A shoplifter in the family!

Spain
October 18, 2009 4:47am CST
I spoke to my youngest son last night, and he told me of my granddaughter's latest escapade. Chloe is two years old, they were shopping and she picked up some sweets and put them on the conveyor belt. Mum and Dad said no, as they had bought her a 'Disney Princess' book - her latest craze. Chloe was sent back to the sweet stand to return the sweets - or so they thought. When they got back to the car and were safely away from the store, she fetched out the sweets and began to eat them. She'd only pretended to put them back, and had palmed them into her pocket! It runs in the family, I'm afraid. My eldest son, her uncle, filled his big, old fashioned pram with tins while I was chatting to a friend. The weather was bad, so the waterproof apron hid the loot until we reached home. I was mortified, but his father said, 'At least he's stolen things we like, like baked beans!' Yes, it was funny at the time, but it wouldn't have been if security had spotted it. Have your children shoplifted when they were too young to understand what they were doing? Were they spotted? Were you embarrassed? Do tell!
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
19 Oct 09
LOL! There were two occasions, one recent one not so recent. When my daughter was 2, she had reached over and grabbed a pack of gum behind my back and I simply didn't see it when I was paying. I would have paid for it had I known she had it, but I didn't, and I didn't see it until she had gotten the pack open in the car! The recent time we were in a store and I was helping her and her friend pick out some candy - it was one of those bulk candy stores. She found this little stuffed creature and was showing it to me, I told her to put it back and I guess she didn't put it back lol. We were about 4 stores down in the mall when she goes 'mommy look.... I forgot to put it back, uh oh.' I just took it back. I did wonder why the store employees didn't notice but then again I didn't notice either until AFTER we had walked out lol.
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• Spain
19 Oct 09
Hello, Mommyboo - sounds like you have a serial shoplifter in the making! Seriously, you did the right thing in returning the toy, as she probably thought you'd allow her to keep as you'd left the store. Problem is, they're so cute about these things YOU feel like the one in the wrong for confiscating the goods!
@jellymonty (2352)
18 Oct 09
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• Spain
18 Oct 09
Well, with an auntie called Jelly, they're bound to love sweeties, aren't they? As far as shoplifting tots go, that has to be a major heist. It's a wonder they didn't explode, and I can understand why you haven't taken them shopping since!
@Thoroughrob (11742)
• United States
19 Oct 09
Most of the time they won't prosecute at that age. My daughter was 5 and came home from a shopping trip with candy, I packed her back up, and made her take it back in and tell them what she did. She gave it back and I made her get into her piggy bank and take enough money to pay for it. So she did not get the candy and lost her money too. As far as I know, she didn't do any more.
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
2 Nov 09
I've heard of that method too, I think it's a great one. It really makes them think, I'm sure it's embarrassing, but then they realize it wasn't the right thing to do!
• Spain
20 Oct 09
Yes, that's a good way to deal with it, because your daughter had to take responsibility for her actions and also lose by it, so she was made to feel what the person she stole from felt. Of course, at 5 years old there is a basic grasp of what's right and wrong, which isn't there at two. I told my son he should have taken the sweets back, but he was too embarrassed. He did confiscate them, though, so at least Chloe has had an early lesson that crime doesn't pay! Thanks for a really interesting response.
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
18 Oct 09
Now maybe I shouldn't laugh as this is a serious discussion(?) but that phrase 'At least he's stolen things we like' had me in fits! I don't think thatmy son shop-lifted when he was young but maybe he did it so well that even I didn't notice him. I know thathe was very much aware that shops had security systems set up so he maybe was to scared to even try. When he was small we actually had a shop of our own so we did not go out shopping as often as many would. I can't help wondering, after reading this, at what age a child becomes aware that what they are doing is wrong? When do they actually do it to see if they can get away with it rather than just doing it because they shouldn't (if you get my point).
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
18 Oct 09
That was always my douibt - what makes a serious crime? I remember when my son was 10 months old and still not walking but used one of those things with wheels that he sort of sat in and moved about (no idea what they ar called). He eyed up one of my beautiful plants and made a dash for it and pulled some of the leaves off - at 10 months! I scolded him and got told off by his father. I reasoned that he knew darn well what he was doing as I had seen him eyeing it up so he was also old enough to know that he couldn't!
@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
22 Oct 09
He must have known that I was fond of that plant as he saw me tnding to it often. Some months later, once he was walking, a similar incident. I was out hanging the washing and he pulled out many of my albums (33s remember?) and had great fun stomping on them. That was the scene when I got back inside so I feel he was taking it out things that he knew were important to me. (An intelligent kid like his mom eh? ). I talked and reasoned with him a lot about many aspects of life and rights and wrongs and that's how we probably never had any shop-lifting episodes (well none that I was aware of ).
