Are we deluding ourselves, or are we just desperate?

@malamar (784)
Canada
September 18, 2009 1:45pm CST
Times are tough and jobs are in short supply. Many people turn to online opportnities to make much needed extra money. I have tried to stay neutral as I have watched a friend go from site to site in her attempts to bring cash into her pocket. But, really, I haven't seen anything even remotely come close to putting food on the table - just a couple of bucks here and there. On one site she does make better money, but not in relation to the hours she spends on the computer. Seriously, she could make more money mowing a neighbours lawn than she does all day writing articles. If we pursue these ventures as a hobby or a distraction, that is another issue altogether, we are doing it for fun. Have you ever kept track of the hours you are "working" in relation to the "pay" you are receiving? This is not a criticism about anyone trying to make money. I would just really like to hear your opinions on this.
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@jazzsue58 (2668)
18 Sep 09
I dread to think what my working hours are! But through starting off on sites like this I was able to prove my worth with more lucrative projects. Result is, I've got a full time job earning a decent wage writing. A lot of the time I don't get paid, because I'm researching the articles. But once I have the facts to hand, I can rattle off 6 in an hour - around £30 (a touch under $50) Not bad for doing something I enjoy!!!
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@malamar (784)
• Canada
18 Sep 09
Good job jazzsue and way to go! I am happy for you. I just think that too many people are not going to have the luck and the obvious skill that you have. Not to diminish your success in anyway, I truly admire your accomplishment. However, for every success story like yours, how many hundreds (or thousands) are desperately seeking income through means that aren't going to end up as well as your did?
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@malamar (784)
• Canada
18 Sep 09
Jazzsue - My point exactly!! Thanks for picking up on it. By the way, congrats on making it!
@PeacefulWmn9 (10424)
• United States
18 Sep 09
Hi Malamar. I see and hear what you've said, often! My opinion is that if you need a bit of money for extras or to suppliment an already semi-decent income, and...if you enjoy it, then by all means, turn to sites such as this on the internet. But...do not hope to get rich, and especially not to get rich quickly. Also, don't quit your regular job. There ARE some people who make seriously great money online, and it is their career, but they are usually greatly talented and have a product (e-books, etc.) of their own to sell. These people, of course, are few and far between. Karen
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@jazzsue58 (2668)
18 Sep 09
Then, you drop the pretence and admit you're, e.g. an IT professional, or a journalist. Calling it "work from home" or "data entry" instantly marks you down in your own mind. The first thing I did to turn this into a career ( though this is just tea break stuff!) was to say "Me? I'm an internet journalist," when someone asked what I did for a living. Not blogger. Not even writer. Keep it professional. I may post a task soon for researchers - various holiday destinations. No writing involved - I do that - just search and copy work. But anyone doing it would be my research staff - and get paid accordingly.
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• United States
21 Sep 09
Jazz...I hear that! The reason I call myself a "writer" as opposed to an internet journalist, etc., is because of the creative pieces I've had published and for which I've been paid offline through the years...as well as writing online these days. :)) Malamar...you're concern for your friend has merit, to be sure. Perhaps the light will dawn soon? I hope the best for this friend. Karen
@satan88 (586)
• United States Minor Outlying Islands
19 Sep 09
i think we are desperate and deluding our selves. Money can be made online but not quick and you probably won't get rich it takes time and hours of dedication and good planning and also a hell of alot of luck
@malamar (784)
• Canada
28 Sep 09
For those who want pocket change, extra spending money, and a socializing opportunities, online is a great place to be. There are the exceptions, I guess, who do make real money, but my post was directed more to those desperate people who are really trying (and needing) to make money.
@LittleMel (14036)
• Canada
19 Sep 09
I never earn money online enough to pay bills so I won't advise people to waste their time online maybe IT people or computer geeks know how but everyone else wouldn't we also have to be careful about some sites they might send virus or tracker that will end up costing us money instead
@malamar (784)
• Canada
23 Sep 09
I can't say I have never made money online, bucause I have made a little bit. If my friend (the one that has me worried) was making any money at all, perhaps I wouldn't be so concerned about her.
• United States
19 Sep 09
Personally, i use sites like this only for the pleasure of doing it...not to actually try to make money to make a living off of. I don't count on any of this money for my living expenses etc. I am lucky enough to have a full time job (40 hours per week) and am able to keep myself in a home, clothed nd with food to eat because of it (though sometimes barely it seems!) Whatever mony i earn online is just a bonus. I am not ativly trying to make a certain amount, i just enjoy doing it. Surveys, posting here, whatever. I guess i just don't have much of a life outside of work and spend so much time on the computer, and have been lucky enough to come across some sites where i get to do things that i enjoy, and have a good time doing...and they just might happen to have some monetary benefits. I feel bad for many people out there who have lost jobs or cannot find work, and i understand that every little bit helps, so that extra twenty bucks a month you bring in from online might get put to good use...but with the amount of time spent to make a mere $20 bucks? it it WORTH it? probably not...$20 wouldn't even pay Internet service for the month. I guss i just hope that people out there who are spending hours a day trying to make money online as they don't have much of any other income coming in are spending at least the same amount of time trying to find a job...because most people aren't going to be able to make a living off the meager earnings from these sites.
