New style of teaching.
By suzzy3
@suzzy3 (8341)
October 14, 2009 1:27pm CST
I must admit being sceptical about new teaching methods.As a parent with three kids going through the education system in England over 30 years have seen some changes .our kids used as guinea pigs for the next wacky phase of someones thinking what is best for out kids.We had the it does not matter stage about learning to spell or use grammer apparently it was the content of the work that was important.My daughter showed me some work in english that she had got an A for.The grammer was non existent and the spelling of a four year old.I rang the teacher and told her I was not happy with my daughter getting an A for the work she turned out.I was assured by this young hip teacher this was the way they were going with free expression and free thought.I let the teacher know if she continued to teach my child english in this way I would come to the school and let her hear my free thought and free expression in front of the head teacher and then we would see who would still be teaching by the end of the day.Apparently the rest of the parents were not very happy either and the teacher changed her ways quickly.Then we had SATS first introduced 20 years ago in England as an experiment,my daughter took this exam in math,english and science got straight A in all three,really pleased with her self ,she was going to put these exam results in her cv for when she left school.only to be told six months later they were not being counted,and disbanded.Having said all that the new method they have adopted in primary school is not to have strict maths and english lesson but fed into every other subject my grandchildren are learning really well and enjoying school much more,so this idea seems to be working well.not disimilar to how we learnt at school many years before.
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@deebomb (15304)
• United States
15 Oct 09
Good for you on keeping on top of your kids education.
I don't know about in Briton but here in the U.S. most of the teachers belong to the teachers unions so bad teachers can't be fired even if they abuse the kids.
Text books are so dry who wants to read them besides changing the facts. Memorizing math facts is out let alone spelling and having a good readable hand writing.
Now Obama wants to make the school day and week longer because we are behind those in other countries. Our kids already put in more hours than any where else.
It's more important for the kids to feel good than to learn. The red correction pen has been banned because it might make a child feel bad.
Here a lot of parents are home schooling.
When most of the kids do get to college they have to take remedial class in order to even get started with their education.
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@deebomb (15304)
• United States
15 Oct 09
Instead of red correction pens they use purple. It's more important for a child to feel good than to be disappointed in a grade. The remedial classes are taken in the first year of college. Parents home schooling are doing it from K to 12 grade in a lot of cases. Uniforms would probably go a long way to getting the kids to concentrate but Heaven forbid it might infringe on their rights to express them selves. A very few schools have gone so far as to separate the boys from the girls and have done very well because boys learn differently than girls and that has worked but not very popular.
Here the kids go from something like 8:00 to 3:30 and that is high school. School goed from August to may or September to Jume depending on what part of the country you live in. The kids get 3 month off for the summer and a week or two off (depending when Christmas and new years day falls) for winter break (Christmas) and spring break. Better teachers would help but they don't have many incentives to try or even stay. Teacher's Unions prevent good teachers from getting better pay than poor ones.
@suzzy3 (8341)
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15 Oct 09
The red correction pen is banned,how on earth can a child tell if it needs to work harder or repeat the test.Sounds like to much is taught parrot fashion.banging out facts how boring,it sounds like the kids need some fun injected into lessons.Discipline can be used in fun situations.No wonder so many of Americans are home schooling remedial classes before college,that is terrible.We have school uniform in England so all kids look the same,if everyone else is wearing the latest fashions and you are not how on earth can you learn,you feel at a disadvantage before you start.Maybe a bit of fun,better teachers and school uniform will help your kids better.Our kids go from 9 till about 3pm monday to friday and have a week off every six weeks,seven weeks in summer,two weeks at easter and bank holidays it is like they are never there.thanks for interesting comment we will put the world right between us.
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@ronnyb (6113)
• Jamaica
20 Oct 09
Wow I am sorry to hear that the standard of education had fallen in England but I guess it has fallen everywhere too .I guess now that there are some teachers now in the classroom that dont want to be here nor do they belong there and as a result they are putting out sub standard work ,the only sad thing is that our children ,the future rulers ,scientists etc will be the product of this poor stndard.I hope this new method continues to do well and I am happy to see that at leats there are doing something about it .Here on the island and by the way our education system was modeled on yours continue to fail and put out student with sub standard educational abilities.Have a good day Suze and all teh success for your children
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@suzzy3 (8341)
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20 Oct 09
I can imagine how it happens but some kids leave school and cannot read and write properly,the trouble is in the old days if you had a kid that played up ,he was soon silenced,he or she would either fall into line or be expelled.These days the teachers can do nothing about it,must not shout,threaten,or anything.So the disruptive pupils get their followers and there you go,teachers are powerless kids are allowed to get away with anything,it is down to the do gooders as we call them.I don't suppose those people have even given birth or have nannys to bring up their kids.No discipline no learning.I had to fight to get my David moved to a non disruptive class ,I told them I don't want him in with the kids that make a noise and are disruptive.David used to come home from school in tears because he wanted to learn because he wants to stand a chance in the job market.So I took action.He was moved and learn't well and passed all his exams.