• Spain
18 Oct 09
Hello, Diana. We've laughed a lot as well. When my son did his shoplifting, he was less than a year old, so definitely too young to know the difference. Chloe is such a darling, she always gets what she wants, so I suppose she saw it as her due. I certainly think she's too young to understand. She knows what 'no' means, but she doesn't grasp why, so she doesn't get the morality issue. I'm sure we can rehabilitate her after her serious crime. (At least, I hope we can!)
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
2 Nov 09
My husband and I don't have children yet, as we just got married. I am sure this is something we will have to worry about some day, though I think most shop owners or shops know that it is an honest mistake and accident, and that the parents can't watch everythign the children do, or monitor them even when they supposed to be putting the stuff back. I think I've shoplifted when I was younger. There was one time that I picked up a penny from the floor, and was yelled at for doing so. I'm not sure why, but I remember it vaguely. I actually think that's the "shoplifting" that I am remembering.
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
9 Nov 09
To be honest, I'm almost certain it was a penny but can't be completely sure. Whatever it was, it was small in size... It may have just been the principle that things on the floor are dirty!
• Spain
3 Nov 09
Yes, I think it's part of growing up, and I'm sure most shopkeepers will be understanding, as they've probably gone through the same thing with their own children. Don't know why you weren't allowed to keep your penny, though - finder's keepers is the usual principle, unless what you find is really valuable.
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@Lucky09 (1763)
• Philippines
18 Oct 09
hi Sandra^^;; it happened to my younger sister when she was 3 (we have 19years gap) my mother needs to go somewhere so i need to do the shopping with her. I normally asked her what she like so that time she chose and put it in the shopping cart. I knew that when we reached the cashier, she wasn't holding anything. i finished paying and went out with bags with my right hand and grabbing her hand with my left then i felt she was holding something, it was a roll of mentos candy...waahaha! there were some candies displayed near the cashier and maybe she picked it while i was busy paying the groceries. I told my mom and we were both laughing..it never happened again though.
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• Spain
18 Oct 09
I think supermarkets put sweets at the checkouts purposely, because they bank on the psychology that the parents will pay for what their kids pick up, rather than have a tantrum, so in many ways it's their own fault. We laughed over it, because it's cute and funny when a tot does it, but not such a laughing matter a few years down the line. Still, she didn't get to keep her ill-gotten gains, so even though she's not old enough to understand what she did, she's had an early lesson that crime doesn't pay!
@Lucky09 (1763)
• Philippines
18 Oct 09
lol to "parents will pay for what their kids pick up" it's really true, however, kids go out ahead of us so we and the cashier won't notice if they have picked up something or not... so it's really their fault.
@Lucky09 (1763)
• Philippines
18 Oct 09
oh and crime doesn't pay hahahaha... guess this applies only for these innocent kids. i hope they won't grow with it
@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
19 Oct 09
Actually I think a lot of people have had this happen when their kids are younger and it is hard for them to understand that this is wrong. The thing to make sure and teach them that this wrong so they will not be doing it as they get older and eventually get caught and get themselves and you in Big trouble as well. It just amazes me sometimes how most of the time especially with Candy most kids who do this never think anything wrong because it is candy and it's sitting right there for you to grab.
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• Spain
19 Oct 09
Hello Krause. It seems to be a phase all children go through, and I think the stores must take some of the blame for putting sweets at child level. Marketing psychology relies on the probability that the parent will just pay for the goods rather than risk a scene, and it's all in the name of profit. Chloe realises she shouldn't have taken the sweets, as her daddy confiscated them, but of course she's too young to understand WHY she was wrong to take them. She sees her parents take things from the shelves, and therefore it's okay for her to do it.
@crys7881 (249)
• United States
18 Oct 09
Oh my I would bo totally embarassed if my kids stole sometihng from a store! When they ask for something I don't want them to have, or that we can't afford I simply tell them we don't have the money for it. Thanksfully it has worked this far lol My four year old son did come home from school last week with some magnets in his pocket, why that would be a treasure I guess only a four year old would know! lol OH I forgot, he did come back from my parents house a few weeks ago with a new game for his Nintendo DS. He wouldn't admit to me where it came from but he did tell his sister! I couldn't help but laugh...they were both so excited to have a new game it was ridiculous! Bad way to get it I have to admit thought!
