Pay Twice. Travel Once.

@p1kef1sh (45681)
September 26, 2009 4:20am CST
Europe, especially the UK, is awash with "cheap" airlines that will take you to all sorts of places (usually to airports about 50 miles from where you want to end up) for literally one penny! "Hooray" you cry. "I'll have some of that please". But then the "extras" kick in. Taxes and fees, a charge to check in online, much more if you do it at the airport. A charge to put your luggage in the hold. A charge for anything that you eat or drink on the flight and one airline is even considering whether the use of a toilet could attract an extra charge too. That penny soon turns into tens or even hundreds of pounds. However, that's what you have to expect from rubbishy carriers. At least they are blatant about wanting to make money from you and not caring too much about your experience. Now however, BA are doing it. They have decided to start charging for you to sit on the plane. I mean you will get a seat, but if you want to sit together as a family/group, you may have to pay for it. If you want an aisle seat instead of the window seat they have booked you into, you have to pay for that. Having paid several hundred pounds for a ticket in the first place I think that it's a bit much to then start charging you again. Maybe I am in a minority. Do you resent paying extra on top of your flight ticket?
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@Humbug25 (12540)
28 Sep 09
Hi ya p1kef1sh They seem to have you over a barrel these days don't they? The thing is with these cheap flights is that you have to check you baggage in, you are not allowed to take hand luggage (well a small handbag size) so like you say they charge you the earth for it. I think it is terrible charging you extra to sit with your family though I wouldn't care too much if I had an aisle seat or window seat, I am not a huge fan of flying anyway!! Will you be going out to see your daughter soon? How is she getting on?
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
28 Sep 09
I just wonder how a family of four can travel say to Spain without checking in their luggage. Flying is something that most people do quite rarely and it ought to be easier than it is! Daughter is having a great time and working hard. We were intending to go for Christmas but the Boss has to have an operation so we'll go for her 21st in February instead we hope. She's coming home for Christmas instead.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
29 Sep 09
She hopes and we will surprise her hopefully.
@Humbug25 (12540)
28 Sep 09
Well I do hope the op goes well for your wife p1kef1sh, nothing serious I hope and it is great that your daughter can 'home' for Christmas too. What a great idea to go out for her 21st, does she know you are doing that or are you going to surprise her?
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
27 Sep 09
Geez, I still haven't gotten over the idea of having to pay for headphones for the movies... Earlier this month we flew our nephew up from Los Angeles for the twins' birthday party and found out that the airline is now charging a $25 check in fee for unaccompanied minors. EACH WAY. Bah humbug...
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
28 Sep 09
I have noticed that seasoned travellers bring their own headphones Dawn. The airlines don't like it much though. No doubt they'll find a way to charge you for plugging in your own! $50 additional check in seems excessive. What did they do extra?
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
28 Sep 09
Some of the airlines actually sell the headphones now. I bought a set once. Guess what, it didn't work on a different airline.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
27 Sep 09
airline movies silly Alice...
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@maximax8 (31053)
• United Kingdom
26 Sep 09
I have traveled from the UK to Italy return, the UK to Portugal return and the UK to Latvia return with two cheap airlines. The seats on board are cramped together and uncomfortable. When I took my toddler son to Latvia the luggage allowance was 15 kilos. It was incredibly challenging to have one bag between the two of us weighing that or less. I ended up having to pay extra for the airline to carry the 5 kilo travel cot. On my first budget flight I took my oldest son to Italy when he was about five years old. There was a rush for seats. The seats weren't allocated in advance. We arrived and then had to get two buses to our destination. Nowadays it is common place for airlines to say passengers have to pay extra for in advance seat selection. I like a window seat so I can't risk not getting one of those. When I traveled with my toddler son the airline I went to South Africa with had different ideas about where we should sit. They wanted us to have a middle seat with lots of space but I wanted a window seat. What I must hate about going through an airport is the rules about liquids. I miss taking a water bottle. They are always suspicious about baby's bottles. I don't want to taste it. I say it is my baby's drink not mine. Worryingly there have been some air crashes lately. Flying isn't as much fun as it used to be with all the extra charges.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
26 Sep 09
I used to fly a lot (several times a month) all over the world and always preferred an aisle seat. But the idea of having paid for my seat already and then having to pay again is just absurd. No one likes a middle seat on flights, especially short haul where they tend to be much smaller. So how about a discount if I elect to sit in one?
@Aingealicia (1905)
• United States
27 Sep 09
All I have to say is I am glad I have not flown for a bit. That which you are talking about is just plain bad business. Thanks for the heads up, I may end up flying soon and that is good to know. I think I will fly Contenental if I do fly. (oh spelling check on Contental.) Ainge
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
28 Sep 09
It concerns me that where BA goes others will follow Ainge. I haven't flown for a year - we flew Singapore Airlines and they were very civilised. Personally I think that if one or two major businesses voted with their feet the the airlines might think again. My last employer spend £4 MILLION with BA per year. Now that's a major customer. If they pulled out then I'd be interested to see what they'd do to get the custom back.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
27 Sep 09
oh pikey thats just plain greedy of the airlines.I would really resent all those extra charges,it is hard enough to scrape up the initial payment without them adding more and more onto it. wow.that would make you wish you had wings and could just fly? oh my I have been mylotting much too long today. Wings indeed.oh well I am tired for sure.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
28 Sep 09
Well why not Hatley. A pair of wings would come in very useful. LOL.
