Pack up your things and leave this house! go!!!!!!!!!

@manong05 (5027)
Philippines
October 2, 2009 6:44am CST
I don't want to see your face any more. This is what I hear from a single mom neighbor who drives her 16 year-old daughter out of the house. Apparently the girl kept on dating her lesbian friend which the mother resents very much. I think this disciplinary action is way out of line and barbaric. This has no place in a civilized society. Maybe the mother has her own reason that I am not aware of but no way, this is justified. What do you think?
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• India
2 Oct 09
I will also be dissapointed if my 16 year old daughter dates a lesbian. My sympathies are entirely with the single mom. Just imagine the hard ship she would have undergone to raise this girl. Any mother or father will like to see their children having a normal relation ship and having babies. It will always be their wish to kiss and cuddle their grandchildren.
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@manong05 (5027)
• Philippines
3 Oct 09
Raising the children alone without the benefit of having a husband is never easy and she indeed deserves our symphaties. How I wish that all families will live a normal life of seeing the children grow, be successful and eventually find a job and get married. Unfortunately, somewhere along the way, dissappointing incidents happen. Be that as it may, these incidents should not make parents lose their bearings in their vision to give their children a good future.
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@manong05 (5027)
• Philippines
3 Oct 09
correction please, male, that is. LOL Nice thoughts there.
• India
3 Oct 09
Sorry, my mistake, I thought you were a female, and it was either your son or husbands photo as as avatar.
• United States
2 Oct 09
I would never throw my daughter out like that....and especially not over something like who she was dating or if she got pregnant or was failing school or something like that....I have told her that once she graduates high school (she will be 18 then)that she HAS to either be enrolled in college or be working and that she would not be able to continue living with us free of charge if she wasnt...but i would not just say get out on the spur of the moment like that ever....my mother did that to me more than once and to my brother too...i know how that feels .... not good!
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@manong05 (5027)
• Philippines
3 Oct 09
I'd been through a similar experience when I was young. I know the feeling, it's definitely not good. Thanks. Cheers.
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
2 Oct 09
having raised 4 teen girls, I am guessing that this single mom shouted this words in anger. At least I hope she did. Teens are rebellious and being a single parent is stressful even in the best of situations. I know how easy it is for emotions to fire up and words to fly that no one means. I hope that is the case with your neighbor. I would hope that she is not holding her daughter's being gay against her as it is not her fault. Anyway, there is no way ever for it to be justified in sending a 16 yr old out on their own. Regardless of issues, we are legally responsible for our kids until they are 18 at least. If she did in fact really kick her daughter out of the home then she deserves to be reported.
@manong05 (5027)
• Philippines
3 Oct 09
Unfortunately, the government is slow in reacting to domestic issues like this one. Unless, the action resulted to untoward results, then that's maybe when they will step in. This form of child discipline is not tolerated in a civilized society. cheers!
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
3 Oct 09
That's really too bad because there are very few 16 yr olds that are able to make it on their own in the world. Teens are very difficult to deal with. I think they are more difficult than the "terrible twos" you hear so much about. Still...dealing with them is the only way. To be able to kick them out and be done with them when things get tough is not only dangerous to the kid...it is unfair to everyone. Either someone will kindly take them in which would be the best scenario or they'll end up on the street causing trouble and getting into trouble. We get that here too but if the kid gets in trouble then the parent is financially and legally responsible.
@dloveli (4366)
• United States
3 Oct 09
We haven't heard the whole story so I really cant elaborate on it. However, in general a parent is responsible for a child until they are 18 or out of college. There are some people that are still living in the stone age. The mother is clearly against homosexuality. Her daughter is on the opposite side of the issue. Being that we don't know all the facts its hard to say this woman is a bad mother. For all we know the child could have been sneaking around, lying about where she's going,or staying out after curfew. Then trust issues come into play. I do think kicking a minor child out into the street is unconscionable. I think that this family is in trouble and need help. As a parent, there are things that are children may do or not do that we dont agree with. We must be ready to hug them when they fail, kiss their boo boos, and support them even though we dont fully understand. If you cant do those things, You shouldnt be a parent. Maybe we can email her a copy of your discussion. She is clearly unclear on how to be a good parent. Im sure kicking her out because she is in love with another girl isnt the best way to parent. OPEN MINDS creates well adjusted, accepting, children. dl
@Drumman (305)
• United States
5 Oct 09
Wow! You just said "Being that we don't know all the facts its hard to say this woman is a bad mother." and "She is clearly unclear on how to be a good parent." all in the same paragraph.
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@dloveli (4366)
• United States
7 Oct 09
Nothing wrong with pointing out both sides my friend. Obviously there are issues somewhere in this situation. Its not up to me to figure out what they are. I am simply stating the obvious. I glad you read other responses. We are here to answer and support a fellow myLotter who is sharing serious issues that go on in our neighborhoods everyday. Thats what we SHOULD be worrying about. My only hope is that the children are ok. dl
@patms1 (521)
• United States
3 Oct 09
I think it's terrible. I don't think its even legal. I understand it hard to admit you child is gay but she is your child. I hope the day never comes when she regrets what she has done.
