Religion and science -- are they ever compatible (in agreement)?

United States
October 26, 2009 3:45pm CST
Some people think that religion and science are not compatible, that they are like two opposing forces that cannot be in agreement. And yet, there are quite a few scientists that believe in God or embrace a particular religion. Using your own knowledge and common sense, do you think religion and science are total opposites? Why or why not? I'm looking forward to your responses! Karen
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@olepmis (840)
• Philippines
28 Oct 09
Most religions based their beliefs on God's Words, the Holy Bible which tells of the moons and the stars, the creations in the whole earth. Therefore religions and science are compatible. It is different only or opposite to each other depending on individuals interpretation of the Holy Bible.
• United States
28 Oct 09
Hi Olepmis. That's a good explanation, and like you, I do think they are compatible, but approached from different angles. Thank you for responding :) Karen
@aerous (13434)
• Philippines
26 Oct 09
Hello Karen, Before I continue commenting in your discussion. like first to take this opportunity to say hello to you, my dear good friend. If we read the Bible. We find out that God, tell everything what is really happen in this world. Even the spread of wisdom, the discovery of earth that is round in shape and creation of advance technology is prophesied in the Bible and God said those things is happen... I don't agree that religion and science is opposites each other because science is one of the God, words that people discover those wisdom that implore to our advancement in technology because all of those words much fulfill before God, set his hand to end this world... What I oppose that religion against is that those scientist don't believe in God. Like Darwin that say man is not created by God...but from apes or anything else. Other says there is no God...While we know that God, is really that exist... How can we know that there is God?
@aerous (13434)
• Philippines
27 Oct 09
I know that most of the scientist want to disprove the Bible and the existence of God...They are not reach any concrete conclusion that God, is not the creature of this world...If any scientist will create a universe I think they are disprove the bible says that God, is the sole creature of this world. If they are not create any solar systems or if they cannot create sun on their own knowledge. I think they should stop doing that they disprove the wisdom of God... Do you have any information from the previous history in our universe that there is a scientist that create universe? Even this scientist name "Darwin"... That says man is from apes? So if he is really true in his conclusion. Why until today there is an apes or monkey and those animals did not became human...Did you heard if there is monkey in that zoo that at ages and generation they became human...none, right? So I guess those scientist should focus only in the discovery of more solar systems because the bible or God itself say that wisdom will be on this era... A great to make good discussion to you, again...Have a nice day and take care
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• United States
27 Oct 09
You make such sense. No scientist has yet, nor will one ever, create anything that comes close to what God himself has been able to do. And many times, like you, I've asked regarding the ape/man theory...okay, so why doesn't the evolving continue? Why haven't apes OR humans yet in thousands of years even remotely "turn" into something else? Karen
• United States
27 Oct 09
Aerous, my friend, so nice to see you :) I do believe, too, that in many instances, science IS in the Bible...the constellations, the perfect order of day and night, over and over...what beautiful workings are nature and the body, mind, and soul that our Creator have given us. I mentioned earlier in this discussion that some scientists have set out to disprove the Bible, God, and creation by Him, and to their amazement, their research to do so has merely led them TO God. Isn't that a beautiful thing? Karen
@manong05 (5027)
• Philippines
27 Oct 09
Science and religion are not opposites. Religions are basically teachings and precepts on how should people live their lives. There is nothing that is contradicting scientific established facts. In many cases religions antedate modern science which is just beginning to appreciate the truths that religion teaches. The road to knowledge or reality is either through the cognitive or intuitive paths and both arrive at the same destination. Yes, they are compatible. There may be "seeming" contradictions but this is only due to limited understanding and as soon as they are understood, the "seeming" contradictions disappear.
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• India
27 Oct 09
Yes. I think since the author of both the world and the Word is God, there cannot be contradiction. The contradictions may be due to improper interpretations. If we get right interpretation of both the world and the Word then I think there will be no contradiction.
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• United States
27 Oct 09
Hi Manong...I also feel that as the decades pass, the field of science does tend to better appreciate the truths of religion. Many atheist scientists, via their own discoveries, have made believers of themselves. "Seeming"...a very important keyword when exploring almost anything. Thank you for your input. Karen
• United States
27 Oct 09
Headhunter, you make an excellent point!
@shobhan51 (376)
• Malaysia
27 Oct 09
Those who think that religion and science are not compatible, are wrong. Being a science teacher, I have colleagues, especially those teaching physics, who are really involved in religious knowledge. Some have even left teaching science to go into theology and are totally immersed in religion and God. This is because knowledge in science is slowly opening mysteries of the universe. I am also of the opinion that God is the creator of the universe and all matter, (living and non-living) and energy are the Almighty's invention. The Almighty is the SCIENTIST of all scientists.
