Mylotter's who say very little in discussions

@SomeCowgirl (32191)
United States
October 20, 2009 9:02pm CST
I haven't made a discussion in this interest in awhile. To be honest I was going to wait to see if this person would ever accept my friend's request but they may either never accept it or be deleted before they can. This person actually started a discussion in mine and my husband's personal category but the discussion has been deleted... In any case, I was wanting all of the mylotters to pull together and make a big list of why you should write more in a discussion. Of course, obviously it helps all of us understand what you want to know, what you've found out, or what you want to convey in the discussion, and of course it helps us earn more money... But please think of more ideas and ways so that we can help the newer members why more writing is better. I am personally getting annoyed by seeing so many discussions with little content, and that are constantly being deleted by mylot... WHICH YAY Mylot on that part, but what I mean is instead of seeing these discussions at all, we should encourage everyone to write as much as they can. Those that have English as Their Second Language, don't feel shy, ask if you don't understand but do your best to explain... I know I will personally help anyone who would liek to seek my help in understanding either something I've said, or something someone else has said... To make this more of a discussion, Do you like this idea? DON'T FORGET TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE BY EXPLAINING WHY IT'S BETTER TO WRITE MORE IN A DISCUSSION.
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@hellcowboy (7374)
• United States
21 Oct 09
This is a good discussion Baby,I know about the person you are referring too and they probably will never accept your friends request if they do not get deleted first,and yeah I know they started a discussion in our personal interest,and yeah you told me that the discussion had been deleted,and I agree with you and think it is a good idea for all mylotters to pull together and make a list of why people should write more in a discussion,and it does help with making money but this site is not purely about money and it also helps each of us know what others are saying,and I am also getting tired of it and I wish there was a way for experience mylotters to take newbies under their wing and show them the ropes so they learn the rules,and make things easier for everyone,and the only other thing is to keep telling newbies to read the guidelines,I love you with all of my heart and soul,have a great day,good luck with your life,and all of your mylotting goals,and Happy Posting.
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
21 Oct 09
There are a few mylotters who do a lot to help the newbies out, or to help the community out. I know that I also try to help from time to time but I think more of us need to help as well. I've seen discussions where newbies are thinking that the older members just do not like them because we don't accept their friend's request but we most often don't because of how little they type, or for them violating guidelines.
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• Philippines
21 Oct 09
Wow! I should be taking note of this more often since I do have the tendency to accept friend requests in fear of not hurting someone's feelings or it becoming an insult to them if I did reject their friend request. But i guess you are right on there, it is better if we want to improve our mylot experience to choose our friends wisely.
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• United States
21 Oct 09
I am sure there probably are mylotters who help out the newbies,and yeah we need to act like a community and help out each other more,and yeah some of the newbies probably do think we do not like them because we do not accept their friends request,when really it is because we do not know how much they will type,or if they are following the guidelines ,since it seems like a lot of people do not follow the guidelines,I love you with all of my heart and soul,have a great day,good luck with all of your mylotting goals,and Happy Posting Baby.
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
21 Oct 09
I am one of the many that English in the second language. And that really makes me hesitant to write more. But as you said, "don't feel shy". And that's what I am doing here, I explain a lot if I can't translate in English what I wish to tell. And I don't forget to ask about it. That most of the time would turn my ideas into a discussion.
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
21 Oct 09
I do so admire all of those like you Neil who come here and use a language that is not their own It is very difficult to realise that you are not a native and I know I do not get things across as well as you do on many occasions even though I ought to know it much better
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
22 Oct 09
The key is to try and always ask, and yes don't feel shy. Your English is admirable, I understood you very well. I am glad that you type more if your not sure how to explain it in English, I find the more I read the more I understand! lol!
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
22 Oct 09
and that's one reason i stay longer here on mylot than any other paying/writing sites. my english is improving. thanks to both of you, mysd and cowgirl.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
21 Oct 09
Oh I think it is a great idea. I have replied to discussions that don't disclose all the information needed to give a helpful answer. Sometimes the lack of information can lead to false assumptions as to what the poster was intending to say. It is these sort of misunderstandings that can easily lead to heated exchanges which leads to discussions being eliminated. Of course, no matter how detailed we try to be there is the chance of being misunderstood or also we could leave out something important that adds to the discussion. The thing is that the more detailed our discussion is the less likely this is to happen.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
21 Oct 09
Uh oh and here comes the queen of brevity. lol Why do you think the person's discussion was deleted? Repetitive topic or something else? Anyway, if you want to encourage the new people, I'd say encourage them to read the guidelines, to try to be original, to try to be clear (which can sometimes be done in few words and other times not) and to try to interact with the people who come and respond to their discussions. More writing is good if it helps to explain what the person is trying to talk about and not so good if it's just a bunch of filler designed to help them earn more without actually saying anything. Cheesecake?