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• Spain
19 Oct 09
Hello, Crys. Probably, your kids are just that bit older and can grasp the simple concept of right and wrong. Chloe is still very much an 'I want so I'm going to havi it' girl, although she's very cute with it and not a bit spoilt, despite the best efforts of two sets of doting grandparents! Magnets is a boy thing, I'm sure. Does not telling you where the Nintendo game came from mean your son is turning into a man of mystery, I wonder? I presume he thought he'd 'borrowed' the game.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
18 Oct 09
Hello Sandra, fun story. 'Fraid I can't give you any here though. The only thing is wondering how to get the paid for by others things through the checkout sometimes. The headmaster is shopping at the same time always insists on buying a large bar of choclate for my son and he pays for it and tells the person on the till, but then leaves before us, and sometimes they try to charge again for the choclate. Not really the same.
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• Spain
18 Oct 09
No, Thea, that's Greek enterprise at work! This sort of thing happens here as well - they're a lot more relaxed about everything in the Mediterranean countries. My son didn't go back - he was too embarrassed - but he did take the sweets away from her, as she'd been told she couldn't have them. She screamed all the way home, as she's a bit young to understand the rights and wrongs of shoplifting.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
18 Oct 09
Well he's only got himself to blame. I told my son that sweets were onions and I don't think he touched one for years - that was my bid to save his teeth. Unfortunately he's discovered them now. Sweets and chocolates aren't allowed in school so I always find it ridiculous that the headmaster is the first to break the rules out of school.
@happy6162 (3001)
• United States
19 Oct 09
If my son wanted something and I told him know and to put it back he always did. I know this because I always watch him to make sure he put it back or I would take it myself and put it back. When kids are just 2 or 3 they do not know that you have to pay for things. You can tell them but they do not understand all they know is that they want it.
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• Spain
19 Oct 09
Hello, Happy. You've just made me realise that kids today are used to self service shopping, and a toddler is only going to see half of the picture. Mummy takes what she wants from the shelves, so they can too. Of course, Chloe is too young to understand the concept of payment, although she knows what money is, as every time she finds a coin lying around, it goes straight into her piggy bank!
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
18 Oct 09
My son did this just the other day, on the day before he had his third birthday. My sister-in-law and her two daughters as well as myself and my two children went out shopping. Paul was in the stroller because we'd been out earlier in the day and he had been all over the store and I refused to go through that again. We had picked out his Halloween costume and he refused to let me take it out of the stroller with him. So, I handed the cashier the tag from it and didn't think any more of it, I'd paid for the costume at least. Well, when we went to get in the car, I discovered that he also had a shirt in the stroller with him that I hadn't chosen. Then, when we got home, I realized that in our bag was an extra hat that I hadn't intended to buy. He'd chosen a hat while at the store and it didn't have a tag on it, so I'd grabbed another for the cashier to scan and she'd handed Paul back his hat after she'd scanned the other and then put the one that she'd scanned into the bag. I honestly think all kids do shoplift at some point or another when they are too young to realize that they are doing something wrong.
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• Spain
18 Oct 09
It must be something about 2 and 3 year olds, I think. Good job Fagin was a fictional character, or we'd have gangs of theiving children everywhere! I agree they do it because they don't realise what they're doing is wrong. Because we tend to give them almost everything they want, they see it as their due.
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@seanbryan (349)
• United Arab Emirates
18 Oct 09
Hi sandra, My mother has always been on a sari sari store business since our childhood days and even up to now. I have two nephews and one niece, the youngest boy was 3 years old at the time when he was caught by my aunt eating chocolates inside our bedroom. At fisrt she noticed that the bottle of chocolates from the shelf is gone and she thought that somebody from outside had taken it when she opened the small window wherein she hands on the goods and takes the money from the customer. After a while she went inside the bedroom to take something and find my nephew with the big bottle of chocolates half finished. She did ask why he did that and he answered, "if i'm asking you won't give me so i take it out without your permission". It was really awful, but we laughed on the thought of how a 3 year old kid can think of such. But my aunt had explained to him why he ought not to eat chocolates, he's front teeth is all rotten and it's because of eating candies. Good Day!
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• Spain
18 Oct 09
Hello, it's really scary that a 3 year old can reason all that out, isn't it? Still, he hasn't gone unpunished, if his teeth are bad. Can we pinpoint that 3 is the age when children can distinguish right from wrong, or do you think your nephew was ahead of the game?
