas around would be too. The latest figures I heard were that Americans pay 3 times less than Greeks for the same kind of thing, yet where minimum wages apply yours are double those here. This is a new development here and we are not on a par with the rest of Europe.
@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
25 Aug 09
Hi thea Now see this is news to me,I always though NYC was the worst, guess I was wrong, still to darn expensive here, makes me sick lol
@zausiu (608)
• China
26 Aug 09
The same thing happens in my city. a coastal middle-sized city in Southern China. Prices is much higher in interesting places and tourists crowed parks. We residents always avoid to shop there and we buy everything in other places, such as convienience stores in around residential quarters. in my humble opinion, in a market environment point of view, maybe i don't think it is a rip off. Tourists themself know they shuld pay a higher price to buy someting in their trips/journeys.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
26 Aug 09
Hi zausiu, I'm inlcined to agree with the tourists paying a higher price and they do unwittingly subsidise certain things for all the locals without realising it. The cafenions would have increased the price of a Greek coffee by now if the tourists weren't paying more to drink different coffees so two of the places I frequent haven't put the coffee price up in 6 years now. But unlike you we don't have local convenience stores, we have 2 large food shops only, so we either pay the rip of prices or drive for an hour to town.
@cher913 (25781)
• Canada
25 Aug 09
we have 'tourist' areas here in southern ontario where i live (such as niagara falls). these are places that most avoid like the plague just because the prices are so high. sure they have nice stuff, but the price is not so nice.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
25 Aug 09
Hi cher, nice place to live. I know the sort of place you mean and I'd give them a wide berth whilst if it's a gifty type place the tourists are happy to pay for their momento from their holiday whereas locals wouldn't be shopping for that kind of thing in the first place. The ones I'm complaining about are the actual supermarkets selling food stuffs which we all have no choice but to buy.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
25 Aug 09
thea hi in this area in Ca they lay off p eople then raise'thprices which seems so awful. they would make more if they had sales and'sold more things at a lower price.the unemployed are not going to buy a lot of expensive stuff right now and most everyone is trying to be more'frugal. why hurt the buying public like that?
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
25 Aug 09
Hi Hatley, nice to see you again. I agree that in a recession they would gain more good will by reducing prices rather than by increasing them, people will remember afterwards these ridiculous and unnecessary price hikes. In our instance the people here who are really being ripped off here are the older people who find it difficult to get into town but aren't receiving an increase in pensions to match the rising food prices.
@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
25 Aug 09
Hey thea! I don't think that is right for the supermarkets to raise the prices even if it is for the tourists! I don't think that it is fair that they want to take advantage of the tourists either even if they aren't aware of this! And I especially don't think that it is right for them to do this knowing that their regular customers are being put out and chased away for more than half the year! What would they do if you all did go somewhere else for good? They really would be sorry then! It would serve them right if all their regular customers stopped shopping there altogether! Then they would have only tourist business half the year! Maybe they would then learn their lesson!
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
25 Aug 09
Hi Opal, I believe the general concensus is we'll still all be trouping into town because we're all capable of working out the savings. One of the supermakets though is locally owned by a good chap and he does look out for us locals in a way, he opens 365 days a year well into the evenings. He even got arrested a few times for opening on Sundays but he still went back and did it again. And when my car was in the garage and it had gone dark i just walked in the office there and one of the delivery drivers drove me home. But they must have noticed the drop in trade from the locals and I expect it will contine. The other place which is part of a chain and lacks the personal service I don't think will last the winter as anyone local will favour the other one.