More indoctrination of our kids..... Shame on New Jersey!!

@mommyboo (13197)
United States
September 25, 2009 9:35pm CST
Breaking news info about a video on youtube showing young kids - they look like ELEMENTARY SCHOOL singing some song praising Obama!! Really now, shame on the school. Shame on the district! I posted a discussion before about indoctrination in regards to the SPEECH he was making to schools. This is even worse. It was stated that this was a PUBLIC school in New Jersey. No information has been released so far about who WROTE this ridiculous song, but keep in mind one thing - these kids have NO idea what they were even doing. I doubt the kids knew they'd be recorded and posted up on youtube or on the news either. If I were one of the parents, I'd be suing several people! How do you feel about this? Isn't this another one of those slippery slope things? I don't like to see CHILDREN used for political or other ADULT agendas. I think this is wrong and the people who are responsible ought to face severe consequences.
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• United States
27 Sep 09
First of all, the stop our children from mentioning Jesus or even God bless you or prayers in school, but they let some a**hole teacher who is a strong democrat to force feed our children with their beliefs. This is why I am anti-government, and a great many are saying the same thing. They are destroying the individual thought process of young children, and being turned in to Dictator mind controlled zombies, and if we let this go any further, we will have all our children brainwashed by government. This includes what they are doing right now, and people are being shut up because they are against the gay rights laws that force children to believe that being queer is normal. We were not gay before we came into being, we were born with two distinct genitals for boys and girls, and if a**es were meant to be used for screwing, god would have put a reproductive system in there instead. Why do you think AIDS was created? It was put there to stop these acts of sin against nature. This teacher even worked with the Democrat party to get Obama in office personally, and should be sued, along with the school board.
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@mommyboo (13197)
• United States
27 Sep 09
See, I don't believe in either one. Religious agenda does not belong in PUBLIC school. Political agenda doesn't either. I don't give a rip what the ADULT believes or supports. All they are supposed to teach in school are the state educational standards. Those include for kindergarten things like letters and sounds, short commonly used words, colors, numbers, shapes, animals, members of family, etc etc. This isn't to say that the adult cannot believe or feel however they wish, they CAN, but they SHOULD NOT be allowed to express that to children in their classrooms. I have to respectfully disagree with you about the whole gay or anti-gay thing though. I don't see anything wrong with explaining to kids that people live different lifestyles. I do not want to see anybody bullied, victimized, or made fun of because they are 'different' or live different lifestyles, or their parents or guardians live different lifestyles. It's not MY business nor it is ANYBODY'S business how any other person BESIDES YOU decides to live. Are you talking about the classroom teacher or the principal? Apparently the principal of this New Jersey school was also in Obama's back pocket, she even said she'd do it again if given a chance. Obviously they did not let the parents know anything ahead of time OR give anybody a chance to keep their children home. I would be literally SICK SICK SICK, physically SICK if I EVER heard my daughter saying or singing something like that. I'd want to beat someone or someones with a baseball bat until they were at least unconscious.
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• United States
26 Sep 09
What is just as disturbing as the fact that these kids were forced to memorize some teacher's political agenda is the fact that the song is actually a song praising JESUS CHRIST but the name of Jesus has been replaced with "Barack Hussein Obama". You can't pray in school, you can't even say "merry Christmas" but now they are replacing the name of CHRIST with Obama and using RELIGIOUS SONGS to praise Obama! My children will not worship ANY human being, certainly not the one who is actively seeking to destroy the America we all grew up i and replace it with something that has been "fundamentally changed" into some Marxist nightmare! My kid starts school next year, I will not allow her to go to public school unless I am able to see EXACTLY what they will be teaching her. Political ideology has NO PLACE in a classroom of very young children.
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@mommyboo (13197)
• United States
27 Sep 09
Oh I agree, M. I did a lot of researching of my daughter's school before it started and then I have spent a lot of time there, and will continue to. I am very pleased to find that the majority of the teachers are excellent and credentialed and they also follow directions given by parents - for instance if you did not want your child hearing political speeches or perhaps not to attend a party, they comply. Now I would never remove my daughter from a party, but I definitely intended to remove her from class if they played any political speech or did any politically related 'assignment'. Her teacher planned and executed a NORMAL day, the kids went to snack and recess at normal time and they learned a letter and color for the day and that was that. I am completely for education standards ONLY in public schools which means NO politics and NO religion. I don't necessarily feel 'merry christmas' has anything to do with religion but singing songs about Jesus Christ could be lol. I don't believe in worship of ANY human being either, and I also don't believe in worshipping religious figures or icons in a PUBLIC SCHOOL. If people want that, there are multiple private schools where people PAY for that privelage. My suggestion is to go to the school and talk to the administrative staff. See if you can find out who the K teacher(s) will be and if you can speak with them, find out the school's policy and leanings toward or against the whole idea of politics. Either way, you DO ALWAYS have the right to write a note and excuse your child. You have the right to look at the curriculum and a timeline of what will be taught and the state standards that mirror the teaching tools. I don't think you'll have a problem, my long distance 'view' of you is that you are very direct and firm and clear, and that most people would not attempt to cross you because they realize they won't like it much if they do.
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@dmrone (750)
• United States
26 Sep 09
Hi, mommyboo! I have to agree with you on this matter. It is wrong. Children should not be used in this manner. The children do not know what they are doing. They are following the instructions of an adult. The parents should look into getting this teacher or teachers fired. Political or adult agendas should be left to the Adults, and not an adult trying to push their agenda on a child or children. I think children should be taught who the president is and then leave it at that. I feel the people responsible should be fired, and have to pay hefty fines.
