More shamefull behavior from congress.

Funny thing it is easy for an innocent person to be found guilty of disorderly conduct, but the guilty always seem to roam free? Is it because they is the government?

Ok I have to make a confession. I MAYBE slightly to blame for what happened with Wilson. Yep little old me and some other ticked off south carolinians. I live in South Carolina and Rep. Wilson represents me. Well I have had some dealings with him during the course of my political activities. I have had some issues with him not wanting to co-sign or sponsor bills unless he KNEW it would pass. He never picked a side on a bill til he KNEW for sure which way the wind was blowing.Because no matter what he wanted to be on the "winning" side, that or he just stayed out of it completely. Well me and my group have wanted him to co sign some bills (including HR 1207)He was always wishy washy about it. It took A LOT of us badger him constantly to even get him to consider HR1207 and then even more badgering to get him to finally co-sign it. We actually had to do a petition. Yep we went out to public places within our state with a legal petition, collected TONS of signatures and then HAND delivered it to his offices here in South Carolina. It was a no brainer for him to co sign that bill. But that is normally how it is with Wilson. It is like pulling teeth to get him to think for himself. So when I had the opportunity to meet him....not long ago. I kinda had a "pep talk" with him. I explained my frustration with him and his inability to "make a stand" on a issue (any issue). I also told him to stop being a "Sheep". Stop following party lines, stop caring about always being on the "winning" side. Start representing the people who elected him.THe rest of it went along the lines of "south carolina needs representattives who will be warriors for the people of this state. Stand up and do what is right and not just follow the crowd. We need someone with the courage to lead instead of following"...yada yada yada. I also made a statement about if he could not "lead" than maybe the conservatives needed to run someone against him in his re-election that is coming up because this was too important a time with a lot going in to have a representative in the state of South Carolina that just "went with the flow". We need a real voice in what is going on. yada yada yada.... He did not get mad. He listened. Thanked me (dimissively). And then said he would glad to hear from me again in the future on any bill or issue. Gave me his card with his office contact stuff on it (secratry information, email address, mailing address ect). Like I did not already have that information. I have been in contact with his office and my other state and federal elected official's offices A LOT in the past couple of years. I assumed at the time that he had just listened...dismissed it and went on with his day. That was the impression I got at the time. Now I wonder. Did he do it so that he could say "hey...see I am brave. I am standing up...or see I can be a leader"? It really is against his personally type to have done what he did. He has NO BACKBONE. A lot of people have been complaining to him about his inability to "lead". So if I am in any way the cause of this I am sorry. It was my intention that he start being more assertive...not be an rude jerk. He needed a fire light under his butt...he truely did. But I did not intent for him to be go about it this way. I intented for him to actually start getting ivolved with his job and do it the right way. I guess I should have spelled it out more clearly when I talked him. I guess this is a case of getting it right the first time. Because I don't think I will get another face to face meeting with him like that again. He mainly just wants to meet with people who just praise him and tell him how wonderful he is.

ROFL! Lil, he picked a hell of a time to start listening didn't he?

I'm not sorry that we woke you up...

Good, keep paying attention. You SHOULD be dispointed....you should be OUTRAGED. I have been watching the news on this guy and I see his potential oponent for next year has recieved over a million in donations since the incident. The problem is people are making the EXACT SAME MISTAKE AGAIN, they are going to elect a DEMOCRAT instead and they will somehow expect thngs to change....WTF do people NOT pay attention? Why send ANOTHER establishment party member to congress, isn't this what got us in to this mess in the first place? We elect the same two parties year after yerar, election after election and expect things to change....come on people, your just going to trade one bunch of corrupt idiots for another bunch of corrupt idiots AGAIN.

You ever actually get to speak to someone other than a staffer? Well now my opinion on Joe is changing... It forced a lot of truth checking on Obama's speech and now the Democrats are taking it way too far and making bigger fools out of themselves. I'm starting to think maybe we need more fire from the Republicans. Not in an ugly way but something... the Democrats are shouting over the American people dividing the country even more. Obama's speech was so ugly attacking Republicans in whole, Calling the peoples' debate bickering. It's really disgusting because a president is suppose to bring us all together as Americans and I don't recall ever in my life there being such a divide based on political parties and the political opinions of average American citizens. Obama's approval ratings are showing how extreme the divide is... how the country is torn in half. I really don't know anymore. If that man had not lost his self control and said what he did and waited until after would he really have been heard? Would there be as many people now checking up on fact and fiction? I couldn't call again on the 11th because I was so angry about Obama's treatment of 9/11 trying to change it's meaning, First National day of Service my you know what. Honestly I'm so stressed out over what's going on I want to crawl into bed and stay there. This is insane...

I try not to take my anger out on staff members, unless of course they are acting ignorant too. I do however have no hesiation in speaking angrily to comgressesional and state represenatives. I just wouldn't do it durring a formal adress such as a joint session of congress.

I heard about it on NPR this morning... Sheeze I almost feel married to that broadcast station...

No, no crime committed, rude behavior isn't illegal, it's just rude behavior. I should have put a video link to the act in question, but it was simply him yelling out "you lie" in the middle of the president's address.

good to see he aplogized. Wether he agrees with what the president has to say or not. He should not have screamed out "you lie" during the middle of the speech. Hopefully he has learned his lesson. It was immature and unprofessional. If he thought the president had "misspoken" or told us something is that not true he could have had press conference or had it included in the republican speech that was given after the presidents. I will have to say it was slightly assuming to see Pelosi's face when it happened. I thought her head was going to pop off. (I know, I know....bad lilwonders). On a personal note....I am sorry about your mother in law. My thoughts are with you and your family.

I first want to offer my condolences to you and your family annie. I am not going to pretend to have any pearls of wisdom or that I have anything clever to say, but you and your family are in my thoughts. I don't know what came over this guy (though lil' is claiming personal responsability for it...lol) and ordinarily, I expect congressional reps to have a back bone and to be individual thinkers. He just picked a hell of a way and a hell of a time to exercise that.

I am NOT personally responsible.....I just may have been a contributing factor. Don't lay this one on me compeltely. I did not MAKE him open his mouth and call the president a liar on live TV during his speech. I just called Wilson out on his wishy washy ways and his inability to do his job. A lot of people have been doing that lately. I just had the guts to do it to his face.

For me, it wasn't so much the "what", it was the "when and where". Of ALL times and places.....lol. I would ordinarily applaude a good forcefull oposition, but I wouldn't stand up in the middle of a formal gathering and do it....this wasn't a town meeting for cripe sakes.

Yeah but, we've all gotten mad at the wrong place and wrong time. I can remember several formal holiday gathering where I have told a certain family member to go f themself. So it could have been much worse, although I was surprised that he wasn't removed from the event.

I am waiting for things to start devolving to the level of Taiwanese parlimentary behavior (though it would be entertaining to turn on C-span and watch Pelosi and McConnel throwing puncjes at each other. I'm not even oposed to spirited debate, but this was in the middle of an adress to a joint session of congress by the president.

well the fact that this has received so much publicity (international as well if you're interested) and he apologised does seem to suggest that it's still considered unacceptable behaviour. which sadly means the sight of them throwing rotton fruit and things at each other may be a little way off.