• United Arab Emirates
19 Oct 09
Hi sandra, I guess a three year old kid cannot distinguish between right or wrong yet, what he is up to is just the urge of eating sweets as it pleases him. Though the kid is a bit ahead of his age and he had grown to be smart as manifested by his excellence in school. Yes that time, instead of punishing him my aunt did tell him not to do it anymore at it will not do any good to him, from then on he has to ask and she will give him but a piece or two would be enough. Good that it was only from home otherwise if it will be from outside it will be an embarassment.
@junmae (1586)
• Philippines
19 Oct 09
I think in a 2 year old child it is ok, but older is bad and cannot be tolerated. It is ok in a child to do that because she doesnt know what she do.
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• Spain
19 Oct 09
Yes, you're right. Chloe's too young to understand, but her parents will be on the lookout now, and will make sure it doesn't happen again. I did suggest that when they do small amounts of shopping, and pay by cash, they should allow Chloe to pay for it, so that she realises that when you take something from a shop, it must be paid for before you leave.
• United States
18 Oct 09
Its nothing to be embarassed about, as long as you go back and pay the people! I'd feel less guilty knowing that it was a young child who didn't know better.
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• Spain
18 Oct 09
Hello, and welcome to Mylot. My son was too embarrassed to go back and explain, but he did take the sweets from her. They'll be much more careful in future, though.
@cher913 (25782)
• Canada
18 Oct 09
my daughter did that when she was 3 too. i am sure she didnt realize it that taking things that dont belong to you is bad and we did take her back to the store and explained to the owner what had happened. i am sure she doesnt even remember the incident at all! (she is now 16).
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@aerous (13434)
• Philippines
20 Oct 09
We have no shoplifter in our family. Because we know that is against our customs. We are educated by our parents not to shoplift or to rob. That is really bad my friend most especially when parents know about that and they are not warn the kid that doing such thing is bad or evil...Have a nice day!
@aerous (13434)
• Philippines
21 Oct 09
Yup! My friend that is really a shocking to note that a 2 year old kid doing that. How if that kid being grow and that habit is retain. I think is a great lupin in the history (lupin a great robber in the cartoon movies)...have a nice day!
• Spain
20 Oct 09
It's against our customs as well, and I really don't see how you can expect a two year old to understand the concept of evil. The child is only just starting to speak in whole sentences. Did you read all through the topic before responding? Just curious, as you seem to be out on your own with your response.
@nagikka (407)
• Italy
18 Oct 09
My parents always told me that when I was a kid I was always trying to steal chocolate from both stores and people's houses lol I used to hide everything in my pockets but eventually gave it up. My teacher of children litterature said that it takes a long time for kids to learn to distinguish between what's good and what's bad, so I wouldn't worry too much since your Chloe is only two :)
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• Spain
18 Oct 09
I'm not at all worried - as you say, she's too young to understand, if she sees something she wants, she doesn't see why she shouldn't have it. It gave us all a good laugh, and we'll have something to embarrass her with when she brings her first boyfriend home!
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@jugsjugs (12967)
18 Oct 09
My friends son shop lifts,but she says it is his friend doing it.If i caught my child doing that i would take the child back into the shop and make them return what ever they had taken as well as make them say sorry,that way perhaps they would never do it again.They must be taught from an early age as when they get older they will carry on shop lifting.
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• Spain
18 Oct 09
I'm with you there, and it sounds as if your friend is in denial about her son's behaviour. Chloe wasn't allowed to keep the sweets, so hopefully she realises she can't just take what she wants, even if she's too young to understand why.
• Philippines
18 Oct 09
hello sandra, The only stuff that i used to steal was my moms pocket money to buy big robotsbut that was long ago, i wasn't busted officially but my mom was giving a hint that she'd capture if i do it again. with regards to your discussion, i have encountered several temptations about me looting on the store, but i always resisted, because i don't wanna have it in my conscience.
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• Spain
18 Oct 09
Hello, Letran. You've got me worried now, because whenever Chloe finds coins, she shouts 'Mine!' and puts it in her piggy bank, so I think I have a career criminal for a granddaughter! Once we're old enough to know right from wrong, conscience comes into it and stops most of us. We laughed over this, but we won't be laughing if she's doing that sort of stuff ten years down the line.
18 Oct 09
I don't have children but my younger sister has done this. She has done it a lot to the point where my mother would have to put all her shopping bags down and take my sister out of the pram and search her before they left the store. My sister stole sweets and chocolate and once a magazine. She got into so much trouble that she hasn't done it since.
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• Spain
18 Oct 09
Well, at least we haven't got to the point of searching Chloe before we leave the store, so there's still hope for us! At least your sister learned her lesson, so that's the main thing. It's only funny when they don't realise what they're doing is wrong, isn't it?