@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
15 Oct 09
It seems that as parents, we are already old-fashioned and our kids are not yet out of school! It’s the same here in India too…new age schooling aims to lessen the pressures on kids and make education a thing to enjoy!!! I really don’t know how good that would come to, when we were in school we had to take our studies seriously, education was something not to be played with (read ‘enjoyed’) and teachers were to be respected and even feared. I still believe that was the best way… inculcating discipline, teaching a subject as it should be taught and giving education its due importance.
Being a former British colony, English is still very important in India and thankfully I have chosen a school for my son which lays great importance to the details of teaching every subject the way it should be taught and learnt. But very recently there was a survey report which stated that after the Govt decided to do away with formal examination till Std V and just promote students on yearly performance, most students promoted to Std VI could not even compose a large paragraph properly or do a little complicated but basic arithmetic!
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@suzzy3 (8341)
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15 Oct 09
Quite a bit of me see's discipline as something that must be taught and adhered to.We were taught with discipline and it did us no harm,nobody I know has ended up offending anybody in the street or riding out bikes down escalator in the malls.They do that now as they have not been taught proper self discipline.I beg to differ with you on enjoying school it was made to be fun for us,but god helped us if we stepped out of line.I would say it was the same at school as it was at home,not just for us but for everyone.You got the occasional family that was naughty and the parents could not care,but they were put in care,no messing around.Our teachers in the main were very kind but fair.They would not put up with any nonsence but we learn't well.I don't understand the std v,but it sounds like one of those systems where the kids are allowed to more or less do what they want to,thanks for a wonderful comment I have had so many interesting ones.really pleased best wishes.
@dreamjapan (409)
• Japan
15 Oct 09
I have no idea about English education even though I'm from the UK. I have lived in Japan for almost 19 years and my kids are going through the education system here. Here is memorise without learning. My husband says Japanese education is like a puzzel, every piece has a place and that can't be changed while in England it is more like Lego where the pieces can be put anywhere and the answer will be okay. I was shocked that kids here have no imagination, they can't seem to think for themselves. I tutor English at home and one young lad I teach is very smart and has incredible command of English but he couldn't do a simple exercise of making up an imaginary island, giving it a name and what kind of people would live there. All he ever had to do was to remember what is put in.
By the way here the system is very bad, to enter high school (at 16) the kids sit a test, you would think that the test material would be taught at school but no if you want your kids to get into a good high school you pay for the kids to go to cram school in the evening and on the weekends, you can't afford it tough!! The same for university, pay for cram schools or you kids miss out!!!
@suzzy3 (8341)
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15 Oct 09
It is a bit like here in England if you can pay your child does better,espeically at the college and university stages of the education.It sounds like your kids over there have a good time,it is getting more like here these days they are not having strict maths english anymore they are doing child centred learning.Maths english and science are all worked into the project they are doing at the time.I don't have to worry about educating any young ones anymore as my son is in year 12 studying for A levels for a university education entrance.My grandchildren are doing very well in the infant primary school.I differ to say they have sharp imaginations,although they both enjoyed a very good nursery education and pre school education and were taken to lots of places ,swimming,dancing,after school clubs.So I would have to agree with you money speaks volumes here as well..A lot of it has come from my daughter and her husband,they have been to paris disney land.egypt,spain they are very fortunate kids indeed.Having to pay for crammer school sounds very unfair indeed to get them into a descent high school.They have special needs classes in all our secondary schools so if your child is struggling they get extra help but no child is turned down and offered the same opportunities as all the others.I guess we have failings anywhere in the world we send out kids to school.Thanks for you reply very interesting,always nice to hear from parents in other countries
@pede_22 (385)
• Philippines
15 Oct 09
I'm just a newly hired mathematics teacher here in the Philippines (22m). I think there's a lot of changes now in terms of educational system. A teacher has different strategies and styles on how to impart her/his lessons to her/his students. There are also many factors involve. It depends upon the school curriculum being used.
