Is or was Van Jones a "truther"
By xfahctor
@xfahctor (14113)
Lancaster, New Hampshire
September 4, 2009 10:47am CST
The short answer is, no, he isn't. Most people in the 9-11 truth movement are political libertarians, though most libertarians AREN'T in fact truthers, it is a movement deviod of the two big political parties as they believe that both are part of a larger shadow government known as the "NWO".
However, I wanted to investigate this a little further, so I went straight to the source, got it from the horses mouth so to speak, I went right to "truthers". I now submit to you, the following document, please note signitory number 46:
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041026093059633
In fairness, Van Jones is claiming he didn't understand what he was signing, but is this something we can believe of someone as intelligent as Jones? I don't know what to think about that, I supose it is POSSIBLE he didn't understand what he was signing or it is possible he did know full well and was either a.) jumping on a popular anti-Bush bandwagon at the time or b.) sincerely believed the Bush adminsitraion was in fact either behind it or had prior knowlege and ignored it either out of incompetence or the realization that it presented great oportunity.
SO, I am just curious to hear all your thoughts on the matter. Please, before responding here, PLEASE READ ALL THE OTHER RESPONSES TO THE THREAD, and also, please, avoid canned responses such as "where were you when so and so was doing such and such".
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
4 Sep 09
If you call a dog's tail a leg, how many legs does a dog have?
FOUR...calling a tail a leg, does not make it a leg.
Van Jones admitted to being a communist. We can try to call him a decent American who only wants to clean up our environment...but he's still a communist.
His attitude has been documented and if the White House stands by him...we can then rest assured that the White House agrees with his attitude.
@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
4 Sep 09
I suspect that come tuesday, he will be writing his resume, I cannot see him remaining in this position much longer, not with the endless parade of controversy that has come to light the last few weeks or so. Marque my words, I am predicting he is gone with in a week, or less.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
4 Sep 09
you don't think that Obama will find a way to make this all go away as he's done with other controversy?
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@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
4 Sep 09
Honestly, I think he signed it because it was anti-Bush and maybe also because there were a lot of glitzy, famous and glamorous people who were also signing it. Sort of like fame through association. But I doubt he didn't know what it was that he signed.
This is the least of his associations that concern me. He has so many others that are downright worrisome and anti-American that this is like a footnote to me. Even his nasty mouth that he's apologized for (yeah, like I buy that apology) is not a big problem for me. It's his ties to these other organizations that were and are radical and Communist. There are no rumors here, we have his own words and video of him speaking them to support those allegations.
The liberals support these satellite people to their own peril. This blindness of party affiliation being supreme is dangerous to our country, regardless of which party you support. People need to look beyond party loyalty and make loyalty to our country supreme.
Truthfully, I think we're in deep sh1t.
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@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
4 Sep 09
I have to amend my opinion based on this:
"Jones was on the organizing committee of a 2002 protest march in San Francisco that demanded inquiries into the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States. In 2004, Jones was one of "100 notable Americans" who signed a "911 Truth Statement" from 911Truth.org. The statement called "for immediate public attention to unanswered questions that suggest that people within the current administration may indeed have deliberately allowed 9/11 to happen, perhaps as a pretext for war." Jones' name appears as "Van Jones, executive director, Ella Baker Center for Human Rights", signer number 46 to the document. In September of 2009, Jones issued a statement regarding the 9/11 truth letter saying "the petition that was circulated today, I do not agree with this statement and it certainly does not reflect my views now or ever." However, 911Truth.org spokesman Mike Berger was quoted by The Washington Times as saying organization board members "spoke with each person on the list by phone or through email to individually confirm they had added their name to that list. I think in most cases they spoke to them personally. No one’s name was put on that list without them knowing it.” A White House official explained Jones' signature by saying that he did not review the document carefully before signing it."
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@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
4 Sep 09
One thing I want to clarify is that Van Jones is no libertarian, either small or big l. I am a Libertarian and I have to found anything the we could possible agree on.
As to whether or not Van Jones is or not a truther does not actually bother me. If someone said that they believe 9-11 was an inside job but I agreed if their view of the role of government for say, I would see nothing wrong with them. The bigger issue is all of Van Jones's other ideas and beliefs.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
5 Sep 09
I also think it could be possible he didn't fully understand what he was signing but I think the more likely explanation is that in that emotional time shortly after 9/11 I think it was pretty easy to be pulled into a "conspiracy theory" of sorts even for someone intelligent and educated like Van Jones. If you throw in the fact he likely didn't like Bush or others in his Administration, that makes it easier to understand. I'm no "truther" or conspiracy theorist but I don't think the questions this group has are all that outrageous or unreasonable. I still have questions I'd like to have answered and I know I'm not the only one. I don't believe anyone in the Bush Administration was "behind" the attacks but I do think there was some incompetence involved.
Annie
@AngryKittyMSV (4317)
• United States
5 Sep 09
I don't know for sure whether or not he's a truther, but I DO know he is an ex-con and a communist and that he has publicly stated that Republicans are "assh0les".
Not exactly the guy I'd choose to be in an unaccountable high powered position as a "special adviser" to the president. See for yourself: (mylot won't let me post the link as-is, so I have to replace the "a" with an "@" and you will have to change the "@" to an "a" in your addressbar to get to the story)
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/02/white-house-green-jobs-adviser-republicans-@ssholes/?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a16:g2:r2:c0.131849:b27525690:z0
