Is The Justice System In Your Country Fair?

@wolfie34 (26771)
United Kingdom
September 9, 2009 11:49am CST
The Penal System in my country The UK I am sure has a motto "Punish The Victim and Send the Criminals on Holiday" It may sound ludicrously funny, but sadly it's the truth! Victims have no rights whereas the guilty who in theory should lose their rights if they break the law are protected and looked after It's a crazy Justice system, the punishments are far too lenient, ergo the deterrants are not there to stop people commiting heinous crimes. Even if criminals are caught and sent to prison they are given a very small sentence and that is automatically halved. So where is the punishment? The prisons are holiday camps, you get free food, free roof over your head, no bills, no rent, everything is provided for you, games room, television, gym, you name it! and the prisoners still have the audacity to moan! So people just stick their fingers up at the law because their lawyers can get them off on a technicality or the poor victim is made to look the guilty one by over zealous defence lawyers, it's crazy, it a total mockery! Is it any wonder why the UK is getting a bad reputation, is seen as weak and a soft touch? The punishment should fit the crime, but no. We waste millions of tax payers money looking after them and even giving child abusers a new ID? How sick and crazy is that? So is your justice system in your country fair? Or is like England where we persecute the innocent and reward the guilty?
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@suzzy3 (8342)
12 Sep 09
wolfie how right you are.It starts from the very begining someone I know her daughter is real trouble and has always got into trouble.So in the end her mother put her into temporary care ,where she got everything she wanted,new clothes ,pocket money,new games,new cds,trips out.Meanwhile her hard pressed mother was left with three younger children living on benefit.They are also very well behaved children who respect their mother,as does my son and many other good children.They were all amazed to see what their sister came home with at the end of the tempory care.It is a wonder all the children don't give the neibourhood hell because look what you can get if you are naughty ,whats the point of being good.You are so right ,I don't think other countries beleave us when we tell them,but we know don't we.!
@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
12 Sep 09
Hi Suzzy sadly we do. I try not to read the papers any more I get so mad and angry, it's a disgrace, what message is sending this out to everyone? Break the law and you will get rewarded.
@suzzy3 (8342)
12 Sep 09
Fortunately for me my kids have all chosen the way to live that is honest and fair.It is the disgrace they could not stand,and the fact I would personally skin them alive if they started to get into serious trouble.To be honest I don't watch the news much either these days.I have a better day that way.
@kellyjeanne (1576)
• United States
11 Sep 09
I'm from the U.S. and I have to agree totally with you. We have the same problems over here. I think the justice system is a mockery. I've always felt that it's never about who's right or wrong, but, about who has the most money to afford the best defense! I like what you said in your first sentence, "Punish The Victim and Send the Criminals on Holiday" It's true in this country too. I remember one time years ago at some prison the prisoners of one penitentiary they went on strike (or a riot) because they didn't have cable T.V.!!! Prison really has become a vacation for them. No wonder many of them, when they get out commit crimes again so they can get back into prison! On top of that it seems that for every year they serve a year is taken off their sentence, so, most only serve HALF their sentences! I've always had the idea that the rest of the world was laughing at the U.S.! It's important to remember, though, that if you go to any country they will have their own complaints about their own government. If people only knew what secrets that the government and military are keeping from it's people I really believe there would be a nationwide riot or strike. I truly believe this. It makes me very sick just knowing all that they are keeping from us. The average citizen has become slaves, in a sense, to their government and I can see it getting worse in my country as I'm sure you can see it getting worse in yours. Purrs, Catwoman=^..^= & Mija
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@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
12 Sep 09
Sad to say I can see it getting worse much worse as society falls apart and gets worst, what messages are we sending out to the new generation, to break the law is to be rewarded?
@Humbug25 (12540)
9 Sep 09
Hi wolfie34 Grrrrrr don't get me started!!!
@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
9 Sep 09
I hear you my friend, I hear you, plenty of room on my soap box ;0)
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@Humbug25 (12540)
9 Sep 09
Ok well it's like the James Bolger thing. Those boys who killed that poor todler have now got a life I can only dream of for my kids. They have had a private education in prison or youth hostel, whatever you wanna call it. They were given a new ID, a house each and a job to walk into. All they gave up was a few childhood years. You are only a child for 18 years of your life so they only lost, what 8 of those and what has the Boldger family lost? They lost their boy for life.