Last year, i taught in a private school. I was surprised because they used a modern type of teaching. I applied their methods of teaching although deep inside I don't like it because I was in born with the traditional type of teaching. There's no ASSIGNMENT that you will give to your students.It's actually in all subject areas. I DON'T LIKE IT!I want my students to compute, solve, and manipulate some mathematical problems at their home but it's their policy. So, as a teacher I'd never violated their policy. Their classroom instruction also is very different. It's a parallel type. Two sections at the same type. As a Math teacher, I have my facilitator (other teacher not math major) to assist me at the other section... The students must prepare always their activities daily, of course, all sujects. The teacher is just roaming around and facilitating their students. They eventually made this in order to develop the COMPREHENSION SKILLS of the students.
As of now, as a PUBLIC mathematics teacher here in the Philippines, I feel little astonished because I faced another NEW method of CURRICULUM. But stll, I strive hard to coap up all of these styles. Hopefully, I can adjust myself... lol
About your situation, maybe some of the students or classmates of your daughter belong to below average level, so the teacher is really engaged in an easy style of teaching strategy.
I think there are also some factors that we should try to look. Maybe we should let the teachers to attend seminars, lectures, then, devlop their skills in order to teach their lessons very well. They should also improve their knowledge throughout their lessons. They should not focus only at a certain subject but, it should be in all subjects...
I hope I help on this... GOD BLESS and Good luck to you and to your family.
@suzzy3 (8341)
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15 Oct 09
I think teachers are marvellous and forget how difficult it must be to adapt all the changes in the classroom and take my hat of to you for all your efforts.I remember the projects my kids used to come home with.Many a happy hours going through books with them,ringing up firms and companies for details they could use ,all the trawling through library books to investigate and find out for themselves on a subject that took their fancy,in actual fact I still have some of their bulky folders of projects in my loft somewhere ,they used to sit their with glue and scissors,cutting and pasting articles into their folders.They were taught to go out into the world and ask questions,find out from people,read from books,for the first two kids the internet did not exist,but my youngest son uses other sources of information gathering from the internet,amazing type into the browser and all that information comes up in minutes,everything they need,download .print of pages,not quite the same and not so much fun,but at the rate they have to learn probably the best way of doing things.I still feel they leant a lot more and it stayed with them longer,to develop into the next stage of learning thank you so much for the insight into the teachers prospective .
@sachi2008 (1)
• India
15 Oct 09
Education is very valuable in carrier. Now a days on-line education is very suitable then academic type of education.
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@manong05 (5027)
• Philippines
15 Oct 09
I think in many parts of the world, the field of education is undergoing waves of changes as policy makers and education experts adapt the teaching approaches in line with changes in the society in the light of ever increasing developments in science and technology. Re-structuring, re-shaping, re-inventing the educational system is the order of the day.
In the old days, especially in the advent of industrialization, education is mainly geared to preparing children for work in factories. The subjects taught were basic reading and writing and simple arithmetic. As science and technology develops, researches are conducted as to the learning processes going on in man's brain and the capacity of man to learn something new. No wonder that some children are used as guinea pigs as they test their theories and concepts.
The world today is light years more advanced than yesterday's in a brief span of time so many things emerged and develop that teaching basic reading and writing is not enough. In a very age, concepts of computers are being introduced, logical reasoning is encouraged,and lots more.
Having said that, policy makers, teachers and school administrators should be working together. Parents or guardians must actively participate in every aspect that greatly affects their children.
have fun.
@suzzy3 (8341)
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15 Oct 09
We must move with the times and adapt our education to the needs of the world the kids will grow up in and live in.Like you say the advancements in technology move so fast some of us find it very hard to deal with.You used to be able to sit and teach your kids with the basics and to a certain extent these aspects are still needed.Sometimes with computer spell checks,sending homework through email.Takes a way a lot of what we as parents still like to participate in.The closeness of sitting with your child with a book.The spelling list and learning times tables,square roots ect,feeling you are contributing towards their future and nurturing them.I think some parents find it very difficult to contribute to the extent they feel able.My four year old grandson sits at my computer quite happily typing in and playing games on his own ,he has been doing this for about six months he is learning all the time for his world.I still insist he leaves technology behind for a while for a good old fashioned play on the swings and feed the ducks.Boring he says ,boring but necessary I answer.
