There should be a special place in hell...

@dawnald (84078)
Shingle Springs, California
August 28, 2009 3:35pm CST
for child molesters... I went home for lunch and a soap opera and there was a news break talking about the latest in the Jaycee Dugard case. It's all over the local news because she was kidnapped in my county, among other things. The Sheriff was saying that his office had received a report that could have led to the girl being found in 2006: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090828/ap_on_re_us/us_kidnapped_girl_found Meanwhile the reporter was saying that there is a bail hearing for the kidnappers at 1 PM. That just pushed all the wrong buttons with me. I was sad. I was mad. I was I don't know. I realize that there's pretty much no chance that these people will be granted bail, but just the idea that it's even in the realm of possibility got me upset. Even if I didn't have a 12 year old daughter and an (almost) 9 year old son and daughter, the idea would upset me. Geez, this girl was kidnapped, raped, kept prisoner for 18 years, had 2 children with the idiot, no medical, no dental, no schooling, her mom's marriage broke up, her family no doubt thought she was dead. Never mind bail. How about throwing these two into the general prison population with large tattoos saying "I am a child molester"? If there isn't a special place in hell for people like this, there should be!!!
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@jillhill (37379)
• United States
28 Aug 09
I totally agree......do you know what is so sad? Today I went to work and one of my coworkers told me that she was leaving early....because she was up all night with her four year old granddaughter who had just spilled the beans about her thirteen year old uncle that has also been molesting her.....they immediately took her to the hospital and the police were called.....my friend told me some of the details of what he did to the little girl.....sick....just sick and if it were me....he would be someplace where no one would ever find him again....and he wouldn't be breathing......
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@dawnald (84078)
• Shingle Springs, California
28 Aug 09
omg that is awful... yeah he wouldn't be breathing now, but he would be right when I cut his balls off... grrrrrrrr......
@ravinskye (8242)
• United States
29 Aug 09
That is very sad that the little girl was abused, but I don't believe that at 13 that kid should be punished. Most likely he was molested as a child and that is the reason for him doing it. He needs help and counseling too. I don't know what all he did so maybe that wouldn't be enough, but I also know a boy who was molested as a child and he started doing things to other kids and they got him counseling and he is fine now. The cycle has to be broken somewhere.
@ravinskye (8242)
• United States
29 Aug 09
I agree with you. Adult offenders need to be punished very severely. especially since there are so many that manage to get free, only to do it again. Adults should know better and the fact that it is a child so much younger makes it worse. But for a child to do it to another child, they should be helped first before given up on. Though I think it needs to go on record what they have done. Last I heard courts do no recognize child on child molestation. I heard a story on the news where a boy was molested by a teenager who had done it to 3 other children but it was never made record because he was a minor. If they mother had known that she could have stopped it.
@doolydul (47)
• Philippines
29 Aug 09
I'd like to skin him and his wife alive. Then sew them back together and then skin them alive and so on until I die. There are so many reports about child molesters nowadays that it's hard not to be paranoid about the protection your kids. We can just hope that the authorities learned something from this and will be more forceful if there's another suspected case because thinking of what the victims must have felt can make any sane person puke. May child molesters and rapists rot on earth and in hell!
@dawnald (84078)
• Shingle Springs, California
29 Aug 09
amen
• United States
29 Aug 09
ack i thought i knew the story, but i just went and read the article link you provided. i knew the cops had not gone in the house, but complaints were made of kids living in tents in the backyard and they did NOT even look in the BACKYARD?! WTF?! and his WIFE let it go on! hell according to that article she MET him while he was in prison for RAPE! omg BOTH of them deserve that special place in hell!
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@ANTIQUELADY (36468)
• United States
28 Aug 09
AMEN, YOUR SUGGESTION MAY BE BETTER THAN MINE, i SUGGESTED THEY BE SHOT OR HUNG.
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@ANTIQUELADY (36468)
• United States
28 Aug 09
I know neighbor's & people don't want to get involved in anything anymore but i believe if that crap was going on in my neighborhood i would notice it.