• India
9 Sep 09
In India, the justice system is more or less very mixed. there has been excellent judgements where criminals were punished, often very high profile ones. but there are times due to political interferences, the case gets dragged and finally it is dropped.
• United States
15 Sep 09
Wolfie...this is a subject that I am very passionate about! And I don't think there is enough space for me to defend the guilty, as I sometimes do. Not in the sense that they shouldn't be punished, or that I condone what they do...I certainly don't think they should be allowed freedom without punishment. However, we don't know what is actually in the minds and hearts of those quilty to make them do the things they did. And until I know "why", I have often taken my motto to heart "do not judge"....because we really don't know. Secondly, while the guilty are in prison, I would always hope that the desire of the prison system is to help them change their ways, and better themselves to enter back in to the real world. If we don't make an attempt to help them, then they have learned no other way, therefore crime may be recommitted when they leave. If my tax dollars are going to pay for their stay, I would want my money spent in an effective way - by helping them become a better person. If that means, counciling, education,exercise, food, proper treatment, then I am for it. I don't believe that putting someone in a 2 by 4 cell, isolating them, treating them like animals, is going to change anyone, and it could make them mentally and physically worse. That would be like putting a bandaid on a wound that doesn't cure the infection. I am sure that life behind bars, with other prisoners who may have committed a more serious crime than some one else, is not an easy one, either. We don't know what some of these people have endured in their childhood, what life they were given prior to committing a crime. Often it is the weak that make grave mistakes, when they originally had no intent to do so. It doesn't take much to cross the line from sane to insanity...it may take just a a few seconds to snap. I want my tax dollars to just pay for them to wilt away...I want them to have learning experience while they are there. However, that is not to say, that I believe in releasing them without getting this help. I believe they should be remain there to get the help they need, be taught what they did wrong, and taught a new way of life at the same time. Is my way of thinking right? I am sure the majority of the world opposes my way of thinking...and that is okay. I guess I choose to look at both sides of the guilty rather than the one way that society often looks at.
@jb78000 (15139)
9 Sep 09
i think this is a bit of an exaggeration - i won't say the system here is perfect (far from it) but i've been the victim of crime and i have seen first hand where the sympathy lies - and it's not with the criminals. also i don't think you can describe prison as a holiday camp - it might not be little dungeons but i don't think i'd like to spend time in there.
@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
9 Sep 09
Unless you are rich and can buy your way out of course ;0) Wolfie thinks he better step off his soapbox now before he gets carried away.
@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
14 Sep 09
Sadly, ours seems to me to be much the same as yours. It is said that they have no freedom and that is their punishment but ...he-llo? Many a victim also looses their freedom as a result of crimes against them but they don 't get a free ride. Being in gaol may not be a picnic but that's only because of the people there...we are talking scum. And don't get me started on those guys that get a slap on the wrist due to a dui charge for the harm they do when there is a car accident and some poor person critically injured.
@hotsummer (13835)
• Philippines
10 Sep 09
yeah our judiciary system is not fair. though some cases are handled fairly but those fall under those that got lucky to be given fair trial . but most of the cases here, the guilty were not punished for what they deserved to receive or just plainly found innocent for which they were obviously guilty of. it is really infuriating to see these happen for so long until now. and things do not seem to have improved over the years. the victims need to protect themselves from being victimized again while the offenders are without fear and as bold as they would want to and it makes look the victim like they were the offenders cause they are afraid of the judgment system.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
12 Sep 09
Hi wolfie, I actually don't know much about the justice system here in Greece so maybe I should look into it. Funnily enough I did put up a discussion earlier today about the infamous 'UK plane spotters' and was reading round a bit and found them complaining about the state of the prisons here as not being very good. Well that's because they are prisons. I do know that the majority of prisoners in Greece percentage wise are not Greeks but Albanians as they bring crime into the country.
• India
10 Sep 09
The justice system in our country is very slow.till then the victim loses his effort and criminal gets improved in that time.it is very much like the system of england,like "punish the victim and send the criminals on holiday.if the criminal is powerful and the victim is poor and helpless,the situation get worsened.the victim never gets the justice in other words in our country criminals are flourishing from back side by powerful people.