@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
14 Oct 09
When my kids were in school they began teaching differently. Luckily, my boys learned phonics and grammar and spelling. The classes after them were nearly illiterate using that new method! They stopped after a couple years but the damage was done.
You are right to tell that teacher you don't want those methods. Why are people always trying to improve on tried and true methods of education?! I think they want us to be illiterate. A population that can't read or write is easily controlled.
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@suzzy3 (8341)
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14 Oct 09
I never looked at it like that but you may have a point.They go on and on about going to university in England then they price it out of the oridinary persons pocket ,tuition fees,making the students take out massive loans,ect unless you are really well off you don't stand a chance.
@tamarafireheart (15384)
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14 Oct 09
Hi suzzy,
Education today? what educations, the kids cannot spell their own names and what top jobs, they do not wnat to stat at the bottom and work their way up, I had conversation with my hubb about the education sustems today and what he told me was, it does not matter if the spell as the computer will do everything for them, their lack knowledge don't matter anymore using the three "Rs" like when we were thought, what do you expect when teachers themself are far too young and cannot spell for toffee for themselves.
Tamara
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@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
15 Oct 09
Good on you for letting the teacher know how you felt! My daughter is seven and in Year Two. She appears to be doing well and has learnt to read and spell. The work does seem somewhat easier to me than what I was given at her age but it is difficult for me to make the comparison because I went to school in Italy form Year one to Year five and didn’t start school in Australia where we live now until Year six. I recall doing more mathematical work but my child does not do any maths homework; she says she does maths in class. It is all different, I just have to keep an eye on how she is going and, like you speak up if I am ever not happy.


@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
16 Oct 09
My daughter did kindergarten when she was four which was two full days a week. The following year she did pre-primary full time; both of these involved lots of play still. She didn't start full on school being year one until she was six. The home visit sounds like a good idea, I have never heard of a teacher taking the time out to do that!
@suzzy3 (8341)
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15 Oct 09
In my expereince teachers like feed back from the parents.My daughter had a home visit from the teacher with her youngest ,to meet him in his own home and get to know him first,what about that then.Keep your eye out for them some countries don't start formal education till six or seven which I think is probably better as they are that bit more mature.In England my son went to school full time two weeks after his 4th birthday,they are changing it a bit now and giving parents of summer born kids achoice of start dates.I wish I had waited till my son was nearly five.
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@anniefannie (1737)
• United States
15 Oct 09
good for you. more parents should let the schools know what they think about things that goes on.
@EnglishTeaDuck (862)
• United States
15 Oct 09
It is definitely different from when I was at school! In fact, I was in the first year to take GCSE's so I remember when we had O Levels before that, which my brother took!
I am all for free expression - I would like my kids to have the vocabulary, grammar and communication skills to be able to freely express what they want to say! Have you seen kids who have the 'free' without the appropriate skills? You know, the ones with a vocabulary of three words?...lol (see Little Britain or the Catherine Tate show for reference!)
I do think it is to do with the kids themselves and the parents though. I was taught to read by my parents before I even went to school, and numbers, colors, spelling, all that - even a bit of french from a student we had staying...! My parents considered that their responsibility, as well as the schools, so I think it helps when parents realize this.
The kids I feel sorry for are the ones who end up in a school that does not teach well, but have parents who don't care. That's sad, and you have to hope the child gets inspired somewhere along the way to WANT to learn something themselves.
It sounds like your children and grandchildren have a loving family to point them in the right direction!
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@suzzy3 (8341)
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15 Oct 09
I was the last year to take C.S.E. along time ago now.We were taught to read and write properly and express outselves at home and school.My mother was never really educated herself properly spent her fomative years in an air raid shelter,plus she had TB and sick kids in those days were cared for but not really pushed in education especially if they were female.she did her best to help us,but felt safer leaving it up to the school.All three of mine were used to looking at books and telling the story from the pictures ,colours ,numbers a bit like yours.I cannot stand those yea but kids it drives me round the bend.I feel like saying come on for goodness sake I am interested in what you have to say,and find out how you feel about things,so sad no one takes an interest.All these kids growing up thinking they are not worth bothering with.My daughter plays with her little ones,when they were younger jigsaws,cooking ,reading,sitting with them and explaining things I am extremely proud of her ,both her kids are bright and happy and are willing to try anything and have a go at anything,try anything,marvellous.








