Education In Schools

United States
September 4, 2009 4:58pm CST
I am absolutely outraged by the parents who called my school is "concern" over Obama's address being shown at school. My mom is pulling me out of school, so I can watch it, instead of vice versa. Obama is going to help better the students of America, and to help them stay in school. When your kid drops out of school tell me how you feel. Will you pull your kids out because they are showing this in school?
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@ZephyrSun (7382)
• United States
4 Sep 09
That's great that your mom is allowing you to be informed and make your own decision. It actually shows on my children's first day of school so even if I were a conservative I wouldn't make them miss the first day because of my political views.
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@Carson11 (332)
• United States
5 Sep 09
We need them to learn how to get on these government programs. We need to teach our children how evil corporations have ruined our plan for a socialist utopia. We need to teach our kids to support Obama since he is the source for all that is good and fair. We need teach them that the constitution is just rubbish. We need a new way of doing things. We should worship Obama as our GOD. Together we can have change. Long live Communism!!!
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@ZephyrSun (7382)
• United States
5 Sep 09
You're so pathic
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• United States
5 Sep 09
I couldn't agree with you more Zehpyr.
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@clrumfelt (5449)
• United States
4 Sep 09
I don't see the need to keep my kids out of school on the day they show it. They both understand what is happening in the Obama administration and I seriously doubt they could be swayed by the propaganda he presents. But my kids are older, age 14 and 16. If they were young and impressionable I probably would keep them home.
• United States
5 Sep 09
Clrum, do you decide what your kids wear when they leave the house? Do you tell them what kind of music to listen to? Do you allow them to think for themselves?
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@clrumfelt (5449)
• United States
5 Sep 09
When they were very young and impressionable, I made many of those decisions for them. When they were a little older, I gave them more choices. They are teenagers now and I trust them to be able to think for themselves most of the time. I still feel the need to watch over them, and probably always will.
• United States
5 Sep 09
greatdebater- most parents of young kids do those things. Yes I dress my kids for the day. I give them some say in it. But if it is 20 degrees out I don't let them wear shorts and a t-shirt. I also like to make sure their clothes some what match. My son is 6 and horrible at that. SO I help him out. I only let them listen to age appropriate music. At ages 6 and 2 you can bet I am not letting them listen to rock or rap. Just kids music.(and not kids bop either) Think for themselves? Trust me. My kids are very opinioned. They do really well at thinking for themselves. They think candy should be a breakfast, lunch and dinner meal. But as mom I tell them no and why. So yes I make decisions for them. Yes I tell them what to do . Yes I pre-screen books, DVDs, video games, etc....BEFORE they play them to make sure it is ok for them. I am even picky about what TV shows they get to watch and how much TV time they get everyday. It is called being a parent.
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@stealthy (8188)
• United States
4 Sep 09
In my opinion there is already too much propaganda in schools in the books and by the teachers and unfortunately most of it is slanted toward the left. There should be none slanted in any direction. When I went to school that was how it was, no propaganda just facts and we had better grades and higher graduation rates.
@irishidid (8710)
• United States
5 Sep 09
Is your mom planning on watching it with you? That would be great if she is and as you seem to have a good head on your shoulders you'll make your own decisions on what you think about it. This is far, far better than having the school do it for you. Parents need to be involved in what is being taught to their kids. Kids aren't going to drop out or stay in school based on what some adult says. They never did before and I don't see it happening now.
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• United States
5 Sep 09
No she is not going to watch it with me because she is going to be away at work. But the thing is I'm old enough to form my own opinions. I'm not ignorant or naive. I don't need her to be around. Plus my grandmother is going to be there. What these ignorant parents don't understand is, Obama's speech isn't going to help their kids stay in school, or what not, it all depends on the parents. Drop out rates are because the parents don't get involved. When people start learning that, we will all be better off.
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@irishidid (8710)
• United States
5 Sep 09
Being old enough to understand and form your own opinions is not the same as being mature. From your posts I've read you qualify as being mature enough to understand. That can't be said of everyone your age or even older. Even so, if there is something you question about what you hear (not only in his speech but in everything in life) find out the truth for yourself.
• United States
5 Sep 09
Lets be realistic here. He is just the president. A kid is not going to drop out of school just because they did not hear Obama tell them not to. Nor are they likely to stay just because the president told them to. It all comes down to the parents. If the parents raise a child to feel education is important than they will stay in school and get good grades. If the parents do not care if the kid shows up to school and learns then the child won't feel its important and therefore won't put any effort into learning. If all he is going to talk about is the importance of eduaction....then great. But he might a well be talking to the wind. He does not have as much influence on a child's life or decisions as the parents. As for my child. Well I virtual school so we will do school as normal that day here at home just like we do everyday. Will I let him watch the speech? Well not live. I will watch it myself first. Then decide if it is appropriate for him. If it is than yes I will let him watch later in the day. As long as Obama talks about how important education is I will let him watch it. But my son is 6 so I prescreen just about everything he watches or reads to make sure it is age appropriate for him and does not have any content that is not appropriate for him. I think the big deal is being made for one reason. No one knows what is going to come out of his mouth. Weather or not he going to just stick to the importance of education or if he going to add in some of his policy leanings. I think they should let the parents see a copy of the speech BEFORE it is given.Plus a copy of all the worksheets that are going to be used by the teachers BEFORE they are used. THen let the parents decide if they want their kids involved with it or not. But at the beginning and end of the day......it is the parents choice. It is their children. They get to decide what they do. Or what they don't do.