@patms1 (521)
• United States
3 Oct 09
I also want to say that just because she has lesbian girlfriend does not mean she is gay. I was wrong to say that. She may be just trying different things. Instead of throwing her out sit and talk to her. She may be still going out with her friend just to spite you. Talk to her and explain why you are against her in this and maybe you and she can come to an agreement. Don't turn your back on her. If any thing happend to her you will never be able to forgive your self.
• Philippines
2 Oct 09
I also don't think that a mother or father should say that thing to their children. It is not a good way to discipline the child. If parents said that to their child, the child may take that seriously and would have run away. That will cause a lot of trouble. Some parents do say things that they don't really mean. They do say things like that out of anger and disappointment. But yes, still not an excuse to treat their children like that. They should be talking to their kids properly and in a nice way otherwise kids will turn rebellious on them. That was a common mistake of parents, they keep on nagging their kids rather than solving and getting into the real problem. Children need to feel parents' understanding and care for them to follow or else they will do exactly opposite of what their saying because children gets irritated on them.
@manong05 (5027)
• Philippines
3 Oct 09
Yes, a wrong committed can never be corrected by doing another wrong. Throwing the girl to the streets is the worse thing a mother can do to solve her girl's problem. Thanks. have a great day.
• Philippines
3 Oct 09
I just hope that her daughter will not take her word seriously. It's going to be a big big problem if her teenager girl decided to leave their home as she wished. And worst if her daughter go with some bad people.
@irishidid (8688)
• United States
2 Oct 09
Love for your child is unconditional. No matter what path that child has chosen in life. There is nothing to justify what this mother has done. You don't have to like what your child is doing, but your child is always your child.
@manong05 (5027)
• Philippines
3 Oct 09
yes, love is indeed unconditional. There is nothing a child can do that deserves to be kicked out of the house and thrown to the streets. Thank you. Have a great day.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
2 Oct 09
First of all, the mom can't change the fact that the girl is gay. Second, 16 is too young for a child to be out on her own. I think the mother is wrong.
@manong05 (5027)
• Philippines
3 Oct 09
wrong, she is. In this situation, counselling, I think is in order. Thanks.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
2 Oct 09
Was she serious? I mean did she actually drive her out of the house? If you don't have a teen, it's hard to realize how stressful it can be, especially for a single parent raising one. I want to clearly express that THIS PARENTS' REASON for venting and striking out at her daughter is NOT in my opinion a reasonable nor decent reason to get that mad, but that's just my opinion. Some teens do things that are very disrespectful, from not checking in or getting home when they are supposed to, to storming out in front of you when you have told them they were grounded and they do it anyway! Some of them damage property or refuse to do expected chores, or their school work, and there HAS to be consequences for those things, as well as if they talk back or threaten you because they don't FEEL like doing what they should. Anyway, as far as this girl and who she was dating? While I can agree that it's kind of up to parents whether their kids date or not, I don't necessarily agree that it's okay for parents to decide WHO their kids date. As long as it isn't a matter of a 22 year old dating a 16 year old, I mean if the kids are close to the same age and still both minors, clearly the issue here is with the parent's belief against alternative lifestyles, which to me is intolerant and barbaric for this 'civilized society'. Again, that is ONLY my opinion but I do believe that at least MY opinion is civilized.
@manong05 (5027)
• Philippines
3 Oct 09
Being young, there is a point when children do get rebellious not being able to see things eye to eye with their parents. The problem is parents want their children to think the way they do. Children on the other hand expect their parents to look at things the way they do too. Parents, of all persons, must be in the position to better understand since matters like these one, affects the future of their kids. have a great day.
@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
3 Oct 09
Hi manong~ A parent isn't supposed to act this way to a 16 year old child. They are still responsible by law no matter how they feel about what the child is doing, because she is still their child! They are the parent and are supposed to love their child unconditionally. I do hope that this mother will realize that this child no matter what she is doing is still her child and still needs her love and guidance and will realize this before it is too late!
@manong05 (5027)
• Philippines
3 Oct 09
Yes, I hope those words came out of her out of a fit of anger and were never really meant after all. Throwing a girl to the streets is a terrible thing to do. Thanks. have a great day.
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• United States
3 Oct 09
Is that in the United States. If it is, it's against the law, you can't throw minor children out of the house. It just doesn't work that way. I think it is over the top. I love my children no matter what they do. Actually, that is the way I am with anyone I love. I don't understand conditional love. I really, truly don't understand it at all. That mother needs to wake up and realize there are worse things in life and figure out a way to work things out with her daughter.