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
21 Oct 09
I am not quite sure why the person's discussion was deleted to be honest, I don't believe I reported it, I even asked myself that question as I was making this discussion... Ah, and your response wasn't short at all (side note: That is what brevity means right?)... Read those guidelines, definitely a good suggestion to keep mylot afloat without weighing down so many "filler" or "non-discussions", Responses or Comments". Cheesecake, I was actually going to have some at Golden Corral the other day, haven't had any in quite awhile.
• United States
21 Oct 09
I think that some people might think that if they write a long discussion, then people might not read it and respond to it. Some people are focused on making as much money on here as possible, and reading takes time away from responding, which means that they can't earn as much in a day. What they don't realize is that longer discussions give responders more to say and talk about in their response. Nobody knows the formula for sure, but I am pretty confident that longer responses earn more than several shorter ones. That means that not only can they can earn more by starting a longer discussion that generates longer responses but also they will draw more people in to respond, since it is rather difficult to really capture a lot of people's interest with only one or two sentences. Then, if they reply back to all the responders, they not only earn even more money but the discussion becomes more interesting. Before they know it, they will be having fun discussing whatever and not even think about how much money they are earning. I really enjoy coming here and socializing. I think it is wonderful that I can earn money just to talk and have fun. The money becomes secondary when you have good friends that you interact with on a regular basis. One of the best ways to develop friendships on here is to not only respond to discussions but also start interesting discussions that other people can respond to. The more time and information you put into your discussion topic, the more people will be able to relate to at least one aspect of the discussion, so it will generate more responses. This makes it more fun and interesting for everyone, especially when other people start commenting and adding on to everyone else's responses.
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
22 Oct 09
To be honest I've gone through phases where I like longer repsonses, then don't, then do, then don't. I do agree though that it has a lot of benefits, I mean the longer the response, comment or discussion is the more there is to write about. The more there is to comment on, and the more fun there is to be had... I've often found myself forgetting about the money and just having fun, so I wholeheartedly agree with you there. Sometimes it's hard to think of things to say, but that's where other's comments come in handy... You can always feed off of them for more to say, or go and comment on another response, I've started to really like that.
• United States
22 Oct 09
Yes, I tend to comment on other people's responses more than make my own responses, but I try to do both. It just seems to be more fun and interactive when you start commenting on other people's comments. The down side of that, though, is that it is easy to go off-topic quickly, and some people get angry about that, so I try to be respectful while still having fun. I have heard a lot of people say that they come here for the fun and the money is just an added bonus. I didn't believe it at first, but I have definitely changed my outlook on that one. I really do come here to have fun, and I get surprised when I look and see how much money I have earned by just enjoying myself with friends. That is something that new people on here should try to understand, because it will help them out in the long run.
@ybong007 (6643)
• Philippines
21 Oct 09
I'm one of those who use English as a second language. Although I log in at Mylot almost everyday there are times that i just ran out of ideas; sometimes English words (LOL)that i tend to limit my contributions to just a few sentences. Cheers!
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
21 Oct 09
That even happens to those who are used to using English so don't worry! I am English but I don't use English offline very mush as I have lived in Italy for over thirty years. I forget how to say the most obvious things in English just for that reason, Just try as hard as you can and by reading a lot here it will all become clearer to you I'm sure Happy Lotting!
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
22 Oct 09
As mysdianait, it happens to all of us regardless of our knowledge of the English Language. I am an American, so I speak English daily but still find myself getting confused or misunderstanding. The best advice I can give you is to just work through it, and ask questions if you don't understand what a person is saying.
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@ybong007 (6643)
• Philippines
22 Oct 09
Thanks for the encouragement! I'll do my best. Cheers!
@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
21 Oct 09
Many of my friends here, including you, are aware that I give the new users priorty. Not only with the advice I dish out but also with 'pushing' some of them to get on the boards and post. Some are toos hy just like you suggest and they need prompting to post just a little bit more. So I stick to some of them like glue. They respond and I comment and leave something that they have to get back to comment on again - and then I go back and annoy them even more When they realise that I am doing it for them, they then pluck up the courage to broaden their horizons and go and respond elsewhere or start a discussion of their own and I'm there too and many other Lotters will notice them and then off they go.... We need the new users just as much as they need us, the regular Lotters. They can bring a breath of fresh air to the Lot and I have no hesitation in adding them (unless they are only here to promote their sites which is obvious right from their first post). Several are scared to post becuase they have problems getting their meanings across but once they realise thattheyar enot alone here then they join in. One of my favourites does not write perfectly but I admire her sooooo much because she is here almost every day with some really thought provoking discussions and she always gets back to comment with her smile I hope many will have the time to read your topic SC because it is so full of positives and so worth thinking about and acting on!
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• United States
22 Oct 09
Hmmm ... MysD, I'm not sure whether to be flattered or offended, because you never did that with me. I guess it's because I can't keep my big mouth shut (or rather my fat fingers off the keyboard?), so I didn't need any prompting and just jumped right in. Seriously, though, I did notice pretty quickly when I started that you take the time to point the newer members in the right direction and give them helpful suggestions and little motivating pushes, and I think it is wonderful.
