The Most Unbiased and Scientific Objection to Abortion I've Ever read.....

That was my intention. My faith has a lot to do with it too. But there are those who are not of any faith in God...and this seemed a good way to appeal to them.

I believe it's worth a try.

If i would have been killed,it would be my destiny and if somebody is destined to come to this earth,he will come no matter what he has to suffer to take birth. You are talking about technologies and advancement but in India in remote villages people are ignorant about the conceiving period of 9 months and the expectant does not even know when is her due date.How can you expect those people to consult a doctor who can save them or their child when the foetus is not developing well. Mam situation is not same everywhere.

With much respect bamrahkirti...if it is one's destiny to be born are we not interfering with that destiny to prevent birth? And if we can send in doctors to those remote villages to abort, can we not send in doctors to save the mother and child with the advantages of modern technology? I fully understand that it is not the same in all parts of the world. Philosophically we differ in minor points. I too believe in fates...but I also believe that there is a controlling influence to these fates...the Creator God who expects us to value our own lives as well as the life of the unborn. I believe He has given us the gift of choice...for life, or against life. And that He has warned us the consequences of both choices.

One does NOT HAVE TO abort. Why is someone's not wanting more kids enough of a reason to kill a helpless human? Perhaps you should be killed if someone does not want you? Perhaps it is found out after your birth that you have a genetic desease...ooops you gotta go! Maybe you loose your job and can't find another...should we take your life? Save your own life? I've read papers written by doctors that say the need to abort to save the mothers life is very rare...and usually happens late in pregnancy from toxemia...and we now have the knowledge and technology to save pre term babies as young as 24-26 weeks...so why abort when a C section and NICU would save both baby and mother? Put your own life in the place of the child's life...and ask yourself if there is any good reason to kill YOU?

I believe it ..life is sacred..no matter what form its your own flesh..and should be given a voice for the unborn child..

I agree!

greenfeathers, you make a much more convincing argument. I believe each person has been given free agency and may choose whatsoever they will. I also believe each of us will be held accountable for all our choices. I've enjoyed your post, thanks for your insight.

I agree also...and have used that argument in other discussions. It is interesting that you say that scientific evidence is much like history, that it changes with persuasion. But that is a point for a discussion on evolution. The evidence on the biology of fetal development may change....but I doubt it will regress. Whatever we find out will only progress to further prove the 'humanness' of the fetus... conclusively. After all, it is not THEORY...these are proven facts.

As I put in another post earlier yesterday, I believe in evolution in that it is growth and development. I do not, however, believe in Darwinism (interspecies evolution). For me it is a fanciful theory 'speculated' to be true. If it were a natural action, as Darwin theorized, why then does it not continue? Why would it have stopped abruptly with the emergence of 'modern' man? Did mother nature run out of options in such a highly diverse universe? I have been given the argument in the past that with the emergence of man (as we know man) there was no need for the process to continue..What ego!..Because if such were the case why then would the process have not stopped at cro-magnum or neanderthal? Unless mother nature were cognitive and halted the process with 'man' but that leads us back to an entity that most Darwinists chose not to believe in and a process that conflicts with Darwinistic theory. Sorry about drifting to the side road there, but I needed to explain why scientific evidence of fetal development to one side of the fence or t'other is not applicable in my argument, as I do not accept Darwin's theory for the aforementioned reasons. There is no doubt as to the humanity of the fetus. What I wonder about is the beligerence of the argument. In no other species on earth do we question the value of the fetus in the species it was conceived. Even with insects which may go thru multiple stages of growth we never doubt that it is of its species. Yet, with man, we have the arrogance to want to believe that we have conceived something NOT of our species! Leaving theology out, as per request, why would there be so many species that conceive of their species and one wild card that would not? What would be the point? Again, THERE IS NO DOUBT AT THE HUMANITY OF THE HUMAN SPECIES!!!

It's real strange to me that when it supports the view of evolution, science is the FINAL word. But when it supports the definition of life as 'beginning at conception' it's b/s. Under the law...in my learned opinion...you are suspect of not being a thinking human being....maybe I should appeal to the supreme court for the right to kill you? It's obvious to me that you did not read the article...and for that reason alone I should not even give you the response I have...how can you discuss a subject if all YOU do is spew out your opinion. READ the evidence before you attempt to put ME in my place.

@MachaMongRuad - I didn't see anything impolite about Debra's response.

What I am wondering is why MachaMongRuad would be offended at seeing a parasite? ????? I put that warning up for those who value human life and would not like to see one so violently destroyed.

It is good to see that there are people who are advocates for the unborn. Thanks Maximax8...

Thank you Hatley...here's another good link that discusses the development in detail. http://www.abortionfacts.com/online_books/love_them_both/why_cant_we_love_them_both_12.asp#When does the heart begin to beat?