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@saundyl (9783)
• Canada
27 Sep 09
Oh yes i do resent having to pay extra. What really gets me is the airlines that you are travelling over seas or a great distance and they charge you to have a bag...carry on or in the hold. I figure with seats though I'll take what i'm given and if they WANT me to change my seat with someone else then they better not charge me.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
28 Sep 09
I find the logic of the airlines interesting. What they say is that they are not interested in customer service, but only in running a lean business that maximises profit. The customers except this. Now just imagine if you local restaurant said that you had to pay extra to park, to have a plate, cutlery, a glass for your straw etc. Plus the meal was a penny, but then they'd add fees and tax to it. I wonder if anyone would ever go?
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@saundyl (9783)
• Canada
28 Sep 09
I wouldnt go. I honestly would rather drive places than fly. Some places i just cant if i wanna go though.
@littleowl (7157)
29 Sep 09
Hi p1key, as I have stopped flying now it makes me grateful that I don't, there are always catches with these supposed one penny cheap holidays, but it is downright ridiculous to start charging to go toilet on the plane...their loos anyway aren't always that clean to start with I think I would rather do my best to wait if flying to a destination no matter how long it took...well thats if it possible...hugs LoLo
@p1kef1sh (45681)
29 Sep 09
It is ridiculous LoLo. People don't need or want to be confused. They just want to travel safely and in comfort. XXXX
@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
26 Sep 09
I do resent those extra charges! As a result, I don't fly. Not that I have anywhere to go, but I would rather drive. My sons and I travel to another state each Christmas to see their grandparents on their dad's side and rather than spend all the money flying, we drive. Over here in America, they're now charging for every single piece of luggage other than carry on items. They're thinking of charging for those! Just goes to show that a bargain can be quite expensive!
@p1kef1sh (45681)
26 Sep 09
Indeed bargains can cost you as much if not more. I get really cheesed off with it. When you live on an island flying is sometimes the most convenient way to get off it. I can't get to the US without flying unless I go by ship. Now there's an (expensive) idea!
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@dragon54u (31636)
• United States
26 Sep 09
Ship might be expensive but think of the fun you and the Boss could have--a few weeks of a middle-aged honeymoon with a visit to the daughter! That sounds like it would be worth the investment, it's something you'd remember together with thrills and giggles for the rest of your lives!
26 Sep 09
Hi p1key, That to me is extortion, I hve travelled to many places before and after hearing that, I'd rather stay in our country, Glastonbury bury is good enough place for me to go when I wnat to get away, lol hus, Tamara xxxx
@p1kef1sh (45681)
26 Sep 09
Flights to Glastonbury are much cheaper Tamara! LOL. XXXX
@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
26 Sep 09
Hey p1key! Yes! I think that the airlines have lost their friggen minds! It is true that now they are all going crazy! They are trying to make you pay extra for everything so their "cheap tickets" are not cheap at all! By the time they finish charging you for everything it is not a bargain at all! And yes, they are doing this here in the US too! And yes, they are actually thinking about charging to use those disgusing things they call a toilet! And charge you to sit in a seat? They don't allow you to stand, so WTF? Can you stand against the side of the plane on takeoff? And of course now you MUST pay for checking your baggage! And that is anywhere from $15-$25 per bag! And if you don't pay for your ticket online you are now charged a penalty fee for bothering them when you arrive at the airport! This has gotten so out of control! When I left from Florida since my Mom didn't have a computer and I couldn't check in online I got a penaltly because I had to check in at the airport! WTF? And I got another penalty for having to check my baggage and pay for it there!
@p1kef1sh (45681)
28 Sep 09
I think that it is all ridiculous. I really wish that someone would make a stand. There is a bit of a backlash here, but not as much as there should be. The trouble is that in Europe these flights are very popular, especially with the young, with people that don't mind roughing it a bit. Even wit all the extra charges they are still cheaper than scheduled airlines - except BA by the looks of things. I just hate the deceit.
@sblossom (2168)
26 Sep 09
BA is one of my favorite airlines. I always choose BA to fly between Beijing and London, so far I'm satisfied with the service I have received from them. it's a little dodgy to charge more for choose seats. I feel upset to hear the news. however for now I have not came across it and I don't think I will need the special service because I always travel by myself. anyway if the passegers don't like the option mabye one day they will delete it. so passgers will be back to have free choice. Who knows what will happen next? best regards.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
26 Sep 09
Single passengers will probably be OK under BA's policy. It's if you travel accompanied that the problem sets in. Next time you come over please come to Salisbury. I am a guide at the Cathedral and would love to show you round. I saw that you visited Battle Abbey and its 13th century gatehouse. Now ruined mostly. I can show you a building started in 1220 and still being used for its original purpose. Plus one of only four existing copies of Magna Carta from 1215!