Alright already! I'll quit asking for the birth certificate...
By debrakcarey
@debrakcarey (19887)
United States
August 25, 2009 10:02pm CST
These documents will do:
His passport files.
His University of Chicago Law School scholarly articles.
His Harvard Law School records.
His Columbia University records.
His Columbia University senior thesis, "Soviet Nuclear Disarmament".
His Occidental College records, including information on any financial aid that he received.
His Punahou School records, where Mr. Obama attended from the fifth grade until he finished high school.
His Noelani Elementary School records, where he attended kindergarten. (according to the Hawaii Department of Education, students must submit a birth certificate to register -- but parents may bring a passport or student visa if the child is from a foreign country)
His Complete files and schedules of his years as an Illinois state senator from 1997 to 2004.
Mr. Obama's client list from during his time in private practice with the Chicago law firm of Davis, Miner, Barnhill and Gallard.
His Illinois State Bar Association records.
His Baptism records.
The Obama/Dunham marriage license.
The Soetoro/Dunham marriage license.
His adoption records.
Barack Obama, according to a published report, has spent over one million dollars so far to STOP anyone from seeing ANY of his actual identification documents including the above listed documents.
Why?
First, Mr. Obama's refusal to release his birth certificate. If he has nothing to hide, what does he gain by refusing to allow the press to see the birth certificate?
Second, the contention by Barack Obama's half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng, that Mr. Obama was born in a particular Hawaiian hospital, only to claim that it was in a different hospital several years later. Plus, there is the recent letter that Mr. Obama wrote, contradicting his previous statements as to which hospital that he claims to have been born in, in Hawaii.
Third, the erecting of a wall around Barack Obama's grandmother, the late Madelyn Dunham, by Mr. Obama, thus cutting off access to the one person then alive who would have been present if he was actually born in Hawaii.
Fourth, the posting of law enforcement personnel at the two hospitals in Honolulu mentioned by Ms. Soetoro-Ng in an effort to block the press from discovering the truth about the birth certificate.
Fifth, a taped phone conversation with Mr. Obama's step-grandmother, who claims that she was present at his birth... in what is now called Kenya!
Sixth, the "birth certificate" posted on the Obama campaign website and other liberal websites. Since Barack Obama was born in 1961, long before laser printers and office computers, his original birth certificate would be typewritten ... unlike the laser printed "copy" purported to be genuine.
Over half of the public in the United States are aware of this issue, and over forty percent want the matter resolved.
Taken from a newsletter sent to me from the United states Justice Foundation.
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8 responses
@psychotaz206 (2086)
• United States
26 Aug 09
i would not let the press see it either because they will just cause more problems the only person that needed to see it saw it and thats all that really matters, i mean this is getting crazy for no reason. the bc i seen looks like mine the only diffrence is the info on it also there was a guy that lived next door to obalma and was there to see him brought home from the hospital in hawii so i don't see why people keep bringing it up the news where i am even said it was proved he was born in hawii
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
26 Aug 09
The only person that needed to see it saw it....
And who might that be?
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@psychotaz206 (2086)
• United States
26 Aug 09
mcCain seen it at least thats what he said because he questioned it when they where running and he showed it to him and whoever else had to see it at that time plus they posted it on the news awhile ago so the news that i watch just said they seen the proff so they don't even talk about it any more
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@psychotaz206 (2086)
• United States
26 Aug 09
i don't believe anything thats on the net because it is so easy to make things up i find out my info a diffrent way , the only people i can find that is still having a problem with this is the people on the net which are mainley on here everyone else i talked to said the bc was proof that he was born in hawii and thats all they needed.
If i was president and was asked to see it i would tell you no as well , hes not the only public person in office that says no i know a few that said if the public asked mainly the media they would tell them no as well.
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@dfollin (24233)
• United States
26 Aug 09
I just looked up the cost for a birth certificate in Hawaii.It cost $10.I also looked up the United States population.And according to the census records in April of 2000 (9 years ago)there were 281,421,906.That is only the amount of people that took the census.Since then,how many people were born and come to this country(thanks to Bush).Multiply that amount by $10 and have a birth certificate of Obama sent to everyone,so people will finally shut up.How would you like that amount of money spent.The people that needed to see the birth certificate saw it and it was broadcasted on the news.Why isn't that good enough? I know because you always need something to complain about.
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@psychotaz206 (2086)
• United States
26 Aug 09
thats my point as well i think people just don't want him in office period so they are going to try to bring up old stuff may be if he was a rep then they may not but a lot of other sure would because rep got us into this big mess.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
26 Aug 09
I did not suggest that everyone in the country needed to see it. How absurd. Complain? Now it's complaining to insist that the PRESIDENT actually adhere to the Consititution?
And I'd like to know the name of the person who you keep referring to...the one who 'needed' to see it, saw it?
Is that the latest...who'd he pay off to say it...if anyone actually did say it?
He's lied and lied...and lied some more about so many things. And it's be verified that he lied. And you call us who demand he be 'transparent' nuts? you all still believe him.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
26 Aug 09
Now there you are saying something I can agree with...I don't want him in office.2 people like this
@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
26 Aug 09
While these documents are required as well, since every other president has had to divulge all of their records.... I STILL require the release of is long form, hospital generated birth certificate.
I find it quite telling that the demoncrats required McCain to submit to a Congressional Hearing to prove his eligibility... which he did immediately and successfully... yet the same standards do not apply to this Usurper who so far has been given a pass by that same Congress.
0bama has proven himself to be a liar, and he is hiding the truth from us all.
He will not be able to do so forever.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
26 Aug 09
Destiny...I really would like to see that long form birth cerificate too.
But I've broadened my scope....like I told someone else to do in this discussion.