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• Malaysia
28 Oct 09
Thanks starsailover and peacefulWmn, for your comments. Yes, since God is the scientist and creator of the Universe, those in the field of science and technology are actually learning from God about His creation, then using that knowledge to develop their own creations in technology. Everything in technology is based on the basic scientific principles laid out by God.
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• United States
27 Oct 09
Hello Shobhan. I share your own opinion the God is, indeed, the scientist of all scientists. I've read of the scientists, who by their very interest and research in their own field, have come to embrace the tenets of creation. This tells me that science and religion are not as far removed from one another a some might think. Karen
• Mexico
27 Oct 09
Hi shobhan: I'm glad to know that you're a science teacher and you don't disapproved religion. I think there should not exist a conflict between religion and science. If it exists it's because of intolerance and disrespecteful attitudes of both religion leaders and scientific figures what make us think you can be a scientist and a religious person.
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@1hopefulman (45123)
• Canada
18 Nov 09
I would like to put it this way: religious truth and true science cannot be otherwise than compatible. However there is much untruth in religion as there is in science and here lies the problem. True religion and false science are not compatible as false religion and true science are not either.
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@1hopefulman (45123)
• Canada
21 Nov 09
I like your openmindedness! Sadly religions have thought and still teach many stupidities (like the earth was created in six literal twenty-four hour days) therefore these ideas find no confirmation in Science.
• United States
20 Nov 09
Very good points that I hadn't considered. I love looking at things from various perspectives, so I thank you for offering yours. Good food for thought! Karen
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@eileenleyva (27562)
• Philippines
27 Oct 09
Hi PeacefulWmn9, I am Catholic and I don't see a point of argument about science and religion. Science is a field that answers human queries the empirical way. The fundamentals are set by deductive reasoning. Religion, however, deals about faith and relationship with the great Creator of heaven and earth.
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• United States
27 Oct 09
Hi Eileen. I am a Christian, and I believe both science and "religion" deal with creation, science to some degree, and as you said, from a point of what they can "see" or prove. And also yes, you and I believe by faith, with the mind, heart, and entire spirit. Thank you for voicing your opinion, and have a beautiful week. Karen
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• United States
28 Oct 09
I also enjoyed science classes, but like you, felt no need to prove God's existence in this manner. The experiments were always fun, educational! Karen
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@eileenleyva (27562)
• Philippines
28 Oct 09
I enjoyed science in school. The hypotheses we formulated for our experiments were truly exciting. We had proven many things in the lab. But I really never saw the point in proving the existence of God the scientific way.
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• India
27 Oct 09
Religion and science are always in agreement. I do not know about other religions, but some of our religious practices are always compatible with science. I can give a lot of examples, but then this discussion will become boring. Sufficient to say, that Religion and science are always compatible.
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• India
27 Oct 09
I forgot to add that I am from Hindu religion.
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• United States
27 Oct 09
Hello Remeshkumaar. I agree that science and religion are not at odds but rather complement one another in many ways. I'm sure your adding examples would have added to the interest here, rather than making it boring :)) Have a good evening, Karen
@Harley009 (1416)
• India
30 Oct 09
I can't say about all religions... Let me say about Islam. Islam and science are always compatible and are good friends. Islam never conflict with any of the established facts of the modern science. Many of the verses from Quran was proved by science, While Quran stated them 1400 hundred years ago. We use science and technology for the good of Islam, and give good to science and technology as well. Islam always promote to learn, think and experience the past.
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• United States
30 Oct 09
Hi Harley. I am of the Christian faith, and as you have stated about your Quran, I believe the same is true of my Bible. Much of what is in it has been bourne out by scientific study, hence, I do believe religion and science can be "friends" rather than "enemies." Karen
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• United States
28 Oct 09
I believe science proves the existence of God. Because of scientific experiments, discoveries have been made that prove there had to have been an intelligent designer behind all of nature. There are creatures from nature that could not have evolved because they have components that have to work together, so could not have evolved separately. Two of those creatures are the bombardier beetle and the giraffe. The more science discovers, the more evidence that God exists and created all things.