@minx267 (15527)
• Hartford, Connecticut
21 Oct 09
Yes, I too get annoyed with the one-liners either in discussion or response. They are very bothersome and I think someone should help out the newbies to let them know that not only are they going to illicit poor responses to a discussion that doesn't ask much. The more precise you can be in phrasing your discussion the better your responses will be. Ask questions in your discussion. Ask for opinions on more than one matter. This will make your discussion not only more lengthy but give more people a reason to respond. I try to answer discussions a s best I can - an I try not to abbreviate too much- not only will make my response longer it will also make it clearer- I really hate all that texting lingo. some is ok - like LOL, but please spell out your or you're and don't put ur.. leave that kind of stuff on you cell where it belongs. That is my 2 cents. :)
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
21 Oct 09
Hello Amber, I'm glad that I alerted you to that discussion set up in your interest as it did rather strike as an odd place to put it so I'm glad it got deleted even though I wasted my time responding to it simply to ask and not receive an answer as to why it was sitting in your interest which is a nice friendly interest. I can't see why you would want that person on your friends list as when I checked yesterday he had posted about 20 one liner discussions and he was not new anyway but had well over a hundered posts. Now I'll help out a few specific newbies who have interesting things to say but haven't yet caught on to the art of mylotting but most I don't bother with as there are already many here who spend their days doing that. I did respond to a newbie yesterday by advising him he ought to respond to everyone in his discussion and he responded to me and accused me of being crazy and jealous of the number of responses he had received. Quite, is the only thing to say to that one, but it didn't influence as the bulk remain unanswered and two new discussions have appeared since.
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
22 Oct 09
I merely wanted to befriend him to send him a private message letting him know that he made a discussion in my interest, then later I Wanted to befriend him so as to help him. Now I did send a message but haven't gotten a response. I don't bother too much with helping users out but those I feel will not respond back in a hostile manner I will try to help. The person you speak of who accused you of being jealous either misunderstood what you meant, or could care little as to the responders and just wants the money he gets off of the original response. He must not realize that that won't get him much money at all, and he may be amongst the ones who doesn't accept help, gets frustrated and leaves... hmm... oh well to each their own.
@Sandra1952 (6047)
• Spain
21 Oct 09
I always go into dscussions by new members, and try to encourage them without being patronising. However, if they don't comment back, there's not a lot you can do. Personally, I'd like to see a bit of 'Mylot Basic Training,' although I don't know if that would be practical. My idea is, before they get to post real discussion topics, new members do some practice ones, in which their mistakes are pointed out to them. Or at least, a multiple choice thing, where they are shown say 4 responses, 3 guideline violations and one legitimate response, and asked to pick the good one. If they pick a violation, they'd be told why it was unacceptable. I know we all say 'read the guidelines,' but we know it just doesn't happen. Most new members join because they want to earn, and they see time spent reading guidelines as a wasted earning opportunity. If only we could get across that it's time well spent!
@voldrox (7191)
• India
21 Oct 09
Hi Somecowgirl You are right we need to post bigger and meaningful responses, it helps in all ways, firstly the discussion starter would be happy to go through the long response, put in as much information about the discussion as much you know of and explain them all in a simple manner so that no matter the discussion starter is a native English speaker or not he/she doesn't have a problem understanding what is written in the post, long and simple posts giving detailed information in a proper sequence as well, and of course all in relation to the discussion, if their are some nice examples to help understand better than put them as well... all this should help post bigger and meaningful posts that will be entertained by all and also help earn more, English is my second language but i hope you all can understand me well enough... anyways have a nice day Somecowgirl!
@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
21 Oct 09
This is absurd! You use it better than a lot of us who should know it perfectly
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@voldrox (7191)
• India
23 Oct 09
Hi mysdianait! Oh dear, i guess i say more than i actually post!
@JohnJeff (720)
• Malaysia
21 Oct 09
I think there is little bit misunderstanding here.Some mylotters thought more discussion get more money,some said more post more money.So they tried to submit more discussion.In order to save time they write few paragraph.So they can concentrate other task like completed mylot task or give response.I thought nobody want to read the long story.
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
22 Oct 09
Au Contraire, wow I haven't said or typed that in awhile... If at all typed it. In any case, there is a lot of differentiating opinions what makes more money, but the bottom line is to just have fun... The more content you put into a discussion,response or comment the better. Which means, repeating yourself in the same comment is generally bad, as well as writing very little. I'd say a minimum of four lines as a rule. Have fun here!
• Philippines
21 Oct 09
Since I'm a newbie again I havent started any discussion yet. I don't have one in mind right now so I prefer to reply to those discussions that interests me. I too have trouble in speaking English but I'm trying my best to say things that will help those who needs responses on their discussions. Informative posts is what we need here. Actually you've got a nice point of view here and we really should encourage everyone to express themselves and I'll do my best on my part to understand them provided that its in English form. I will also do my best to reply to them with more information that could help the discussion and so as the readers. I think this is a great practice too in speaking English eventhough we are typing. And I thank the developers of Mylot because they have done a great job working on this kind of site that we dont only earn but we get knowledge. Thank you.