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@dawnald (84078)
• Shingle Springs, California
28 Aug 09
I wish somebody had noticed...
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@ANTIQUELADY (36468)
• United States
29 Aug 09
Good idea, then they'd all go down in a pile. They are disgusting.
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@Humbug25 (12551)
28 Aug 09
Hi there dawny I only heard about this today as this story has only just broke the news over here. I can totally understand your frustrations and agree with you 100%. This poor young lady has lost her childhood and can you imagine giving birth under the conditions she was living in? What that poor girl has suffered is unbearable to think about. I am so happy that her own parents have now got her back though. So did her stepdad and mum split up then? I know her stepdad was accused for years of having abducted her so now at least the people that still thought he had have been proven wrong and he can hold his head high, I hope.
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@dawnald (84078)
• Shingle Springs, California
28 Aug 09
Yeah, they did split up, but yeah he can finally hold his head up again...
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@Humbug25 (12551)
28 Aug 09
Aww that is a shame but this sort of thing does put a lot of pressure on a relationship. I think it either makes it stronger or breaks it and in this case they parted, such a shame. I am sure that there were people about that still believed he had done it up until a few days ago!!
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@dawnald (84078)
• Shingle Springs, California
28 Aug 09
Probably true. Apparently he saw the abduction and he chased the car as far as he could on a bike. Too bad he only had a bike...
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@zed_k4 (17624)
• Singapore
29 Aug 09
My exact sentiments match exactly as you for this discussion. A child rapist, he should receive capital punishment. What moronic monster behavior of a person have the heart to do all this? How did he get so sick, I was trying to figure out.. Is the desire so important that all moral values should be pushed aside. And whatever was the sick wife doing too? Obviously, she was in cahoots too, couldn't be that she did not know of her husband's behavior at all.
@zed_k4 (17624)
• Singapore
29 Aug 09
Ahh, I saw the news and the pictures of the yard. So sad, Alice..no other words to say..
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@dawnald (84078)
• Shingle Springs, California
29 Aug 09
Like the story of Bluebeard where the wife was forbidden to look in one room in the castle, the one that had the bodies of all his previous wives. But in reality, I just cannot imagine that the wife did not know.
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@zed_k4 (17624)
• Singapore
31 Aug 09
Being forced to keep quite; perhaps the husband threatened to kill her or something? I don't know too.. only she knows why she's been quiet about it. Lest she's a monster too, like him...
@Sissygrl (10914)
• Canada
29 Aug 09
I heard about this from my friend and read the article in her local online paper.. see my theory on these people is they should gather them all up, put them in a big pit and tell them the last man/woman standing gets to go free.. if there are any survivors, we set them on fire with a can of gas and a match and walk away..
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@Sissygrl (10914)
• Canada
29 Aug 09
lol deal mike.
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@dawnald (84078)
• Shingle Springs, California
29 Aug 09
and a few other nasty surprises too...
@carolbee (16231)
• United States
29 Aug 09
I totally agree with you. I was home yesterday eating lunch and began to read the article about this kidnapping in our local paper. I couldn't finish reading it. I don't think jail time is enough for this couple but once they enter jail, someone will for sure beat the he** out of both of them for being child molesters. Other prisoners don't like those kind of inmates. Our local news this morning is reporting both these distorted people have pleaded not guilty. That's an insult to the public and our system. Capital punishment in this kind of case is just to simple. It makes my blood boil when I hear of these cases. Maybe the way to handle people of this nature is to keep them all housed in one prison. Make them live in the kind of surroundings this poor victim and her kids were forced to live in. Better yet, house them in a compound where wild animals and outdoor life in all kinds of weather is where they need to live. I do believe in an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth in this kind of situation. We have three grown daughters and now 5 grandkids. Let some distorted molester rape one of them and do the things this idiot did to Jaycee and I would have a real problem keeping my hands off him. My prayers are with Jaycee, her kids and her parents and other relatives. Will be a long road to recovery.
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@dawnald (84078)
• Shingle Springs, California
29 Aug 09
If they ever do recover...