@mommyboo (13197)
• United States
27 Sep 09
This is one of the reasons why I want my daughter to be able to make choices for herself, NOT purely to just listen and follow directions from other adults BECAUSE they are adults. I have written multiple discussions or answered discussions on this subject - which is more or less a matter of respect. You can respect someone without necessarily doing what they say you should or have to if your feelings differ. For instance, nobody is going to use me as a sign waver for something I am not in support of, I have every right to NOT do it even if say... Obama said I had to lol. Anyway, too many people have said that it's not right for a child to NOT follow directions - if it goes against something they or their parents believe, or they don't understand but it feels 'fishy' to them, they should NOT have to be involved and NEVER suffer consequences as a result. My daughter does not know anything about Obama. I don't think she needs to, it is NOT important to our daily life and politics does not belong in the classroom of a 5 year old. Honestly, those adults responsible for this BS need to be whipped or something...
@bdugas (3580)
• United States
26 Sep 09
i haven't seen this but my friend was telling me about it, any teacher that would make kids praise someone that they don't even know, should be fired. I feel it alright to let children know who our president is, but when you go to changing words in a song, to praise him, that is another thing. Is that what schools are going to do brain wash the kids to praise a person they have no idea of who or why.
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@mommyboo (13197)
• United States
26 Sep 09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WLIBnWY1Ts There's the youtube link to parts of the video, along with some interviews with some of the parents. I think the principal ought to be fired, the TEACHER ought to be fired, and the school should suffer some type of monetary penalty for this mess. I am SO lucky that this school is in NEW JERSEY and not here, if I were EVER to find out that one of my kids' schools did ANYTHING like this.... I'd find a way to destroy them. I believe that anything questionable needs to be addressed ahead of time so that parents AND kids can have an opportunity to opt out. I don't believe anything of this nature should ever go on in elementary schools, in middle schools and junior highs, the KIDS should have a heads up and be allowed to opt out or not be present WITHOUT penalty. Political agenda is wrong and disgusting, and it is an adult evil that kids do not need to be exposed to, even in limited ways. Those poor kids! I would be sooo angry, angry enough to probably do some things I might regret in the morning. No kidding.
@anna728 (1499)
• United States
26 Sep 09
I don't really think it's a big deal. If this were happening before he was elected, I would agree that it wasn't ok. But he IS our president, regardless of your politics. A lot of people on both sides will say that you should support your president, because he is your president, even if you didn't vote for him. I don't know the content of the song, since I didn't see it, but I would guess that this situation sounds more like it's like that than that they are "indoctrating" the kids.
• United States
26 Sep 09
Would you think it was no big deal if little schoolchildren had been forced to memorize and sing a song praising George W. Bush while he was in office?
@mommyboo (13197)
• United States
27 Sep 09
Here is a link to the video since you obviously did not see it.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WLIBnWY1Ts Do you have children? It seems to me perhaps you do not have children, you are a big Obama supporter because gee, after all, he is our president, even though our choices were between horrible and whatever shows up in the gutter after a storm... or both. Why am I expected to support someone of whom I have no trust in because clearly he is doing a rotten job restoring the economy, a rotten job LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE and doing ANYTHING the people want THE WAY THE PEOPLE WANT? Have you forgotten that the government is elected in order to be the governing body who takes WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT and puts it into practice for us? I cannot think of ONE single example of anything this administration, or really the past administration has done at all according to what we the people wanted. Nope, it has all been personal political agenda and the biggest waste of taxpayer dollars on bs that only hurts us. It's like the government believes WE are working for THEM and not the other way around, which is how this country was founded. Sorry but I'm not interested in supporting, standing up for, or even acknowledging somebody who is no better than me but happens to be in a position he doesn't deserve anyway. I would be a hypocrite for touching THAT and I don't want to be a hypocrite. The point of this is that ADULTS do not have any right to bring politics into the classrooms of SMALL CHILDREN who basically have no idea what they are saying/singing/writing etc. It's like someone teaching a 2 year old to say $h1t... the kid doesn't realize they said a cuss word and they don't know what other people think if they hear them say it. Pure and simple, it is using and abusing of children to further some adult's political agenda. Adults are free to love, worship, support, and praise ANYBODY or ANYTHING they want, but to influence or indoctrinate CHILDREN? NO WAY. Especially NOT without parental heads up and consent PRIOR TO!!
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@Opal26 (17684)
• United States
26 Sep 09
Hey mommyboo! As usual, I am with you on this one! I don't think that this proper either! I don't feel that it is correct to use children who have no idea what they are saying to send forth a message that an adult put out, especially when it has political undertones! I feel the same way that you do that this is not something that is acceptible without the consent of the parents! If this was my child involved I would be really angry too if I wasn't consulted about this in advance or asked if it was ok of with me! It doesn't matter who it is about, just the fact that it is a political issue that a child shouldn't be involved in. It doesn't matter that it is the President or not it is the point that parents should have a say in what their children are involved in!
@mommyboo (13197)
• United States
26 Sep 09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WLIBnWY1Ts Here is a youtube link so you can see it if you haven't! I have huge issues with political agendas. That is FINE for adults who are into that but I disagree entirely that it should ever be dumped on KIDS. If we are going to have separation of church and state and NOT include religion in public schools (which I wholly support and agree with) I think we also need to make some sort of proposition that we do not include POLITICS or POLITICAL AGENDA in schools - at least ELEMENTARY schools! I don't CARE how the principal and the teachers feel! They don't have the right to teach or influence the kids in any way other than the state standards of EDUCATION, which does not include anything about OBAMA. Please. When I watch that video, it makes me physically ill, like I want to throw up. There are people who say 'oh, don't compare this to hitler or worshipping dictators in China' but you know what? THAT VIDEO LOOKS LIKE IT WAS SOMETHING FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY. NOT AMERICA. Disturbing? Hell yeah.