@malamar (784)
• Canada
19 Sep 09
Fruitcakeliz, that is exactly what I was trying to say. You just said it much clearer than I did! Thank you.
@TheAdvocate (2393)
• Philippines
18 Sep 09
You may be making a conclusion based on the experience of one person who seems to be a newbie in this thing. My brother has been making serious money off the internet for years now and so I know anyone can. I also have made a few bucks here and there even if I am just new to online writing. I am still discovering how best to earn here, and forums like this help me learn which sites are scam and which are not. I have not yet reached that point where I am dependent on this income, but my online writing has supplemented my salary just fine.
@malamar (784)
• Canada
18 Sep 09
I am so sorry that I perhaps am being misunderstood here. I am not knocking this site at all. Quite the opposite in fact. Even in the short time I have been here, I can see the advantages of spending time here. I belong to an site where I write longer articles, and make good money for my time investments. I want more people to be honest and upfront when they run into scam sites. They can save people time and grief by doing so. The sites that are above board, like this one, are great supplemental income, there is not a doubt in my mind about that. My warning is to those who participate hours on day on sites that give back a couple pennies here and there. I just do not think it is fair that they are being mislead.
@Citychic (4071)
• United States
18 Sep 09
Hello Malamar, My opinion is don't that you shouldn't knock it until you've tried it. I've been trying it out myself and I'm starting to come to the conclusion that writing can be a very lucrative market if you are dealing with the right companies. Your friend may be looking at it as a challenge just as I was because writing can always challenge us to get better. So while it might be looked upon as a time consuming task, you have to remember that it may not always be about the money. I say give your friend room to spread her wings and fly and if she comes to you asking for help, then you should take her under your wing and show her a better way. I think that far too many people are here online, thinking that they have all the answers when they really don't. Sometimes we need to just step back and realize that if we are doing the same things over and over, we'll never get anything accept for the same results, at some point you have to be willing to try something different. I don't know if you've happened to notice this or not but mylot too is just a writing site. Yeah we all are supposed to be here socializing but then we need to ask ourselves, how is all of this socializing taking place if not through our writing? Hope you get the point. If you'd like to discuss a few different options for yourself why don't you go ahead and add me as a friend and pm me. Thanks for taking the time to read my comment, hope you have a great day!
@malamar (784)
• Canada
18 Sep 09
I do get your point Citychic, and whats more, I even agree with you. I am certainly not knocking this site or any other one. I make a fair bit of cash with my writing and I am very greatful for it. The point I was trying to make, is that there are some sites online that promise the world and deliver nothing (not this one certainly). I am afraid that some people get desperate enough to buy into the get rich scams that do not and cannot deliver. My friend has my full support and she knows it. I only threw this discussion out to get the feedback that I am getting, like yours. I have a fulltime job, but I still love the chance to socialize, learn, grow and earn that this site provides. I will send you a friends request; I think we have more in common than meets the eye. Regards, and best wishes always, M.
@BStuff (498)
• United States
18 Sep 09
I know where your coming from on this and the other day I did have to just stop because this site in perticular can be very addictive. I actually did mow my fathers lawn this weekend and made good money doing so. (my dad knows Im a poor college student) but I say sometimes any little bit helps. 10 or 20 bucks a month is like my entire months gas money (I live really close to everything so I never drive far) I do however wish I had a real job outside of this place. I like doing this and plan to continue using this site as fun and to make a little extra cash but I also need a real job. Wish me luck on actually finding one though.
@malamar (784)
• Canada
18 Sep 09
I do wish you luck BStuff, I wish you lots and lots of luck. I remember the starving students days, and believe me, there wasn't very much I wasn't willing to do to make a few extra bucks. That being said, this site (and others like it) provide you with some really great conversations/debates/discussions. The added money is truly a bonus, one we are hopefully grateful for.
@jazzsue58 (2668)
18 Sep 09
I'm assuming by writing you mean Helium, Getafreelancer etc? I did a few GAF projects - but most don't pay enough. I did get a few good clients out of it though, and they pay me direct now. Helium etc I don't bother with. It's not how a real writer works! I prefer constant content - you write then place it on spec for approval. It's as hit-and-miss as freelancing for hard copy magazines, but pays well. My agency work pays less, but is guaranteed work as I get paid per contract. I don't bid - I get offered work that I can accept or turn down.