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• United States
30 Oct 09
Hi Precious. I agree with you. Nature, the universe, the intricate workings and design of it and of people are all the "proof" I've ever needed that God exists. And yes, many scientists have actually converted themselves into believing that there is indeed a higher power by nature of what they've discovered in their field. Theories, of course, are not fact. I fail to see how of a "big bang" came such an intricate and well-ordered universe. And as to the theory of evolution, how can something come of nothing? And since something had to originally been here TO evolve, where did those original cells come from? Thank you for your response. Karen
@Frederick42 (2024)
• Canada
28 Oct 09
No, religion and science are never compatible, although people may think so. Science is that which experiemnts and even proves. For example, law of gravitation. You can see an apple falling from the tree. Science is something which does it best to experiemnt. Believing wiithot experiemnting has no room in science. For that which has not yet been proved, it is a theory. On the other hand, religion is a set of beliefs. Not necessarily facts. Since there are so many relions and so many concepts of God, there is no way to prove anything. Religion depends on faith or belief whereas science on experimentation.
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• United States
28 Oct 09
Hi Frederick. I think for those of us who do believe, nature and the intricate workings of mankind and the universe are "facts." Very visible with no concrete explanation labeled other THAN theory. It also seems that one scientific study proves a "fact" which another disproves...a bit confusing in that sense, but I do see your point and appreciate your input :)) Karen
@May2k8 (18049)
• Indonesia
28 Oct 09
humans have a mind and thoughts and that all god are created, because nothing is more perfect than humans. Therefore, some scientists claimed that they did not believe in a god who does everything. As has been written in a book that became guide for all beings and we can learn from what we see and hear. Because they only think about what they want and not think about who their creator then I think religion and science are not compatible.
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@1hopefulman (45123)
• Canada
21 Nov 09
You made me think of our reproductive organs. Do they demonstrate intelligent design or unitelligent design? They are practical, they give us pleasure, and they transmit life. A series of unintelligent blind modifications? I don't think so! Romans 1:18-22 (New International Version) 18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. 21For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools.
• United States
30 Oct 09
I agree May. We are so beautifully made, so intricate, as is everything in the entire universe. There has to be a creator...nothing as beautiful as life originated by accident. It's all too perfect. And from what I've discovered I DO believe science and religion are compatible. Some say science is facts and religion is not, yet many things in the Bible can be historically proven to be fact. Karen
@bird123 (10632)
• United States
28 Oct 09
It all starts with beliefs. Even science starts with the belief that something is true. Religion accepts beliefs while science tries to prove or disprove whether beliefs are true or not.Since all beliefs are not true, to be accepting is to close your eyes to the real truth. God and everything about God will always add up just like the physics in this physical world. Science and scientists are walking toward God whether they realize it or not. Religion is always wanting to place God in a box, a nice little package that can be memorized. God can not be placed in a box.As in science, a discovery just leads to more knowledge and more questions. God is like this. The more you learn about God; the more questions and knowledge there is left to discover. Those who claim to be experts on God really do not have a clue.
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• United States
28 Oct 09
Hello Bird. I hadn't thought of it that way...but yes, everything does begin as a thought, a belief, a question or idea. And when it comes to the scientific study of certain things and elements, yes, the facts and conclusions drawn are indeed supportive of much that is in the Bible. Thank you for your information and opinions :) Karen
@lindiebiz (1006)
• Canada
27 Oct 09
I think religion and science are not compatible. In as much as some scientists believe in God, some dont and some theories and principles are not in line with Gods word because Gods ways are not the same as ours so i dont believe religion and science are compatible
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• United States
27 Oct 09
Hi Lindiebiz. Many think that science and religion are too far removed from one another to be compatible, as you do. Others, like myself, see a great connection between the two. All opinions apprecitated here, though, and I thank you for posting yours :) Have a lovely night. Karen
@mdaazam (826)
• Indore, India
26 Oct 09
Hi peaceful , Religion and science are the same things , the difference is that science is too young to understand . Actually i think science is on its way to where our religion stands . One day science will too meet god and will tell us some equations for worshipping god ! Good luck
• United States
26 Oct 09
Hello Mdaazam. What an accurate and easily understandable way to put it. I agree that they both "seek" the same answers in many respects, and yes, compared to religion and faith, science IS relatively young. Thank you for such a good response! Karen
@mdaazam (826)
• Indore, India
29 Dec 09
Your most welcome and thanks for such a warm appreciation. Regards and do stay in touch
@Ravenladyj (22904)
• United States
27 Oct 09
Using your own knowledge and common sense, do you think religion and science are total opposites? Why or why not? I dont think they are total opposites..but that could be becaues IMO they are to different areas of life...they are different but two different things can very much work together.....Do I htink they can be compatible..absolutely! But maybe not for everyone...obviously for some though since as you said there are scientists who are religious....