@carolbee (16231)
• United States
30 Aug 09
This is true. May not ever recover but lots of therapy might help them cope.
• United States
29 Aug 09
Oh I defeniatly think they have reserved seating....I mean, you know something is bad when men in jail for murder and robbery or whatever, want to beat the crap out of another prisoner...child molestors and child killers are basically "tatto'd" in jail...word gets around in a jail when a child is involved in someones crime, and it is NOT popular. I get sick whenever I hear about children being hurt, in any way. I just can not imagine how anyone could ever harm someone SO helpless and innocent.
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@dawnald (84078)
• Shingle Springs, California
29 Aug 09
Yeah word gets around. I'm sure they won't be safe in jail. And I don't feel bad about that at all...
• United States
30 Aug 09
Oh I defeniatly don't feel bad for them either! I don't think anyone does. They deserve any kind of beat down they come across. So, what happened to the kidnapped girl and her children?
@Sandra1952 (6052)
• Spain
29 Aug 09
Hello Dawn. I too am sickened to the stomach by this. This man is guilty of murder, because he killed that child and her childhood the first time he raped her. How can she ever hope to have anything like a normal life after this? I'd imagine she'll find the media hype even more traumatic than what she's already suffered. There are so many unbelievable things about this case. If it had been written as a novel, any self respecting publisher would have rejected it as a completely twisted fantasy which would sully the minds of all who read it. No punishment is too barbaric for these two, because the wife must have been in on it as well. All we can hope is that their fellow prisoners get to know - which usually happens in these cases - and rough justice is served before this sick pair get to court. The fact that they've pleaded not guilty means that the girl's family - and the rest of the world - will have to listen to all the disgusting details. Let's hope they either change their pleas or meet someone sinister in the shower.
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@dawnald (84078)
• Shingle Springs, California
29 Aug 09
I'm all for the shower. Why waste tax money on these two?
• Spain
30 Aug 09
I take your point, Alice. However, this girl was a mother at 14, while she was still a child herself. Perhaps what I mean is that he killed her childhood innocence. However you phrase it, no punishment is too barbaric for this sicko.
@ShepherdSpy (8561)
• Omagh, Northern Ireland
29 Aug 09
Why would they even be considering bail for a kidnapper/Child Molester?
@dawnald (84078)
• Shingle Springs, California
29 Aug 09
I suspect that holding the hearing is a requirement and that bail was never seriously an option. But just hearing the words really upset me.
• Omagh, Northern Ireland
30 Aug 09
Ah...So letting them THINK they had a snowball in Hell's chance of making bail is just a preliminary to what they can expect...Devious..I LIKE it!
• United States
7 Sep 09
they're thinking now there may have been more children,but the guy killed them. he should not be getting bail at all,what are they thinking?
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@dawnald (84078)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Sep 09
He didn't get bail, the hearing was just a formality. But just the idea made me sick...
@dorannmwin (36655)
• United States
31 Aug 09
I couldn't possibly agree with you more. Not just for the child molesters, but the all of the people that do anything to hurt a child. I hope that they aren't granted bail, they definitely shouldn't be. Jaycee is the same age that I am, and I couldn't even begin to imagine how much different my life would be had I not had the opportunity to have the things that I have in my life. And for her to have had to have two children with the man that did that to her is just not even right at all. As it stands, I don't think they will survive long in jail. They don't even have to be tattooed saying "I am a child molester" people like this have to be kept in isolation while they are in prison or in most situations they won't survive. At least that is what my father said when he was alive. He worked at a federal prison.
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@dawnald (84078)
• Shingle Springs, California
31 Aug 09
Whatever happens, I'm sure neither one will be getting out of prison alive. But it's like I read in an editorial yesterday, there is just no punishment possible to fit the crime.
@Puneet097 (121)
• India
30 Aug 09
you r absolutely right the only place for such offender of laws is hell and u can't give them a chance to restart their life. A girl who had been raped would have faced mental and physical torture and she should be given proper justice
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@dawnald (84078)
• Shingle Springs, California
31 Aug 09
I read this in an editorial in yesterday's paper: "There is no possible punishment that can fit this crime."
