USA enters Smart Grid- the future is here......

@tdemex (3540)
United States
October 27, 2009 2:46pm CST
I've been reading a lot lately about the new smart grid coming out soon. It's already being tested. You have the electric company put a special meter on your home of office, and this gives control of certain things inside to the company!( This is the key part of it) I read Whirlpool is coming out with a Smart washer and dryer next year that allows the electric company to start the cycles of these units when electrical demand is lowest, and will charge you lower rates! All appliances will soon be hooked up in this manner? All this is geared to bring down every ones bill! I know all new things are tough to swallow for some and was wondering, what's your opinion on this! Are you in? Are you out? Why do you think this? or tdemex
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13 responses
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
28 Oct 09
Energy prices are through the roof, so anything new that helps us all cut them is fine with me! It's good to see our country again introduce a new way to use modern technology! Karen
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• United States
30 Oct 09
Thank you...I'll do that!
• United States
28 Oct 09
I really think the idea is great. On paper it sounds like a win win in many situations. However, I do wonder about the logistics. What if I do not have a load of laundry in the washer when they decide to run it. I am all for change and improvement to our current system. I am willing to learn new ways of living. I do however worry when things happen to quickly because then we are left with things that do not work because they are not properly thought through. I guess I am in for experimenting with it and trying to get the kinks out before the mass market is changed.
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• United States
30 Oct 09
Thank you for the best response! Did I earn it because of my sensational ability to keep an open mind?
• United States
28 Oct 09
So...are you basically saying that once the grid is in the electric company will pretty much control when i do my laundry, dishes, take a shower, cook dinner etc???
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• United States
28 Oct 09
Well I've been hearing a LOT about the new grid but i haven't done any research on it myself so wasn't aware how it works.... It sounds ok but then most intrusive things do at first... I am all for saving energy and I have been anxious for this new grid to get started cause as you said what we have isnt that efficient.... but im not a huge fan of cotrol...lol
@tdemex (3540)
• United States
28 Oct 09
That's a simplified version, but it's not that drastic! Things like turning off your electric hot water heater from 10 pm til 4am when your not using it! But you can modify it say if you work the late shift! If your doing a load of laundry and are not in a hurry, you load it up and leave it! It will start when the demand for electric is the lowest and that will save you on your bill! This is a very simple explanation, it's more geared for the system its self. the current system for the country is 100 years old, and they are upgrading it to a digital format and taking advantage of all the new technology and inventing some new methods also! We just have to go thru a learning curve to take advantage of the new system! tdemex
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
27 Oct 09
I don't know it seems a little bit of an invasion I wouldn't want If I need to wash clothes I need to do it now not when rates are cheapest.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
31 Oct 09
Ok I'll deal with it as soon as I can still do laundry when I need to and don't have to pay for a new meter because my power company was just about to send all of it's customers 2 free "green" light bulbs for a low price of $24 (60 cents a month for 2 years). Wasn't that nice of them? I can pick up a three pack at Home Depot for about $7.99.
@ra1787 (501)
• Italy
28 Oct 09
I guess you will be free to use electricity whenever you want, you just have the option to wait until the energy price is cheaper. If you use the washer in peak hour you will probably be charged twice as much than you would have been charged in off-peak hours. I live in italy and we have the option to have electronic meters with different prices in different hours of the day. There is still no interconnection with home appliances but i think the same tariff structure will be put in place. We basically pay electricity much less in weekends and during the night. The integration should just make the whole process more flexible and automatic. For example the hours of peak and off-peak prices can be determined by the effective grid load and not ex ante. Some things so could be controlled by the grid operator so that they will use power when it is cheaper.
@ra1787 (501)
• Italy
28 Oct 09
This is a very interesting news, where i live we have electronic meters that can be remotely read and used to check power failures and varying the contract remotely. They are also used to have different prices in different hours. The possibilty to automatically linking the features of some appliances to the electric grid status is great, peak-hours load could be really lowered saving lots of money to both the consumer and the electric utility. A better control of consumption is also possible with smart meters and this can help people to better understand the wastes of energy and to use it in a better way. Smart meters are also important to integrate in a better way domestic renewable plants. Do you know the specifics of the meters they will install?
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• United States
27 Oct 09
It is hard to say about this and the cost of things these days, some people can only afford an old model of anything..I think the change can be good sometimes but lots of times it does not help those who cannot afford to buy the newer things in life. as far as electic I think they charge and do what they anyway regardless ..taxes and customer service charges are over half of my electric bills now..I think they raise rates every year and regardless of being in control is a little scary sometimes because before you know it they know everything about you even when you flush the tolet..oh yea they charge you for the meter and charge for reading the meter and now gas to come and read it...I am not so sure about this untill it is looked into further and then do they really hear what we say anyway??
@tdemex (3540)
• United States
28 Oct 09
This is bringing up the way the electric is delivered to the consumers of the country! It's bringing it up to the digital age. They will monitor the consumption of your area and advise you when to do certain things in your home to save cash! They should be a change in the way the power is delivered to your area so if there is a problem, they can reroute the current so your electric won't go out! I think it will save the people billions of dollars once it's in place! tdemex
• United States
28 Oct 09
I am not sure maybe it will as long as they do not want each person to pay more to get it going..if so that will not help but take. depends..as far as electric going out we was without elctic for 2 weeks before they could fixit during the ice storm. depends on your area and if people at the companys also keep up the customer service to a good rate.
@gtargirl (5376)
• United States
28 Oct 09
It's working for us already. We don't have the washer and dryer set but apparently everything else is in place. Our monthly electricity bill is around $40 or so. Our house is a two-story, six bedroom, three bath house and we're doing good on this program. Maybe we're the test community. For all our success we got 4lbs of Sees chocolates. LOL. yummmm. Do we like it? Yeah, so far.