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• United States
27 Oct 09
Hello Raven. Yes, they are different areas that explore different avenues. I've read of many examples where they have indeed worked together. In many respects, from a Christian perspective, science explores and seeks to figure out what God has created. To make the advances, say in areas of technology and medicine, that have been made, they use the innate skills and intelligence put by God into the human brain and within the human reach. Thank you for responding. Karen
@dpk262006 (58675)
• Delhi, India
27 Oct 09
Hi Karen! Religion and science are inter-linked on one hand and these two are unrelated to each other many a times. Religion means what is followed by us and it is our personal faith and practice to reach the Great God. However, science is a kind of ‘research’ and practical knowledge and truth, which we face in our day-to-day lives. Many scientists believing that there exist God, is apparently their personal faith in God, it has nothing to do with the scientific research, I suppose.
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• United States
27 Oct 09
Hello again, my friend. Yes, they are inter-linked, but with two different approaches. I was telling earlier of three scientists who years ago set out to disprove the teachings of and about God and creation, and to their own surprise, the things they discovered by scientific means made believers of them! Isn't that something? As always, you speak with wisdom, and I thank you. Bless you, Karen
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
27 Oct 09
Many people argue and believe that religion somehow goes against science. But the problem is that sometimes people get so wrapped up in logic that they get tied up in it as well. They can forget that the solution they are looking for is right in front of their eyes and doesn't require any arguments at all. Religion is man made beliefs and so is modern technologies. Both religion and science may not be compatible but everything benefits humans in the end.
• United States
27 Oct 09
Hello Zandi. Logic, such a relative thing, yes? Many things about science and religion both seem to surpass what might be considered logical, but both do exist in certain planes on a similar premise. Even those who do not see compatibility between the two entities would tend to agree with you: both offer benefits to mankind. Karen
@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
27 Oct 09
Hi Karen, I'm not sure about most religions but some religions and certainly spirituality are perfectly compatible with science. Evolution, for example does not disprove God, and some denominations within Christianity accept the works of Darwin. Even the big bang theory does nothing to disprove God. Of course fundamentalists in all religions will disagree but not everyone in mainstream religion. I believe in God but not as a superman or an old man in the sky but rather as a universal mind or the all that is. Blessings.
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• United States
27 Oct 09
Hi Pose. I tend to agree that many scientic theories and discoveries lean toward proving the existence of a superior being, rather than disproving it. I also like the way you see God...as all emcompassing. Thank you for sharing you viewpoints. Karen
@Makro74 (591)
26 Oct 09
Hi Science are the laws of logic which attempts to explain and govern the existence of the world and the universe. Usually, they have a logic which leads to a pattern of certainty. This certainty is what solidifies a scientific answer. A theory is open ended. Religion on the other hand is largely spritual, a belief system in the unseen explained by the founding person's or scriptures of that religion. Effectively it is a code of conduct and a way of life which has no requirement of science. Religion relys its credence on its founders and its usual ultimate source is God. Science rely's on man's knowledge, historical and developing and follows through a system of development and caculations to arrive at a conclusion. Thus, since religion is spiritual, science is largely logic applied by the brain, the two, if clashed tend to be incompatible. But, they can also fit snugly with each other, if one allows it to. For example, religous people should not be unnecessary clashing fundamentals of its religion to dismiss a scientific point. And equally scientist do not need to explain away religion with a passion. Eg. Religous people have good reason to believe that the Turin shroud is authentic Jesus Christ. Yet scientists believe that it is a fake due to their methods. But on both camps, there is little understanding of how a fake can be achieved scientifically, but a greater logic explained by science that the shroud resembles Jesus's condition as he was taken down from the cross. However, the more one believes with conviction of a logical religion, then the science is also fits in to be logical. For the religion is usually evolved from the entity of God, the power of belief has many levels and far more levels are attained than a scientist could attain, yet the science once discovered or developed tends to fit with the teachings of the religion. Thus, for mankind, it boils down to interpretation and the strength of belief in both the science and the religion. This leads to a religion or a science to be compatible or incompatible.
• United States
27 Oct 09
Hello there Makro. Another excellent explanation of your take on this. It fits perfectly with my some of my own conclusions. In many ways, even given the different variants (spirit vs. logic and physical) science and religion are indeed more compatible than either side sometimes knows. Your insights are very much appreciated. Karen
• Mexico
27 Oct 09
Hi PeacefulWmn: To me they musn't be incompatible although religion is about faith and science about proves. How can't you not admire God's creation? The more you know the perfection of the earth and that you can make wonderful things with knoledge, you can help other with yourinvestigation, this must make you appreciate God's presence. But that's my personal appreciation, some scientist simply prefer not to beleive.
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• United States
27 Oct 09
Hello Star. Often enough, scientists have proven to themselves the existence of God, rather than disproving it. Everything around us, to me, shouts the existence of God. Science explores from creator-given knowledge all the things that already exist and how they may lead to bringing other things into the world to benefit mankind. Thank you for responding. Karen