I believe if we saw his other documents too...even more rats would come scurrying out of the woodwork. 
@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
26 Aug 09
I agree with the list. Show me all, some or any of it. No other president has refused to release any personal records.
I should think that Obama supporters would be in favor of releasing his educational records since they claim he is the most intelligent president we've ever had. What a great way to prove it. Maybe all those who question his leadership qualifications would sit back and shut up in awe if we were to be exposed to his dizzying intellectual capabilities.
There's no ability in his supporters to look at any of these issues from an unbiased viewpoint and actually wonder why all the secrecy. Any questions posed to the president of "transparency" are met with unprecedented silence. If he is a great president, why is he unresponsive to 40% of the American people?
And no, it isn't about being mean to him or trying to make him look bad, as has been suggested. It's about the president answering what should be very simple questions that are very easily answered. The fact that no answers are forthcoming is what creates suspicion, not any campaign to discredit him.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
26 Aug 09
I am being very facectious here, but maybe he really believes he is the messiah. And wants us to believe he's come down out of the clouds with no human parents? 
Shoot me now....I'm ready for the fallout! 
Shoot me now....I'm ready for the fallout! 
@Fortunata (1135)
• United States
26 Aug 09
I recall the snickering over George Bush's college records, because he had low grades, well at least he didn't hide the darn things, like this current president. I'd also like to know why Michelle Obama was disbarred-supposedly over insurance fraud or some such thing. I'm sick of all this secrecy-sheesh, even if he didn't do well in college, who cares?? People who become president should have lives like an open book, not like in a vault in Get Smart like this president!
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
26 Aug 09
But new questions have been raised about Obama’s student loans and Obama’s ties to a radical Muslim activist who reportedly was raising money for Obama’s Harvard studies during the years 1988 to 1991.
The allegations first surfaced in late March, when former Manhattan Borough president Percy Sutton told a New York cable channel that a former business partner who was “raising money” for Obama had approached him in 1988 to help Obama get into Harvard Law School.
In the interview, Sutton says he first heard of Obama about twenty years ago from Khalid Al-Mansour, a Black Muslim and Black Nationalist who was a “mentor” to the founders of the Black Panther party at the time the party was founded in the early 1960s.
Sutton described al-Mansour as advisor to “one of the world’s richest men,” Saudi prince Alwaleed bin Talal.
Prince Alwaleed catapulted to fame in the United States after the September 11 attacks, when New York mayor Rudy Guiliani refused his $10 million check to help rebuild Manhattan, because the Saudi prince hinted publicly that America’s pro-Israel policies were to blame for the attacks.
Sutton knew Al-Mansour well, since the two men had been business partners and served on several corporate boards together.
As Sutton remembered, Al-Mansour was raising money for Obama’s education and seeking recommendations for him to attend Harvard Law School.
http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/obama_harvard_/2008/09/23/133199.html
@Carson11 (332)
• United States
26 Aug 09
Well? I want answers! Ask me for any records pertaining to me and I will give them to you. Holder is also refusing to step aside on this issue even though it is a clear conflict of interest. Do you people understand this is against the law? He must recluse himself from this case because Obama is his boss! Where is the outrage! All the other side has to say is we are crazy! You need to come up with something other than that! This is a simple matter. Obama has spent over a million dollars to prevent the release of ANY of his records! You don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to figure this out!
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
26 Aug 09
And there is evidence of tampering on his draft card as well.
For such a public figure...leader of the FREE world and all...he sure is secretive about his public papers.
His life story that he wrote..doesn't match the facts either. Much evidence has been uncovered that he was lying about some of the events.
AND...on the birth certificate shown on the stopthesmears website Obama Sr.'s race is listed as African.
"There is a narrow list of [acceptable] words, none of which are 'African,' which is what is on the Certification of Live Birth. Whatever [expletive deleted] liberal counterfeited the thing couldn't bring himself to say 'Negro.'"
Indeed, a 1961 summary of U.S. vital statistics by the Department of Health, Education and Welfare (now known as Health and Human Services) indicates:
Births in the United States in 1961 are classified for vital statistics into white, Negro, American Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Aleut, Eskimo, Hawaiian and Part-Hawaiian (combined), and "other nonwhite." The category "white" includes, in addition to persons reported as "white," those reported as Mexican or Puerto Rican. With one exception, a reported mixture of Negro with any other race is included in the Negro group; other mixed parentage is classified according to the race of the nonwhite parent and mixtures of nonwhite races to the race of the father.
Many people remain unaware that someone doesn't even have to be born in Hawaii to receive a COLB, as those birth documents can be granted to children born out of state or even America.
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@finlander60 (1804)
• United States
26 Aug 09
Over forty percent want the matter resolved. I guess the other about 60 percent DON'T WANT THIS MATTER RESOLVED. WHY NOT? Do they have something to hide? Maybe they were sold a bill of goods and don't want to be known HOW NAIVE THEY REALLY ARE. IS THIS POSSIBLE?
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
26 Aug 09
No...I think they're just scared sh*tless and really really want him to be the messiah...or superman even. They realize that we're in deep doo doo as a nation and the world in general is headed to a real scarey place...but this guy isn't gonna save anyone folks...he's the one who is going to take us to that scarey place and they just don't want to realize it.
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
1 Sep 09
The people continue to want this proof? I am mildly curious and very much concerned, but I doubt that he'll ever reveal this information. What he doesn't realize is that it's looking very bad on him to not use this information, and from another discussion of yours I've read, I learn that they want to pass a law that states that future candidates running for the presidency must show a birth certificate. I wonder why they need a law for something that should be required either way. One must be a natural born citizen of this country... I suppose Obama used his printed birth certificate.