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@tdemex (3540)
• United States
28 Oct 09
No this is far more than that! This will bring the grid of the whole country up to the 21st century, it's over 100 years old! They compare it to the internet as to how it will affect everyone! When your power goes out now, they don't even know it, until someone calls and tells them! Really! This will change everything and make it more local for your community or city. I just touched on the basics but there is far more to it! I'd did more research on this last night and was blown away how this will affect everyone! Check it out if your interested in this kinda stuff! tdemex
@Rtlsnk316 (1197)
• Mexico
27 Oct 09
Cool, I couldn't say right now, the idea is good but if it works as you mentioned or as I understood, let's say some appliances will work controlled by the energy company, will this mean that they will command when or at what time can I dry my socks or something like that? I bet the concept it's a little more accurate than what I understood, just kidding about the socks also.
@tdemex (3540)
• United States
27 Oct 09
No your right I have some questions also, like the toaster? LOL! But they said like powering down the electric hot water heaters at night, my ex father in law used to that and saved some cash on his bill, now they will do it for you if you opt in on that feature! They have it pretty figured out to not inconvenience people! you can also over ride the system for certain things! I personally think it's great! tdemex
@jesssp (2712)
• Canada
27 Oct 09
I'm all for saving energy and reducing my costs but I am not interested in having someone else controlling my appliances! But I live in Canada so this really doesn't apply to me anyway. My dishwasher and washing machine do have timers though, so I could set them to start at the most cost efficient time if it did apply. Our company has a tiered system for electricity consumption. If you go past a certain amount it will start to cost you more. Our bill has never made it past the first tier so we've always paid the lowest rate.
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@tdemex (3540)
• United States
28 Oct 09
Well be prepared this is much more than what you have now! It's not just the appliances in your home it's how the juice gets delivered! Most grids now are old, and this is a move forward to accept the green energy that gets made, monitoring your area for shut downs so it can be rerouted quickly! It's a move forward and Canada is part of the grid of the USA! tdemex
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
27 Oct 09
Hi td, well it won't be coming here that's for sure, the electric company can't even manage the supply they've already got properly without trying to be clever and adding new features. You've no idea at all have you how difficult it is to get an electric meter installed in the first place.
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@tdemex (3540)
• United States
27 Oct 09
I hear ya! I've been reading about your complaints on some of your comments and posts! But never give up hope! We'll share the technology with our friends first, and the spies of our enemies will steal it! So everyone will get it eventually! Keep the faith! T----
@marguicha (213312)
• Chile
27 Oct 09
I live in Chile and we all have electric meter in our homes. I opted for a "clever" one: it has 3 price ranges depending on the hour. I put to work the dishwasher and the washing machine at the lowest rate. My electricity bill went down. I imagine that if the rest of the world can have new meters, the US can do it too
@marguicha (213312)
• Chile
27 Oct 09
Hi gringo! I opted last year for a new device to measure how much electricity I use and at what time. I have to start my appliances at the low cost hour myself. I usually do it. With the dishwasher is easy but sometimes I´m in a hurry to wash clothes. My electricity bill went down and I´m very happy.I don´t mind starting the appliances when the rest of the world is asleep because at that time I´m here at mylot. As for the clothes dryer, I haven´t used it in years. I don´t even know if it still works. I sun dry my clothes in summer and dry them in my bathroom in hanger in winter. Usually the next day they are dry or almost. My house has no central heating or AC but I don´t need it. Our climate is mild. I don´t use my iron either: now with manmade fibers I don´t think it´s worth it. I hope countries and companies do something about saving. Many of the things we use in excess will not be here for the next generation. Take care!
@tdemex (3540)
• United States
28 Oct 09
Holla! This is far more advanced than anything anywhere in the world. I didn't go in to all the advancements that will come from this! I read a lot more about this after I posted the discussion and it is amazing! It's more geared to the grid itself! They're taking it digital! Bringing it up to the green standard where we can actually use our own solar and wind generators to help our own area and save the community cash! It's a great read if your interested in this stuff! LOL! Later and thanks! T----
• United States
28 Oct 09
I guess I would have to do more investigation to figure out whether or not I would do it, but my initial response is "no". I want my things to run when I want them to not when the electric company wants them to. I am all for saving money, but I don't think this would be for me. I am a stay-at-home mom, and I run things when it is convenient for me and when it fits into my schedule. On the other hand, if I was working outside the house and could set up the washer in the morning and have it run during the day when I wasn't home, then I don't think that I would have as much issue with it. I guess it depends on scheduling and how much control we are allowed to have versus how much control the electric company has.
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@tdemex (3540)
• United States
28 Oct 09
The main thing is the up grade of the grid, and making it smart! the issue of controlling your appliances is strictly voluntary, at least for now, but it will save you cash. Something like the electric company turning off your electric hot water heater at 10pm and turning it back on at 5am wouldn't hurt most people! there are many benefits to this new technology you'll learn more about it in the coming months I'm sure! tdemex
@mrfdg1972 (3237)
• Philippines
27 Oct 09
Sir i would take that if it was offered here in my country. Philippines
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@tdemex (3540)
• United States
27 Oct 09
I'm sure any country would! The USA will be leading the world again in to the future! This can do a great thing for the world, and save a lot of energy for everyone! Obama does it again! Well be back in the drivers seat soon! tdemex
@mrfdg1972 (3237)
• Philippines
27 Oct 09
USA in not in the driver seat, Sir you and USA is in the PILOT SEAT. just dont forget to take us when you lift off. USA has been helping our country for as long as i can remember. Whenever something bad happens here, in the Philippines, USA always lends a hand.