@Drumman (305)
• United States
5 Oct 09
You can love your children at the same time you are kicking them out of your house. We don't know the whole story. Perhaps this daughter is highly disrespectful of the single mother who has given up the last 16 years of her life to provide for her daughter. If the relationship is not working then the best thing for both of them may be for the daughter to leave. Loving someone doesn't mean giving them what they want all the time. I may be way off here, but I may be right too. We don't know all the facts of the situation.
@cbeee3 (2061)
• India
2 Oct 09
We do not know the circumstances which led the mother to ask her daughter to leave home. So may be there are things that ticked the mum off. But no matter what, parents should not be throwing their 16 year old children out! If the child did something wrong, then the mum needs to help her understand. That is what parenting is all about, is it not? You use your own life experience to teach your children. And if the mum asked her child to leave coz she is a lesbian, I think that is by far the lamest thing. This is really sad!!
@manong05 (5027)
• Philippines
3 Oct 09
Throwing the children to the streets makes matter worse and is not a solution. Sad, it is. I hope those words were said out of a fit of anger that the mother will soon regret saying. have a great day.
• Philippines
2 Oct 09
there are inappropriate things that we utter because we are in the fit of anger and disappointment. in our effort to guide and mold our children into the right path, we feel disappointed, hopeless, frustrated and angered if things don't go as we want them to be. we always want the ideal and the best for our children; no parent would do otherwise. if things really go out of way, the best to do is to accept the reality and do something to uplift the situation.
@manong05 (5027)
• Philippines
3 Oct 09
uncontrolled anger may make persons utter words that they don't really mean and regret saying theim afterwards. Words have deep effects in the children's minds and can direct their lives. To actually kick a child out of the home, is never a sane option in parenting. Cheers!
• United States
2 Oct 09
I think the mother needs to calm down and think of a better alternative than the one she is using. I'm sure if she sat down with her daughter and explained her feelings and her daughter explained hers, then they would eventually come to an understanding. Maybe the mother is old-fashioned, but we don't live in an old-fashioned world anymore. These type of situations are becoming more common and we have to learn how to accept and deal with them. Just because people don't live according to our beliefs doesn't make them wrong. As long as their way of life does not harm anyone, then how people want to live is up to them. Also, the mother should not be shouting so loud that the neighbors can here. You know the old saying, "Never air out your dirty laundry."
@manong05 (5027)
• Philippines
3 Oct 09
Yes, people should not go out and display their dirty laundry. Openess and a heart to heart talk works wonders in solving domestic problems. Some parents, out of a fit of anger, sometimes utter words that are terrible to the ears. They should learn how to tame their tonques a little bit. Cheers!
@vicky30 (4766)
• India
26 Jan 10
This is not justified as the mother should try to understand all the daughters actions.The mother must speak to her about good things and try to tell her what impact it may have in here life in the future.Because the mother has bought the daughter up since she was small she should not say such words.Later one day the mother will feel lonely in the house and she will start crying for the daughter to come back.
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
7 Oct 09
It does sound overly harsh. My parents had similar issue with my sister when she was around fifteen. I was no longer living at home because I’m 15 years older and I used to hear about the argument between my sister and my parents all the time. They used to throw all her things out onto the road and throw her out of the house which almost always resulted in her coming to me for a place to stay. I always obliged of course because I care for my sister but I always resented my parents for shoving their responsibilities on to me!
@jheLaichie (4438)
• Philippines
2 Oct 09
we have our ways on how we disciplined our children. but would they learn if we are like that to them. but what is important is that we shre them our views. neverlet them see that we disagree. and if so, let us explain our reasons to our children. so that their respect wont be erased from them to us. we have many reasons and many ways but that is not the right way to discipline our children jhelai
@manong05 (5027)
• Philippines
2 Oct 09
hi jhelai. Yes, I believe that there is no reason to drive the children out of the house. The single mom may have been terrible over burdened taking all the responsibilities in the house but even then, this action is never justifiable. have a great day! cheers.
• United States
2 Oct 09
I quite agree, this is no way to express any form of discipline to a child. 16 or not, she's still a child. And regardless of the reason, telling her to leave is something that shouldn't even be thought of. How is the young girl going to learn from her mistakes? If she is a lesbian, so be it. There's nothing wrong with that. People need to be more open minded about life and happiness. All that girl is going to learn from this is that she can run away and leave all her problems. Even if the mother was looking out for her best interest.. this is no way to do it.
@manong05 (5027)
• Philippines
3 Oct 09
Yes kicking a daughter (or son for that matter) is not an option in disciplining children. Parents should be more open minded in issues like this one. cheers.
• Indonesia
7 Oct 09
I think natural mother doing it because his daughter hanging out with things that deviate from civilized society and religion
2 Oct 09
I would never turn my back on my kids, no matter what. And being a lesbian, is nothing at all to be ashamed of, so if the mother is doing this because of that reason, then she should be ashamed of herself, in my opinion.
@manong05 (5027)
• Philippines
2 Oct 09
precisely, she may have done that out of terrible anger but even then she is the mother and should know better. have a great day.