@coolpk87 (69)
• India
29 Aug 09
what a shame?? these sinners dump their morale in the gutter !!! The person, Sorry not 'person' but a wild "animal" should be kept alive and tortured in a similar way all his life.!!
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@dawnald (84078)
• Shingle Springs, California
29 Aug 09
what would that do to the person who is torturing them though? better to execute them, I think!
• United States
29 Aug 09
This is a very sad situation with Jaycee and there should be no bail at all. He should go straight to prison in the general population which is hell. They would take care of him the right way. that is exactly what he needs. I have no feeling for child molestors either and think they all should have horrible things done to them since they have no remorse about doing it to children. I also agree there is a difference between a child doing it to a child and an adult molestor doing it to a child. That is why they should go to prison, you have to be an adult to go there and by then if you do have a problem you should have it straightened out with therapy and help before you turn an adult. My heart goes out to all parents who have a child that has been violated because as a parent myself I dont' know that I could handle it. i have a feeling I would be in prison when it was all said and done because I would seriously consider harming the person that hurt my innocent baby. It truly would drive me to drink and go crazy. Children are here for us to protect them and the guilt I would have for not protecting them would eat me alive. Child Molestors should all rot in hell
@dawnald (84078)
• Shingle Springs, California
29 Aug 09
@bamby1983 (286)
• India
29 Aug 09
Dear Dawnald, There IS a special place in hell for people like this. I'm not saying that coz I'm religious or coz I'm trying to comfort you. I know this for a fact because I'm psychic and I've experienced a part of what humans refer to as "hell" during a lucid dream. In case you think I'm just making this up as I go along, I have my website (that took me months to build) to show for it. Here's a link: www.zartonia.com/the-psychic-realm/intro.html To understand the concept of that "special place in hell," let's use a simple analogy we can relate to. People go to a place corresponding to their spiritual vibrational level. Consider a place where child molesters and other such monsters go to. They would all be torturing and hurting each other almost constantly. The energy in such a place would be full of anger, rage, vengeance, despair, pain, suffering and sorrow. Anger and vengeance would drive these people to hurt more of their counterparts in this world, thereby increasing and intensifying these energies even more and dragging them lower and lower down. It's a downward spiral with intense suffering that only increases as you go lower. These people have to pay for their sins by paying of karma and going through much worse than what their victims had to go through. They also have to suffer in these horrid lower places that we call hell. They may get bail from the courts, but they cannot get bail from God. They will pay for their actions dearly, make no mistake about it.
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@dawnald (84078)
• Shingle Springs, California
29 Aug 09
I hope you are right.
@levyx22 (187)
• United States
29 Aug 09
I agree..Only sick, sick people are child molesters and I do believe strongly, that they belong in hell. There is no place for people who commit child related crimes on this earth. It's completely wrong, and the people who commit these horrible crimes deserve to suffer.
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@dawnald (84078)
• Shingle Springs, California
29 Aug 09
It has to be stopped somehow...
@anne25penn (3310)
• Philippines
29 Aug 09
I would suggest that these people be sent to a Mexican prison. Maybe there, they will know the definition of hell. It does not matter to me if these two have been molested when they too were children. It is not an excuse to do the same to other people. I don't really believe in hell. Because no one really knows what happens when we die. So why not make their lives as miserable as possible while they are still alive. My heart also goes out to the kidnap victim. It will take a lot of therapy to make her whole again.
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@dawnald (84078)
• Shingle Springs, California
29 Aug 09
If they were molested as children, I feel badly for the children that they once were, but I don't feel bad for them as adults. Not at all...
@JenInTN (27546)
• United States
29 Aug 09
That story is nuts! How in the world could that have happened? I can not express how sick it makes me feel to know that someone could get away with that for so long. I can not imagine the mental trauma that it must caused to that girl and what about the children? Were they bothered as well? If not how will they explain their origin to them later..This is nuts!
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@dawnald (84078)
• Shingle Springs, California
29 Aug 09
I heard that he didn't touch the children. I hope he didn't. It's bad enough as it is...