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@irishidid (8710)
• United States
5 Sep 09
Well said. I got accused of being a right winger, which couldn't be farther from the truth. I had the same issue with the DARE program. I don't approve of propaganda and half truths being taught to kids. I want to know what my kids are being taught.
• United States
6 Sep 09
I have the same issue with anyone who wants to talk to my kids without me either being there myself or knowing what is going to talked about. It is not a political thing. It is not a party thing. It is a parent thing.
• United States
5 Sep 09
I agree with you 100%, but that is because I have an open mind (unlike many on here). I give people a chance, instead of assuming they are going to do something bad. It is important to voice your opinion Ashley, and don't allow others on here to silence you.
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@ParaTed2k (22971)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
5 Sep 09
How is teaching you to support Obama, and making you make goals in how you can better support him making you a better person?
• United States
5 Sep 09
I disagree with this because people are assuming what is going to be in his speech. No one knows what's going to be in his speech because no one has read or seen it. People need to stop the assumptions.
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@Carson11 (332)
• United States
5 Sep 09
ashley, We will soon find out what he says. It will be easier to debate then.
@ParaTed2k (22971)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
5 Sep 09
We dont' know what will be in the speech, but we do know what is in the assignments to teachers and students. Part of it is having the students come up with goals about how they can best support Obama. The teachers are to monitor the progress of the students in reaching those goals.
@Latrivia (2888)
• United States
6 Sep 09
A president talking to students isn't going to help them stay in school. Sorry, but there's just no way that many students are going to take that stuff to heart, and not hearing him isn't going to make them drop out. Obama doesn't have that kind of power with people. He's just a president. Now, the outrage over this is insane, misplaced, and irrational. Obama is not trying to brainwash children. There is no need to rebut what he says, because there will be nothing to rebut. If I had kids, I'd keep them in school, because I'm not afraid of what Obama has to say, and it's not like this is going to somehow change their entire attitude on school, life, or politics.
• United States
6 Sep 09
Like I have said before, I don't have a problem with what he is doing at all. I think it's a great thing. And maybe I was misguided when I said "help them stay in school", but it's the demographic that he is talking to that bothers me.
@marctiu (830)
• Philippines
5 Sep 09
No I would not pull my student out from school. Education is more important than the address of Obama.
@ParaTed2k (22971)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
5 Sep 09
But if the day is spent doing nothing but listening to Obama and making goals on supporting him better, how are they being educated? Btw, I wouldn't take my kids out of school either, I would encourage them to listen closely and make their goals according to their own conscience, not necessarily to support him.
• United States
5 Sep 09
I think some parent think that he is going to influence their child politically, and I think that may scare some parents. I personally think that they are over reacting. He is simply going to encourage kids to stay in school, do the right things and listen to their parents, but some parents over react about the wrong things. Whether good or bad you can't shield your kids forever,; as a parent you simply gotta inform your children and guide them, the president addressing kids about staying in school is ridiculous i think that sends a wrong message to the child, but to each their own.
@ParaTed2k (22971)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
5 Sep 09
Then why does the follow on assignments encourage kids to support Obama, and has the teachers monitor their progress in goals to support him?
• United States
5 Sep 09
No, I want my children to have their education no matter what. I want them to learn as much as humanly possible and I want them to make their own decisions. I think that the people pulling their children out of school for this are nuts. All people need to be educated, and without education what kind of society are we going to have? Education is so important, especially nowadays. If you do not like what your children are learning in the public school system, then put them in a private school or a religious school. Put them in a school that will teach them what you want them to be taught.
• United States
5 Sep 09
I completely and 100% agree with you. Your kid is going to learn one way or another. Being in school in an appropriate environment is the best thing for them, where they can learn, and discuss with their teacher. The only thing that irritates me a little bit is the age range that they are showing it too, instead of middle school kids, and elementary kids, why not high school kids. Little kids are easily sway and can't fully form their own ideas, and they are very vulnerable.
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• United States
8 Sep 09
My thought is that if people take their kids out so that they DON'T watch it, they are not teaching their children to make up their own minds (which is the reason many are giving - I want my kids to think for themselves, not be indoctrinated by Obama' etc) No, what you are teaching them is that they have to agree with you. Good for your Mom, for getting you to watch it but in an environment where you have the chance to make up your own mind, and discuss it with her later or whatever. The hysteria over this, having read the speech and lesson plan, is mind boggling ridiculous.
@sid556 (30987)
• United States
8 Sep 09
No, My daughter is 15 and there is no way that she is missing a day of school over this. Our school has alternative lesson plans for those who opt out of watching the speech. I'm leaving the choice to her and she chooses to watch it. It won't be shown on tues. Instead the teachers are recording it and viewing it for themselves first and then deciding if it has educational value. I really don't agree with the day off from school if you don't want to watch it.
@ladyhope (377)
• Canada
5 Sep 09
I don't live in the US, but I'm your neighbor up in canada and have been following this closely. I think that Obama is THE president of the USA, therefore his address should be shown to everyone. I woudn't pull my kids out of a class if it were a Bush address. (I use bush because I didn't like him too much...) As parents, you should allow your child to watch, because you want them to be educated in everything, not just what you support. If you don't agree with the president or his ideas, then you should discuss with your children afterwards.
@N4life (851)
• United States
5 Sep 09
If we are not allowing Presidents to speak to our kids now then how can we allow recruiters in the schools? How can we allow T.V.'s blasting commercials from filthy companies like Pepsico? How can we have T.V. in schools at all. This is absoulutely ridiculous, this is fascism when we can have corporations speak to our kids at school but not the president. Thanks to all you chicken littles for saving us from the evil...but you are misguided at best.